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Hello OldSage, In Matt.24:15 Jesus quoted Daniel 9:27. From that time until the destruction of the temple there was no fulfillment of a seven year covenant being made and therefore no abomination set up in the holy place within the temple. Therefore, the prophecy regarding that last seven years...

Matthew 25:46 Revised Standard Version 46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” "Jesus will act as judge over believers and unbelievers. At the Bema Seat of Christ, He will judge believers’ works after salvation to determine reward or loss of...

You just ignored everything that I said to you. Pay attention! As I said, we are not misapplying what Jesus said regarding John 16:13. By your claim, you would be saying that the word of God is only applicable to those who were present to hear it. According to you then, the letters to the seven...

You are correct in that, as we go from faith to faith we are being transformed into the image of the Lord, which is the process of sanctification i.e. being made holy. However, what you are claiming above is absurd! Think about it: you'd be saying that anyone who works in any of those venues and...

Matthew 24:29-31 is referring to when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age and has nothing to do with the event of the church being gathered. It is because you have made these two events as being the same that you err. And you err even more so by not believing in a literal thousand...

Hello TheLearner, The Lord told the apostles His words while being in their presence, where everyone afterwards read those same words. So, we are not misapplying the text when we say that the scripture is indeed to everyone. As we study the word of God, He brings to our remembrance all of those...

"When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst. Jesus was speaking of himself as being in their...

Pretty difficult for them to make it an allegory when we have historical proof of the literal restoring and rebuilding of Israel and the Messiah being cut off. As I said earlier, I'm bettin' that since the first to stages of that prophecy was fulfilled literally, then I'm 100% sure that the last...

What Nehemiah said is all correct. It is the same conclusion that I have garnered from my studies.

I beg to differ with you glenn55! We know from a historical and Biblical accounts, that the prophecy of the seven 'sevens' (49 years) was fulfilled We also know that the Anointed One was cut off (Christ crucified) at the end of the sixty two sevens for a total of 483 years. I'm bettin' that...

I wholeheartedly disagree with you here Dino! For the decree is specifically upon Daniel's people (Israel) and their holy city (Jerusalem). "Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and your holy city" At the end of 69 seventy year periods (483 years), Christ was cut off/crucified. At that...

On your PC, while you are reading this post, if you scroll all the way up to the top and look above the first post and to the right, in dark gray, you will see "New Christian Chat Members." click on that and follow the instructions. Not sure about the cell phone version.

This is the same thing that I have continued to proclaim to them in that, believers are not appointed to suffer any of God's wrath, neither the condemnation in the lake of fire nor God's wrath that is coming upon this earth after the church is gathered. Their answer is to move the wrath of God...

Hello AandW, I like their root beer by the way. Likewise, I have not in the last 45 years believed in a mid or post tribulation gathering of the church. The error here is not understanding who the group is in Rev.20:4-6 who are being resurrected. The other problem with a post tribulation...

This is where your error is. Where a seven headed dragon is obvious symbolism, the literal number of 144,000 Israelites is not, but a symbolic meaning is forced upon it. The fact that the number is broken down into 12,000 per tribe also supports a literal interpretation. It is the same with the...

The fact that the number is stated as being 144,000 and is broken down by 12,000 per tribe, demonstrates that it is a literal number and they are literal Israelites. There is nothing in the context that would lead the reader to seek out a symbolic meaning to either of these, but must be assumed...

Actually, the Christians within the church will have already been removed from the earth prior to God's wrath. Therefore, the nations that will be no christian nations left. There will however be those who become believers in Christ after the church has been gathered and during God's wrath...

I have often wondered the same thing in regards to the cleansing of this present earth in preparation for the thousand year reign of Christ. For during the tribulation period, the seas and fresh water will have been turned into literal blood, there will be dead bodies everywhere, the cities of...

Here are some of the problems that I find with the belief that the new heaven, new earth and new Jerusalem begins after the Lord returns to the earth to end the age and at the onset of the thousand year reign of Christ: 1). Then I saw a great white throne and the One seated on it. Heaven and...

Hi Nehemiah6! I completely agree with this order, which has been my own conclusion and is the chronological order found in Revelation. There are numerous problems with the idea that the new heaven, earth and Jerusalem begin at the onset of the millennial kingdom, some of which I have mentioned...