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  1. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I agree that it is not happening in your narrow frame of reference. I guess that the people in Jesus' home town didn't see any miracles in their little town, while many miracles were taking place elsewhere. The reason why they didn't see any miracles, and it is the same in your church, is...
  2. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Paul says that the preaching of the Gospel is foolishness to the Greeks. He is talking about philosophers like Aristotle and Plato. According to Aristotle's "reason" the preaching of the Cross and resurrection is foolishness.
  3. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Which shows that you know nothing about real Pentecostals.
  4. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I have read a whole series of booklets containing witness testimonies of miraculous healing from one end of New Zealand to the other through the ministry of a well known healing evangelist. These are testimonies supported by medical evidence that will stand up in court of law. I have a DVD...
  5. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    As was said in a recent post: the miracles reported in the Bible cannot be verified today because all the witnesses died 2000 years ago, and yet most Christians believe they took place. And yet, when modern miracles are attested through medical records and scores of witnesses, cessationists...
  6. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Why? Google is a good research tool to find that information for yourself if you really want to find out.
  7. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    No. I am saying that you cannot say definitely that they are not happening, because you don't have enough knowledge about what is actually happening around the world. It was like my mother sitting in her lounge and giving her view about something the city council has done. She would say...
  8. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    For interest sake, just let me know this: If the whole of knowledge about what is going on in churches and missions around the world was in the form of a pizza, and your knowledge amounted to a slice of that pizza, how big would that slice be? I would very much doubt that your slice of the...
  9. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    By the way, there is a book called "Surprised By the Power Of The Spirit" by Jack Deere. He was an avowed Cessationist Bible teacher who ended up becoming a continuist. You may not agree with his conclusions, but you might find it interesting to read about his journey from one to another...
  10. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I have never seen you as the enemy. When I was with Christianforums.com, I had years of debates with two guys, Swordsman1 and Major1 who were avowed Cessationists. I came to enjoy my debates with them, and I missed them when they were absent from a debate, and when they popped up, it was very...
  11. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The strength of these forums is that readers get to see many sides of the same argument instead of just one. The "jury" is the general reader who gets to decide which side of the argument is appropriate for them. I'm never offended by people disagreeing with me. I find the debates...
  12. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    You and I and others have given Biblically correct answers to cessationism all the way through this thread. I have come to the conclusion that those who don't agree with the answers we've provided won't believe it, rather than they cannot believe the answers we are giving. What this means is...
  13. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Oh, come on! You didn't read my post. I said that the Word of God as inspired in the original Hebrew and Greek Scriptures is perfect, because it was directly inspired by the Holy Spirit to those who wrote it all down. But the written copies we have are not perfect. But they can be totally...
  14. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    According to what Paul said in Galatians 3 about receiving the Spirit when they were converted to Christ, and what he said to the Ephesian disciples, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" it is clearly implied that Paul believed that the baptism with the Spirit happened at...
  15. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    What I see in 1 Corinthians 14 is that Paul said, "I thank god I speak in tongues more than you all, yet in the church, I would rather speak five words in language that is understood (my paraphrase). And he also says: "I would that you all spoke in tongues." Now, if Paul spoke in tongues more...
  16. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Very true. Cessationists use the canon of written Scripture to prove their point concerning 1 Corinthians 13:8. I fully believe that the Word of God is entirely perfect, and Paul had that perfect Word of God that was taught to Him by the Holy Spirit when he wrote 1 Corinthians. This is why I...
  17. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I want to make the point that the "perfect" Scriptures are the Greek and Hebrew originals penned by the actual authors. What we have are copies and translations which are by no means absolutely perfect. Even the KJV which is view as "God breathed" by some, was translated from the Latin...
  18. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    It is interesting that cessationists rubbish Pentecostals and Charismaitcs, but I haven't been an integral part of the Pentecostal or Charismatic movement since 1978, and yet I still pray in tongues and pray for sick people when I get an opportunity. It is because I could see no reason to stop...
  19. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The problem with that theory is that signs and wonders accompanying the preaching of the Gospel is part and parcel of the "perfect" Scriptures. The "perfect" Scriptures quote Jesus as saying that He will send the Comforter (the Holy Spirit) Who will represent Him and remain with them until the...