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  1. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    There is only one Gospel and that is the Gospel based on Christ crucified and resurrected. Any other Gospel is about another Jesus and not the Jesus of the New Testament.
  2. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I hold to 1 Corinthians 14 as the standard. I just don't care about how Pentecostals, Charismatics decide to use their own standard. I also don't care about cessationist Evangelicals who ignore 1 Corinthians 14 altogether. I have studied 1 Corinthians 14, and know it is just as applicable to...
  3. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    If you read the whole book of 1 Corinthians, you will see that Paul does not see them as totally carnal Christians as you suppose. Actually, a carnal Christian is not Christian at all, because he loves the world, and therefore the love of God is not in him. Paul says that they come in no way...
  4. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Salvation has requirements. One must believe the true Gospel of Christ, and put total faith and trust in the finished work of Christ on the Cross. The Scripture says that it those who persevere to the end are the ones who will be saved. Although the gifts and calling of God are without...
  5. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    And church history gives the real reasons why the gifts dried up and declined. It was the church departed from God's standards for what the church should be, and so the Holy Spirit stopped supporting it, and for over 1000 years it became an idolatrous cult full of paganised ceremonies and...
  6. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The gifts of the Spirit are not for the possession of individuals. They are supplied to the body of Christ and the Holy Spirit divides the gifts among the members of the body of Christ as He wills, not as we think we should. Paul teaches that we must follow love and desire spiritual gifts...
  7. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Yes, of course. But the gifts of the Spirit are not separate from the Holy Spirit Himself. Therefore if the Holy Spirit is not present, then the gifts are not either. They are gifts for sure, but only available to those who have their faith in Christ alone, are totally loyal to the truth of...
  8. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    That's man's wisdom, not God's truth. God's truth is based on clear Scripture evidence. There is none to show that the sign gifts were temporary and limited to the 1st Century.
  9. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The transformation of heart and life that comes through the baptism with the Spirit is proof of genuine conversion to Christ, before any gift, including tongues is manifested. If a person does not show through his life and conduct that he is filled with the Spirit, he cannot prove that he is...
  10. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Churches based on man's wisdom, which most are, will never see it manifested. True tongues is based in God's Word, not man's wisdom; and according to man's wisdom it is foolishness along with the rest of the Gospel of Christ.
  11. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Before 1901, every genuine convert to Christ was baptised with the Spirit, but they didn't know that they could manifest the gifts until it started to happen at the turn of the 20th Century.
  12. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    As someone who was converted in a Pentecostal church in the late 1960s and has retained Pentecostal theology ever since, even though I left the movement in 1978, after close study of the New Testament, I have cone to the conclusion that when a person receives Christ as Saviour, baptism with the...
  13. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit ended when the church changed from basing their foundation on the Word of God and the leading of the Spirit to the foundation of man's wisdom, authority and programming. And while large sections of the Evangelical and Charismatic church remain that way...
  14. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The problem is the elephant in the room that many professing Christians ignore. The church in general is nothing like the 1st Century church. Paul told the Corinthians that he did not come with the enticing words of man's wisdom but with the demonstration of the Spirit and power. Today's...
  15. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Who said we should place our faith in miracles? Faith comes by hearing the Word of God. It all depends on one's definition of "miracles". The New Birth is a miracle. Answered prayer is a miracle. Being able to understand and believe the Gospel is a miracle. Being healed of a terminal disease...
  16. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    An amazing testimony. He is not limited in how He provides for our needs. When I finished university and teachers college I had no savings, so I never had any hope of owning my own home or having a reliable motor vehicle when I started my teaching career. Then I met the person who has been...
  17. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    My "household" if you want to call it is a small church with six elderly ladies and one gentleman. It it not Charismatic, and I would guess that the ladies wouldn't know what the word actually means! So who says that the baptism with the Spirit is a 2nd blessing? Not the Bible unless you can...
  18. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Here is the full context of the phrase you quoted: "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards...
  19. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The Holy Spirit uses all sorts of ways to bring a person to faith in Christ. I didn't need to see any miracles to make me believe the Gospel. I just knew that I needed to get right with God and when I was shown the Gospel Scriptures I believed them and received Christ as my Saviour. People...
  20. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    He showed me that He doesn't always have to give me a hand-out when I need money. If I have skills and am available to get a job and work for my living, He will provide one. Of course, now that I am retired and live on superannuation, I guess I get a hand-out from the Government every...