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  1. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    If you can't show me a clear thread of Scripture that shows that the supernatural signs and wonders were not meant to accompany the preaching of the gospel right through to the end of the church age, which is still in the future, then your argument has no foundation. By the way, Catholics can...
  2. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    This is the teaching of Aristotle, the pagan Greek philosopher, which is the basis of modern science. I think there is a greater faith in Aristotle and Plato in your church than there is in the Word of God, even though you assert that you have faith in the unseen God of the Bible. But the same...
  3. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The belief that this is no longer the day of miracles comes from the philosophy of Aristotle, the pagan Greek, who said that if it can't be shown through empirical evidence then it is not real. This is the basis of modern science, and has also corrupted many branches of modern theology...
  4. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    You are correct. There is no teaching in the New Testament supporting tongues being the initial evidence of the baptism with the Spirit. That doctrine that some Pentecostal churches hold comes from the three examines shown in the book of Acts where tongues accompanied the baptism with the...
  5. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    If it a fact according to God's Word that the supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit were not meant to continue through to day, then show me a clear thread of Scripture that supports that 'fact'.
  6. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Yep. I think we have done the topic to death now.
  7. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    It appears that Jesus' commission to go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature, applies only to the Apostles, including Paul, but not to you or anyone else who subscribes to your view of the Gospel. It makes me wonder what you do preach, if at all.
  8. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Reading the Bible instead of giving your mans-wisdom opinions brings you closer to the truth. I don't know what Gospel you believe in or what Christ you follow but I don't believe it is the Gospel of Christ, or the Christ of the Bible. Maybe it is the Gospel and Christ of your own...
  9. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    In Acts 4, the Apostles prayed that they may speak the Word of God with boldness and that signs and wonders be done in the name of Jesus Christ. It says that they went out and preached the Word with signs and wonders following. Also, miracles were an integral part of Paul's ministry to the...
  10. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    If Paul got his Gospel from the Holy Spirit, then it came from the same Person whom the Holy Spirit represented as the Gospel of the Kingdom. Because the Holy Spirit doesn't contradict Jesus, then the Gospel that Jesus taught has to be exactly the same as what Paul preached. (Just to be...
  11. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Seeing someone trying to scrape the bottom of the ideas barrel to try and disprove the modern application of the gift of tongues is such a bore that I can't be bothered commenting any further on it.
  12. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Your last sentence is absolutely true. In Romans, Paul says that the Mosaic Law is true and holy, and the failure of it to make people righteous was not because of the Law itself. It was because of the sinfulness of man that he could not keep the Law. I separate the Jewish ceremonial laws...
  13. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    It is true that all through the centuries there were those who were genuine believers who gave lip service to Rome but put their faith in Christ. We know about the ones who were more vocal in their faith and trust in Christ and most of them ended their lives being burned at the stake. Foxe's...
  14. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The principle is still the same. Jesus said that anyone who puts his hand to the plough and then looking back is not fit for the kingdom of God. Paul says that we are in a race and those who get to the finish line get the prize. A person who says that the has "Jesus in his heart" and is...
  15. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    If a person says he is a born-again Christian and still practicing sin and iniquity as a lifestyle, then he is deceiving himself. The fruit of being genuinely converted to Christ shows in the transformed life. Just joining a church, praying a short 'sinners' prayer, putting on the Sunday suit...
  16. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    As I said, there is no such person as a carnal believer. Either the person is a born again, transformed, genuinely converted believer, or he still an unbeliever still in his sins. Everyone of us has faults and failings, therefore any "holier than thou' pelican can accuse any of us in his...
  17. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    He is talking to the church as a whole and not to them as individual believers. A church can be carnal, such as one that is riddled with cessationism, denominational party spirit, and ceremonies and wisdom of man, but to accuse a person of being carnal is to accuse him of not being born again...
  18. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I don't see any difference between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of Christ. There is only one faith and one baptism. The Gospel that Paul preached is exactly the same as the one Jesus taught. Actually I don't see how this is significant to the issue of cessationism or continuance.