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Christ's destiny was not the Cross. The Cross was God's purpose in salvation for men. Christ's destiny is to rule all things. The Lord may well have purpose in our own suffering but it is never our destiny. I think you need to rethink your understanding.

My view is that God is responsible for our salvation. Your inability to comprehend that man can use his will freely once God has supplied the grace needed for that to happen and enables him to see the truth and uses His power to ensure the sin nature does not control his thinking while the...

Scripture also confirms that when God speaks there are those who hear and listen and even though they are not in a position to do anything about their bondage to sin, it does not mean they are not willing to live for God. Romans 7 makes it very clear that Paul understood the position of man was...

He blinds them to the truth after showing them the truth. When men are charged under sin apart from grace they are indeed in a hopeless position, hence the ministry of the Spirit to convict of sin, righteousness and judgement. Once a person is made aware of their need, then they are ready to...

How can one choose to reject what they cannot see? If God does not show them, it is the Lord who is at fault. But we are shown in Romans 1 that God does indeed make them see, yet there are some who reject Him outright, long before the Gospel even has a chance to be presented.

No-one argues God chose us. He chose us to conform to His Son. He chose us to be adopted as His children. He chose us to have eternal life. What He did not choose was who would believe His word as true. He extended His grace to ensure we could make that decision of our own will, not His. If...

If they are regenerated they are already alive and saved from death and don't need the Gospel.

Predestination is based on God's foreknowledge. Ergo, He knew us before He decided on our destiny. Romans 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Maybe you should .... "hasten the day". ;)

So you're saying God created a destiny before He saw the saved. He would have looked silly if it turned out no-one believed Him.

I think you have that back to front. There can be no word of pre-destination without salvation first. If one doesn't believe and receive God's salvation they are not pre-destined to be adopted or placed into Christ or given to mature and become like Christ. Pre-destination belongs only to...

I see. You respond to the poster with scripture completely out of context from what he was saying but I'm the one who needs to reread. Sure. ;) I'm not sure doing something twice is actually considered a habit either but you have a nice day anyway.

But no-one ever said it wasn't God who made the difference and it was made quite clear the worthiness comes about in us because of Christ so why you had to disagree with something that was never spoken or implied makes me wonder why you even bothered saying anything in the first place? What God...

Context. Luke 17:9 Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not. Do we thank ourselves for being new creatures in Christ? I think not and nor has anyone said so.

ROFL Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment. They said the same thing about Jesus. :D

I know but she has a habit of taking things personally and then blaming others for her misunderstandings.

BTW Thank you for realising I'm a she and not a he. :)

Yes we would, they would just be different troubles. ;) John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

What position is that? Beneath you? You can continue playing the victim if you want but it's all there in black and white and you will answer for every word. Bye. <wave>