Predestination is misunderstood...
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Exegesis of the term...
"Total Depravity."
Logical conclusion?
There is nothing to save!!!!!!!
Our soul God created.
But, the body is what Adam caused to happen to become depraved.
Our soul was born trapped inside a malfunctioning body that will sin instinctively.
He is not the overseer of our bodies.
Our body is the natural habitat of the sin nature. Our sin nature that causes us problems, making us unable to serve God in righteousness unless the Holy Spirit is controlling our body to free our soul.
When the Holy Spirit controls our body our soul is freed up to make right choices that must be based upon
sound doctrinal thinking. We must have accurate understanding in order to walk as Jesus did...
That is why Satan encourages the advancement of the cheap junk food pastors who appeal to man's subjective emotions
rather than obedience to sound doctrinal teaching that requires we must transform away from the natural trends of our flesh.
Its our bodies where depravity lives in us by default. That is why God saved our soul, but will throw away our old bodies
into his divine trash heap when we physically die.
Our soul inside a crucified body that requires walking in the Spirit to function in a way that our body will conform to faith
(faith = the word of God that we believe) by means of the power of God's grace!
In Christ.....
"Total Depravity."
Logical conclusion?
There is nothing to save!!!!!!!
Our soul God created.
But, the body is what Adam caused to happen to become depraved.
Our soul was born trapped inside a malfunctioning body that will sin instinctively.
For “you were like sheep going astray,” but now you have returned
to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls." 1 Peter 2:25
He is not the overseer of our bodies.
Our body is the natural habitat of the sin nature. Our sin nature that causes us problems, making us unable to serve God in righteousness unless the Holy Spirit is controlling our body to free our soul.
When the Holy Spirit controls our body our soul is freed up to make right choices that must be based upon
sound doctrinal thinking. We must have accurate understanding in order to walk as Jesus did...
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone,
but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Mat 4:4
That is why Satan encourages the advancement of the cheap junk food pastors who appeal to man's subjective emotions
rather than obedience to sound doctrinal teaching that requires we must transform away from the natural trends of our flesh.
Its our bodies where depravity lives in us by default. That is why God saved our soul, but will throw away our old bodies
into his divine trash heap when we physically die.
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.
The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me
and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
What is to be living by faith is our soul.Our soul inside a crucified body that requires walking in the Spirit to function in a way that our body will conform to faith
(faith = the word of God that we believe) by means of the power of God's grace!
In Christ.....
Huh? The Gospel is Christ died for our sin and rose again. The good news is Christ did what we can't do, ie. be sinless (wholly righteous) and satisfy God's justice. He is the way to salvation. If you believe the Gospel you are saved. Regeneration (new birth) is your first step in that salvation. (Although, personally I believe regeneration and faith occur simultaneously)
You keep wanting people to be spiritually alive (saved from death) before giving them the Gospel which is the power of God to salvation. It's what we call "preaching to the choir". Once you are made spiritually alive, you are saved, you don't need to be saved again. You don't get born spiritually twice.
You keep wanting people to be spiritually alive (saved from death) before giving them the Gospel which is the power of God to salvation. It's what we call "preaching to the choir". Once you are made spiritually alive, you are saved, you don't need to be saved again. You don't get born spiritually twice.
You are functioning just like a Catholic who will not budge when it comes to praying to Mary and the saints.
Its the same stubborn energy of the flesh getting its way as opposed to the Word of God.
You simply want what you want. And, believe God agrees with you.......
Because? Your god is your emotions....
Paul was brought to tears over your way of thinking.
"Whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly [emotions] , and whose glory
is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things." Philippians 3:19
Your kind of stubbornness is nothing new....
Tongues people are the same way, just a different vice.
God sovereignly made me say that......
grace and peace ...............
Its the same stubborn energy of the flesh getting its way as opposed to the Word of God.
You simply want what you want. And, believe God agrees with you.......
Because? Your god is your emotions....
Paul was brought to tears over your way of thinking.
"Whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly [emotions] , and whose glory
is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things." Philippians 3:19
Your kind of stubbornness is nothing new....
Tongues people are the same way, just a different vice.
God sovereignly made me say that......
grace and peace ...............
I've already said God foreknew those He predestined. God saw himself in relationship with believers long before any of us were born and He determined to save believers and give them a destiny.
You're the one off tangent. You are confusing the journey with the destination. You quoted Acts 2:23 where Peter is telling people it was God's purpose for Christ to die based on His foreknowledge. First off, the Cross is not Christ's destiny is was a part of His journey toward His destiny and it was a part of His journey on our behalf. If in God's foreknowledge, He saw no believers, there would be no need for the Cross.
God decided on the destiny of those whom He foreknew. He didn't decide on a destiny and then "look around" to see who He could fit into it.
You're the one off tangent. You are confusing the journey with the destination. You quoted Acts 2:23 where Peter is telling people it was God's purpose for Christ to die based on His foreknowledge. First off, the Cross is not Christ's destiny is was a part of His journey toward His destiny and it was a part of His journey on our behalf. If in God's foreknowledge, He saw no believers, there would be no need for the Cross.
God decided on the destiny of those whom He foreknew. He didn't decide on a destiny and then "look around" to see who He could fit into it.
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