Predestination is misunderstood...

[Thunderrr-mental]

Do you know what love is? Specifically when we speak of God's love. And don't just say you know, tell us what love means, how it is applied and works out in life.

Your in no position to ask me what love is, with all your insults and your unwillingness to put them right when shown.

Would God carry on loving you for eternity when you where dead in trespasses if you never repented.

 

[HeIsHere]

Look, I'm not the one with a problem here. @Genez tried to explain to you that unworthiness is a thing of the past and you responded with your catty remark of:



... when you had misunderstood what he was saying to you. I tried to explain you misunderstood and all I got back from you was more catty hiss, hiss, hiss.

Go do your spraying somewhere else because I'm putting you on ignore.

If the term "unmerited favor" for grace had not been invented by Spurgeon we would not have all these troubles.

 

[HeIsHere]

Your in no position to ask me what love is, with all your insults and your unwillingness to put them right when shown.

Would God carry on loving you for eternity when you where dead in trespasses if you never repented.

Eternity is not time, the term actually refers to a quality of life.
God does not exist in time.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

There is nothing wrong with being firm iften times in this day and age people grew up in their beliefs they don't know any better Jesus was firm but the sarcasm and any kind of mockery is what is needed to be gotten rid of. you can be firm make them feel that conviction but any mockery any sarcasms anything other than how Jesus did it will only stoke the fire it basically deludes the truth you were trying to speak

Plenty try to justify how the act and speak they try to justify the debates as speaking truth but we have seen the results the peacekeepers the ones who show his love not giving into the tempation of responding in an unloving masnner those are the ones who may be few but they create a curiosity.

Remember how you said you wondered how one who was attacked and mocked yet was still a blessing? you spoke the answer and yes it won't be easy anyone going on this path most likely will not be recieved but for the few it es reach that is how we make the change

this place has a I am right you are wrong mentallity but it is how we respond it is the heart they see that will make the difference.

Being firm is required but if we add any ill will in it then it only causes more strife and trust me I by no means have any room to talk I am still lrarning and growing in this but the point of it all is to bring to body together as a wjole to change how we thought we knew and understaood but it is going to require us to really look at ourselves see and understand where we act according to the world and the generally way we respond compared to how many others on here do.

And granted I cannot see well I often times mix what people say compared to others and in this regard I have more than once lost dear friends because of this I can only hope that the spirit speaks to the spirit that my intentions can be known and heard not my words as they cannot always be taken as they are

But I came back on here to bring unity to hope that his love would wash over all in this forum and I cannot do it on my own I understand I am washed up by many on here but only love only understanding only responding in kindness and peace will make the fires of this place calm down no sarcasm no mocking or name calling be firm but be firm in in the truth

no problem buddy, but I don't know what part you've come into this thread,.

But right throughout certain people haven't answered a a question with out escalating trouble first,

When asked a question they have proceeded to throw cheap remarks over and over again until you respond in away they have a reason to pull you down down.

Further more buddy I'm dealing with hardened indoctrinated people here and hardened Calvinists, also buddy I'm dealing with teachers of hyper grace taking Gods love for granted

 

[sawdust]

Your in no position to ask me what love is, with all your insults and your unwillingness to put them right when shown.

Would God carry on loving you for eternity when you where dead in trespasses if you never repented.

What position is that? Beneath you?

You can continue playing the victim if you want but it's all there in black and white and you will answer for every word.

Bye. <wave>

 

[sawdust]

If the term "unmerited favor" for grace had not been invented by Spurgeon we would not have all these troubles.

Yes we would, they would just be different troubles.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Eternity is not time, the term actually refers to a quality of life.
God does not exist in time.

eternity is for ever when God saves you.

If he doesn't save you for ever one day the soul is no more it perishes.

The wages for sin is death.

Now will you answer what is deserving of God love for you

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yes we would, they would just be different troubles.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

I'm still waiting you to answer the original question

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

What position is that? Beneath you?

You can continue playing the victim if you want but it's all there in black and white and you will answer for every word.

Bye. <wave>

I don't play the victim, you play the victimizer

I'm still waiting you for to answer the original question

 

[sawdust]

If the term "unmerited favor" for grace had not been invented by Spurgeon we would not have all these troubles.

BTW Thank you for realising I'm a she and not a he.

 

[HeIsHere]

Now will you answer what is deserving of God love for you

I already told you I do not know.

 

[Charlie_2024]

Nope that's not what they did, they did something else

OK, it sounds like you poses the truth but your hiding it from the rest of. Are we unworthy to be enlightened by your wisdom?

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

OK, it sounds like you poses the truth but your hiding it from the rest of. Are we unworthy to be enlightened by your wisdom?

nope the answer is there.

I'm not hiding anything.

I have my reasons for waiting for somebody to make the suggestion.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

OK, it sounds like you poses the truth but your hiding it from the rest of. Are we unworthy to be enlightened by your wisdom?

the hint to the answer is 😊

What Is the missing word here

Jesus is the way the life and the -----

 

[Genez]

You can pretend you are worthy and deserving if you like. Scripture says only One is.

I know it is not you.

You are not pretending as God walks you into maturity..... That requires sound teaching on a steady basis, not just
hearing motivational, devotional messages.

I am not claiming that I am innately worthy.

God's grace will transform those who are truly growing in grace and sound doctrine into someone God makes to be worthy
of what He seeks in believers....

He does the work of making us to become worthy....

 

[Genez]

Stop with your foolish pedantry! Just state what you think and stop pretending that you know more than anyone else. You clearly don't.

"Pedantry." Good choice of words!

ped·ant·ry
/ˈped(ə)ntrē/
noun

..... excessive concern with minor details and rules.

 

[Eli1]

From an administrative perspective ThunderMental generates a lot of traffic and mindless banter which is good for the site and the unsuspecting user.
From a personal perspective he’s a boring meme now.

 

[Magenta]

You are not pretending as God walks you into maturity..... That requires sound teaching on a steady basis, not just
hearing motivational, devotional messages.

I am not claiming that I am innately worthy.

God's grace will transform those who are truly growing in grace and sound doctrine into someone God makes to be worthy
of what He seeks in believers....

He does the work of making us to become worthy....

I put on the righteousness of Christ. It is nothing like the wallpaper you have imagined.
Whatever diet you are on, motivational teachers, and whatnot? Not for me. I don't have
to be more like you or anybody else for God to love me unconditionally.

 

[Genez]

I think you are missing his point Magenta. You are not worthy in your fallen state but to call yourself unworthy once you are in Christ is an insult to God because he has made you worthy through the virtue of His Son. You are now to identify with the Son, we have been made one with Him. When you don't see the Son in yourself, you are not pleasing God, it is a false humility.

I spent the first half of my life being made to feel guilty whether I was or not. I know how difficult it can be to come out of that mindset of constant condemnation but the Lord is patient and kind and will lead you into His contentment if you learn His word and apply it. Do not hang your head but lift it up and see the great salvation we have in the Lord.

Romans 8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,

I can recall when I was in Bible college. While at a public function that was open to all, one of the students talking with an elderly Jewish couple embarrassed me.

He was telling them what a worthless person he was and the Lord saved him....

That is not what I call giving them the "Good News."

 

[Genez]

I put on the righteousness of Christ. It is nothing like the wallpaper you have imagined.
Whatever diet you are on, motivational teachers, and whatnot? Not for me. I don't have
to be more like you or anybody else for God to love me unconditionally.

How do you do that?

How do you put on the Righteousness of Christ?

Not saying it can not be done.
Just want to know what it is, as you see it to be...