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  1. Cameron143

    How did they?

    Sure, but not as a nation, but as individuals.
  2. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    There you go again. If you mean by me and a few of my homies a number that no man can number, then yes. How many stars are there? How about grains of sand?
  3. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    What a goof reply. I didn't say God made it impossible. I just showed how God, in fact, made it possible.
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    Understanding God’s election

    If it requires illumination, and the Spirit is doing the illumination, God is already at work before faith is evidenced. And if everyone who doesn't believe thinks the gospel is foolishness, then those who do come to believe must first have been unenlightened or they would have already believed.
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    Understanding God’s election

    What is the power of God there? How is the word of God the power of God? Who is exercising the power?
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    Understanding God’s election

    The illuminating power of the word of is the Spirit. We are born again by water and the Spirit. The Spirit is pretty easy. Water there is the word of God according to 1 Peter 1:23. Jesus is the word and the Spirit is the spirit of Christ.
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    Understanding God’s election

    That doesn't answer my question. Yes or no will do.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I didn't say they can't understand the gospel. They know full well what the gospel is saying and the implications for themselves. They simply reject it because to them it is foolishness. If they could discern it spiritually, this would not be their response.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Do you believe that because God requires love from us in our dealings with Him and others that He must always manifest love?
  10. Cameron143

    How did they?

    Same way you do...faith. Jesus said Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and saw it and was glad. To be absent of the body has always meant to be present with the Lord. Salvation has always been by grace through faith. We are fortunate to have a fuller understanding given the completion of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Sure. Is their purpose found in their destruction?
  12. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

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  13. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    That's a good start. Keep going. You might put it all together.
  14. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    A disconnect of both your making. No one has said we shouldn't love all people. No one knows who will be saved and who will not. Neither has anyone made the case that the great commission should not be followed.
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    Understanding God’s election

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    Understanding God’s election

    If it is true that He who begins a good work in us will continue that work in us until the day of Jesus Christ as Philippians 1:6 says, it must be God and not me who ensures my perseverance. If that is indeed the case as I believe it is, all those verses you shared must be reconciled to this...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Try to follow the bouncing ball... Christ is the firstborn of many brethren. He is the first of His kind. The new creation is in Him, as those who are in Adam are part of the old creation. Perhaps consider what that infers of the new heaven and new earth.
  18. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    You fancy yourself a teacher yet can't even plainly state your understanding or comprehend the arguments others are making and respond accordingly. And while further study is good advice, perhaps you should follow your own advice.
  19. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    First tell me how in dead soil thorns can grow.
  20. Cameron143

    Understanding God’s election

    Election isn't selection. It's not about choosing between different things already existing. It about choosing to create something entirely new.