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    God's Love and Our Love

    patient, kind, not jealous, not vain, not arrogant or rude, not enjoying evil, rejoicing over the truth, bearing everything, always believing, always hoping, always enduring, this never fails.
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    We might get that sense from Corinthians, but not from Genesis 2:6-8. here, it is explicit, there was no man, then God formed Adam, a single man, the first one
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-are-plant-food-sources-vitamin-b12 up for lunch consideration are yeast, mushrooms, algae.. vegetarianism is completely respectable and even laudable IMO. just not commanded/required of us. so - - nothing to judge anyone over, one way or the other, in my view...
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    for wool, i would think, and for a yearly memorial sacrifice commemorating the blood shed to pardon Adam and his wife, when God made them garments. Adam was given every green thing: it's not until Noah God tells us meat is okay to eat. proto-Pesach, if you will ;) probably becomes a sticking...
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    Christ isn't called the last human, but Adam is called the first man. 1Cor. 15:47 puts that succinctly
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    no. Adam was given only plants. Noah was given everything. Moses was given a division between clean and unclean meat. Christ declared all food clean according to the faith and resultant conscience of the eater. we are back to the state of the diet of Noah, but in the resurrection there will be...
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    Does God typically use lies and deceit and false doctrine in a parable? does He violate His own holy nature and command us to sin in visions? the same topic comes up in the beggar Lazarus - whether it is a parable or not - because Christ talks about the dead being able to speak and sense and...
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    Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

    that conclusion comes from finding evidence of cities later than finding evidence of people. so the logic goes that you can't build cities if you live by chasing prey around the countryside, and of course you're going to form a commercial economy and cities as soon as you can, that is, as soon...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    So @PaulThomson and @Dino246, and at @SonJudgment, and @everyone else reading ((but these are my good friends)).... what i think is going on here with this crazy turn of phrase is that Arius was right citing scripture that says Christ is begotten, and probably brought up all these things we've...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    @SonJudgment -no offense here: we are all just talking! my understanding of what i have read, is that everyone who believes Jesus is officially a saint. :)
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    Do you believe I will never be of God's elect if I don't worship your view of God?

    in my life i've talked with thousands of people. i have no idea how many of them i actually know. my guess is maybe 3 to 6 even this feels optimistic, and 60% of my guess refers to cats, not humans.
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    Do you believe I will never be of God's elect if I don't worship your view of God?

    perfect; thanks. His words are Spirit, and life what are yours? what are mine? what are theirs? so, given the nature of words - understanding that Babel is a real event - is patience and mercy required to speak to another human? or to say another way: is it well that we interact with others...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    doesn't seem to be a universal stance but personally given the history i am very hesitant to argue with the Nicene creed. i suppose y'all have been able to guess from my conversation, yes the text is weird and messy in some places - bafflegab even, justifiably called @Dino246, ((banapple gas...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    @PaulThomson Ran out of time didn't realize i was editing, sorry... partial repost: Sure, Christ the Son is sent by the godhead - Genesis 19:24, Exodus 23:20, Matthew 15:24, John 17:18, etc and the Spirit is sent by the godhead - Psalm 104:30, John 14:26, 16:7, etc but where is the Father...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    Sure, Christ the Son is sent by the godhead - Genesis 19:24, Exodus 23:20, Matthew 15:24, John 17:18, etc and the Spirit is sent by the godhead - Psalm 104:30, John 14:26, 16:7, etc but where is the Father proceeding from the Son?
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    The Father is not described as 'proceeding from' or 'sent from' the Son, but the Son reveals Him.
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    well i don't really have a better way to say He is never not God and He is never not the Son of God in only two words lol i imagine the term 'begotten' was used here because of the Arian side of the argument, which claimed that because He was begotten - we see that term in scripture - He had a...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    i agree it's messy language, but we should view it in the context it originated in. it has to do with whether the substance of the person of Christ is exactly the same substance of God - that He is, in essence, God, equal to God, of the same essence as God. in that sense 'begotten' in the same...
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    What is the proof Jesus is eternally begotten son?

    it's in the Nicene Creed. Athanasius coined it ((probably)) in argument with the Arians, who believed there was a time when Christ did not exist - that He is a created being. this was the primary thing the Nicene council met to settle - whether the Son is co-eternal with the Father or whether...