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  1. posthuman

    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    personally, i think you need to re-read this book... Then Job answered the Lord, and said, I know that Thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from Thee. Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too...
  2. posthuman

    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    chapter and verse, please? Naked came I out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. (Job 1:21)
  3. posthuman

    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    the context in which it opens, that frames the whole story, is all of the angels presenting themselves before the LORD on His throne. it's there, with all the angels present, that God makes Satan confess he has been on earth, roaming it, and calls his attention to Job, saying he is blameless and...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    um, no... you're mistaken, let me repost for you: Job 1:9-12 So Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    hahaha the OP seems to think it was God who did Job harm as a punisment for Jobs sin??? weird to start a thread about Job and not even know the basics of the storyline - surely he just forgot - so i was reminding him. @tttallison TLDR: Job was not being judged for unrighteousness. what you...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    current thinking is that the moon appears to have been formed from material ejected from the earth 3-4 billion years ago, forming in an orbit about 1/8 the distance it is now. the earth and moon effect each other tidally, slowing the earth's spin and extending the radius of the moons orbit. this...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    it's not true that population growth rate has been steady for the time we have records, and it's nonsense to believe it was steady before we had records either. population growth is tied to resources, birth rate, infant mortality and life expectancy; it can't be extrapolated back linearly. it...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    not factual. the oldest pyramids that still exist were built ~ 2600BC. the oldest human monolithic construction known appear to date from ~ 9600BC. Chinese history and solid archeological evidence goes back to about 1600 BC. The oldest temples in India are from only about 600BC. The oldest...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    that's very bad science right there. physical models extrapolating to the distant past actually put a day at about 18-19hrs 4 billion years ago. you have to take the position of the moon into account, which appears to have been formed around 4.5 billion years ago, and has been drifting away from...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    maybe it's been a while since you've read Job; you must have forgotten the account.. Job 1:9-12 So Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    The noun איבה ('eba), meaning enmity occurs a mere four times in the Bible, but perhaps most notably in God's decree to the serpent: "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel" (Genesis...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    from what i am reading, that is inaccurate. Job may mean 'water carrier' or, stretching the theme, 'he who weeps' it is also related to 'father' and the stem for 'persecuted' or 'one with whom there is enmity' even 'enmity' is not equivalent to 'hated' looking into your claim, it's...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    the destruction of Jerusalem and the captivity of Israel was a judgement for sin. the troubles of Job are emphatically not in judgement of Job's sin. that's kind of the whole theme; dunno if you've read it? so, this is a very flimsy argument on your part, and has essentially no weight. just...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    this is honestly a really flimsy argument. you might as well claim Revelation was written in the 6th century BC since it has to do with Israel and prophecies made around that time.
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    the Law was not till hundreds of years after Abraham. it's pretty strange for someone to worship the God of Jacob and talk about doing so for 40 chapters, yet pretend the whole time there is no such thing as Jacob... if it is in a time period after Jacob. but not at all, if it is long before...
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    James 2:14-26, A verse by verse study

    yes For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. (Philippians 2:13) it is God doing the work in us who are in The Way -- both to will, and also to do therefore there can be no boasting, not of our will, nor of our works -- because it by His grace and by His...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    there is no record of the king of babylon having prolonged discussions about sin, righteousness, and the requirements of God from man. but Nebuchadnezzar does not give indication that he is saved until the end of Daniel 4, when he recognizes that YHVH is the only true God. before this while he...
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    if they worship the God of the Hebrews in the days of the Law they would be proselyte. so is your suggestion that the God of the book of Job isn't the same God of Jacob?
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    typo i didn't catch - many of the words are like Hebrew but aren't spelled the same, and many others are not Hebrew at all.
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    Why the story of Job occurred in the 6th century.

    the relative similarity of some lamenting phrases in the two books could be explained by Job being a more ancient text, that Jeremiah was familiar with. there is also a phrase or two in Isaiah that is similar: it doesn't mean they were written concurrently, nor that Job quotes Isaiah; it could...