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WEll, don't forget these verses: Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. Joh 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath...

Right, and I've used this example before about aliens. IF you believe that aliens exist, and believed this for 50 years, but then all of a sudden someone comes out and has proved they don't exist.... and you tell yourself, well, I guess I was wrong. Then you truly had never believed they...

Essentially, our faith in Christ produces fruit. Ultimately people need to understand what work is to begin with. It's not something you can just google and get mans understanding of. This is our work, straight from the Word: Joh 6:28 They said therefore unto him, 'What may we do that we...

That's the issue with most. The look at Gods word as a "Contract"... something one must fulfill in order to receive what's in the contract. God doesn't work like man and we cannot compare Him to man. God has given us a COVENANT, and that covenant cannot ever be broken. As long as one sees it...

Let's also look at the verse before: 1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: Sadly, many of us are running with uncertainty and insecurity. Will I make it? Will I finish? Not Paul. He ran with certainty and purpose. Many Christians are...

1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 1Co 9:21...

What's also interesting is that if one believes that these verses address believers who have backslidden, then they can't get re saved. We know the ONLY unpardonable sin is to reject the Holy Spirit... To reject Christ. So this alone should make anyone that believes these are saved people...

Heh, I think I hit his ignore list yesterday. Kinda funny to be honest. If they truly wanted to "expose" us false teachers, then they would continue to 'expose' us :) May God shed light and truth on them anyway. God bless you too brother.

And stopping believing is just that. I believe there's a God. I believe there was a man named Jesus. I actually believe the word is a good instruction manual for walking a good life. Please refer to my lengthy post about the parable if you will. Would love to know what you view is on it...

Hmmmmm.... Show me that those verses refer to a saved person? Enlightened: To bring to light. Hey man, you need Jesus. I do? Yup... you're now enlightened. Tasted: To experience. You took a bite of that pie? Yup? Can you still taste that Pie 7 hours later? Nope! Well, at least you...

I agree, as to why we should read the Word of God and make sure we are not one of the first three hearts in the parable of the sower. Only one produces faith, and many think they are saved, but they are not.

Yeah, the name calling is childish. I think most people, if not all I've read the last few days have been civil and quite patient myself. Not directed at any one person. Just noticed some like to try and entice argument above and beyond scripture.

Angels didn't have the blood of Christ now did they? lol! Some of the examples people come up with. They really have to stretch things eh?

Soil this and soil that. Wayside.. This is the dirt that is not the actual PATH and it's not the actual FIELD. It's between the path and the field. Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was...

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy...

And again, you fail to highlight KNOW God and KNOWN by God... ALL the children of Israel were KNOWN by God... ALL sinners are KNOWN by God... But not ALL people are saved that are KNOWN by God, and not all people that KNOW God are saved. And don't forget to add the next scripture there...

Good night PS, may your rest strengthen your body, spirit, mind, and soul in Christ Jesus.

Really? Shame shame... putting a word in there that isn't now? Where does it say the word SAVING knowledge in there. Let me read it again to make sure I read you right.... 2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus...

And how am I wrong about knowledge? You know it's wrong to steal? You know it's wrong to commit adultery? Do you have to be saved to know that? So, guess what? Having this knowledge and abiding by it, you have escaped some the corrupting forces of the world. And ya know? You don't even...

Heh, give me two shovels so that I can dig quicker.... I'm actually ready to be with Jesus anytime He wants to take me home :)