Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

Nope - it is "OF" not "IN" -the faith part of the verse is in the genitive, indicating ownership. The part of the verse that says
"believed in Christ', is not to demonstrate the distinction.

This verse confirms that:

[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

And do you know who else can be born from above, be Jesus' brother, and be Jesus' friend?

Correct, it is, imho, bad works to keep trying to "bash them them over the head"
with The Bible, thus, after the "good works" of "planting and watering," then God Commands:

Rom 16:17 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."

Would the Unfruitful discussion then "be ended"? But still "pray for them"?
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Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!

The fact of God's LOVE for the world, LOVE for the ungodly, LOVE for sinners has been demonstrated to all of creation in the sacrifice of the only and beloved Son of God at the cross. This magnificent demonstration will be sung about in praises by angels, the host of heaven, and Saints, and be acknowledged by Satan, demons and damned souls of men......perpetually forever and ever.

This vast, unparalleled, never to be repeated demonstration of loving grace and mercy has settled FOR ALL ETERNITY the question of whether God is a God of love or a cruel despot.

The crucifixion also refutes and settles, once and for all, this very same slander that Satan has propagated since the fall: that God is NOT a God of love but a hateful cruel King. A slander that continues to this present day.

I wonder....does @rogerg realize that he is approving, agreeing with and propagating the slander of Satan against the Father? For he is declaring that God HATES the ungodly and HATES the sinner and HATES the world.

Somebody inform this person of their woeful folly.

We wouldn't agree on everything, but: Many on the internet, through their deep study come to the conclusion people will be condemned to hell for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth(John10:29,John14:28&John17:3) All that time studying has led them to absurd beliefs. When I tell people in churches what often gets stated on the internet, they shake their heads in bewilderment, and that includes ministers

Then they can never be made alive. They will remain dead in their sin.

Because we are justified through faith. We are saved by grace through faith.

if one can not have faith WHILE dead to repent of their sins. Then no one can be saved.

We wouldn't agree on everything, but: Many on the internet, through their deep study come to the conclusion people will be condemned to hell for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth(John10:29,John14:28&John17:3) All that time studying has led them to absurd beliefs. When I tell people in churches what often gets stated on the internet, they shake their heads in bewilderment, and that includes ministers

No. We are justified through Christ's faith not ours. You are correct in that no one can have faith while
dead, and that was exactly my point. So, to have faith, one must first be given spiritual life which can only
be as a byproduct of salvation - that it is from salvation, it is not to salvation.
That is why we say that God has chosen only the elect for salvation - because they are only ones that He makes spiritually alive.

[Luk 1:77 KJV] 77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Faith of is misreading

Christ is God.. the righteousness which is OG God BY FATH shows who has the faith

Faith is not an action verb, I do not faith God. I have faith IN GOD.’

I don't follow what you're saying.
For the verb form, you believe(ing) in Christ
The faith of Christ is the noun- but it IS His faith, not man's.
Faith "of" shows ownership - genitive.

We are justified when we trust (faith) him.. Not when he trusts us.

People trust themselves to do right, to do works, or to not fall away. All in their power..

Thats why the tax collector got on his knees, because he STOPPED trusting self. And placed his faith in God

again, Faith is not a action word. It can not save you. What faith does is empower us to call out to jesus. Empower us to work the works of God.. But it is not work itself.

if I am saved by Christs faith I do not need to repent or have faith. Since I was born after Christ’s death I would be saved already

I didn't say "when He trusts us" - not even close. Can't see how you got to that from what I said.
Maybe I didn't state it well enough, but that was not my point.

We are justified not by anything that we do but by the faith OF Christ.

[Gal 2:16 KJV] 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Not in their power until saved. Until then, dead in sin.

Doing so meant that he HAD already become saved. Our faith is not what saves us, instead it comes from salvation.
There is absolutely nothing that a man can do that will/can cause him to be saved.

Repentance comes only with salvation. It is not the cause of salvation. It is given.

[2Ti 2:25 KJV] 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

This passage is a death blow to OSAS.

you do not get it. This makes no sense. Christ’s faith on the cross paid for my salvation, but it does not make me saved..

Your dead in sin until you are justified

we are justified by faith.. by trusting Christ, not ourselves

Again this makes no sense

The bible tells us to repent if we want to see God..

apposing yourself and recieveing christ is the defenition of repentance

You will never have faith in CHrist until you repent. Until then, you will reject in unbelief

It should be where all believers are concerned. However, I've come to learn on the internet, any plain bible verse can be overturned if necessary to fit in with a persons particular views

His entire ministry did - at least for those so chosen for it. At certain times throughout their lives, they become born again.

Not possible while dead spiritually. What do you think dead spiritually, means? It is that being dead, they are spiritually oblivious to it,

and therefore, completely incapable of changing that.

[1Co 2:13-14 KJV]
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

It does. It means that everything pertaining to salvation is given from salvation as a free gift, with nothing left for the person
to do for it. That is why the Bible calls it a free gift, otherwise, it wouldn't and couldn't be. That is what makes Christ the Saviour,
and not man.

[Rom 5:18 KJV] 18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

Correct, and there are two points that may solve all the Confusion:

1) God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided - ie:

God’s Context Of ‘prophecy/covenants/law’ program:

• TWELVE Apostles (Mat. 10:2; Luk 6:13, 22:14;

• gospel of the kingdom (Mat. 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14-15)

• Commission (Mat. 28:19-20)

"faith WITHOUT works is dead" to The Twelve tribes
(James 1:1, 2:17,20,26) ►►► NO osas in view ◄◄◄

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

God’s Other Context Of GRACE / Mystery Program Has Its Own:

• Apostle (Rom. 11:13; 1 Tim. 2:7)

• Gospel Of GRACE (1 Cor. 15:3-4; Eph. 2:8-9)

• Commission (2 Cor. 5:14-21; Eph. 3:9) To "The Body Of Christ!":

"Grace Through faith," Apart From ALL [man's] works, To Eternal Life!
(Eph 2:8-9; Rom 3:24, 4:5; Tit 3:5-7; Now God's OPERATION 1Co 12:13)

►►► OSAS In view ◄◄◄:

2) 144 Plain and Clear Passages For God's Eternal Life, According to
The Revelation Of The Mystery, That no one can overturn:

God's OPERATION On all HIS New-born babes In Christ
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God's Eternal Assurance
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Conclusion: TWO Different programs are Not the same;
Never Mix them Up in Confusion (Romans_11:6), Correct?

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Precious friend(s):

Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!