Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked
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Christ claimed that He was God incarnate.
[Phl 2:6-7 KJV]
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[Heb 1:1-4 KJV]
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, ...
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
[Heb 1:7-8 KJV]
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
[Jhn 17:5 KJV]
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
[Phl 2:6-7 KJV]
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[Heb 1:1-4 KJV]
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, ...
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
[Heb 1:7-8 KJV]
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
[Jhn 17:5 KJV]
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
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Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus was in the "form" of God, not that he is God.
As human, you and I are also in God's image. We're in the form of God in a sense.
That doesn't say Jesus is God.
You should understand it like this:
1 Corinthians 8
6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist.
This is quoted from Psalm 45:6-7 where it's talking about a human king being referred to as a god. This human king in Psalm 45 isn't Lord God Almighty. This is evident from the next verse in Hebrews 1 where it says that this person's God has anointed him above his companions only because he loved righteousness and hated wickedness. That implies this person is lesser than God, has human companions, and was anointed conditionally.
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.”
Sharing God's glory doesn't make someone God. This is obvious in verse 22 where the human disciples were given the same glory Jesus had.
John 17
22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one—
As human, you and I are also in God's image. We're in the form of God in a sense.
That doesn't say Jesus is God.
You should understand it like this:
1 Corinthians 8
6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist.
This is quoted from Psalm 45:6-7 where it's talking about a human king being referred to as a god. This human king in Psalm 45 isn't Lord God Almighty. This is evident from the next verse in Hebrews 1 where it says that this person's God has anointed him above his companions only because he loved righteousness and hated wickedness. That implies this person is lesser than God, has human companions, and was anointed conditionally.
9You have loved righteousness
and hated wickedness;
therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
above Your companions with the oil of joy.”
Sharing God's glory doesn't make someone God. This is obvious in verse 22 where the human disciples were given the same glory Jesus had.
John 17
22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one—
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The verse says in the greek Panton Anthropos (all mankind, all humankind, all in the world)
It is pretty specific. It can not be mistranslated or twisted to say anything else
as for other places in scripture
John 3. Jesus did not come to judge the world but that the world may be saved.
he died for the world
whoever believes will not perish but have life eternal (they will live this new life forever)
It is pretty specific. It can not be mistranslated or twisted to say anything else
as for other places in scripture
John 3. Jesus did not come to judge the world but that the world may be saved.
he died for the world
whoever believes will not perish but have life eternal (they will live this new life forever)
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Who said jesus saves all? Being the SAVIOR of all and SAVING all is not the same
I can be the savior of all. But it does not mean ALL will be saved.
The fact is, it says he came to save all. But who is saved?
Whoever BELIEVES is not condemned
Whoever DOES NOT BELIEVE is condemned already!!
Thats why God will not be mocked or seen as an evil God. Because his salvation was enough for those lost. And COULD have saved them
They did not want it..
I can be the savior of all. But it does not mean ALL will be saved.
The fact is, it says he came to save all. But who is saved?
Whoever BELIEVES is not condemned
Whoever DOES NOT BELIEVE is condemned already!!
Thats why God will not be mocked or seen as an evil God. Because his salvation was enough for those lost. And COULD have saved them
They did not want it..
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No, there are two different glories in John 17 - the glory the Lord has had with the LORD from the beginning, and the glory given to the Son of Man.
He speaks of taking up again the glory He set aside to become a man, and of glorifying the apostles with the glory He wore as a man.
c.f.e. 1 Corinthians 15:40-41 with Philippians 2 & John 1 in mind.
He speaks of taking up again the glory He set aside to become a man, and of glorifying the apostles with the glory He wore as a man.
c.f.e. 1 Corinthians 15:40-41 with Philippians 2 & John 1 in mind.