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Riven said:
Why? Would you really love someone who'd ultimately hurt you if you didn't?
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God does not require us to love Him, only to be sorry for our sins and trust in the shed blood of Jesus to cover them. Jesus dying on the cross for our sins was an act of love but it is up to the individual to reciprocate that love. God will certainly not hurt you because you don't love Him. Hurting yourself by denying the love of God is on you and not God.
 
Riven

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theanointedwinner said:
I want you to believe that God is listening when you say these words "God, I'm not perfect, forgive my imperfections, thank you, and help me believe"
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Slooow down, breathe, in & out. The light is always going to be there, no matter what we believe.
 
Riven

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theanointedwinner said:
Better question, how can Jesus love anyone who tortured him on the cross, and forgive those who tortured him, how is that possible?

This ability to love, you are not able to love like that, yet he is able to love like that.
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Indeed I am, since I was tortured by my fellow human beings far longer that Jesus.
 
PennEd

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Riven said:
Why? Would you really love someone who'd ultimately hurt you if you didn't?
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Yes. If that person had died for me? Yes. I'd absolutely love them.

Jesus offers you the cure for your eternal condition. How is it His fault if YOU refuse the cure, and instead choose to be separated from Him for all eternity? We have no capacity to understand what that means. YOU choose to be separated from Him, AND everything He created for you to enjoy.

So you can be eternally grateful that He loves you so much He suffered and died to pay YOUR sin debt, or you can refuse Him and be forever without Him and HIS Goodness.
 
CharliRenee

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Regardless if you believe or accept, it won't change His truth. It is Him you will be facing, none of us. Again, I reccomend that you take it up with the One you are condemning. He is the Only one that can keep you from being condemned. He loves you that much. You get to make make that choice, receive Him or reject, that is on you. He will show you the path of life, in His presence is fullness of joy, and at His right hand there are pleasures forevermore.
 
Riven

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I can not keep up with all these conflicting responses, please go in prayer and consult your Spirit, then return here as one unified body and one message.
 
PennEd

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Riven said:
I can not keep up with all these conflicting responses, please go in prayer and consult your Spirit, then return here as one unified body and one message.
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What is the point of starting an account here, announcing you can’t love Jesus, and saying insulting things?
Either you are bored, you wish to convert others to not love Jesus, or you inwardly desperately want us to convince you that you are wrong.

We can only give you the Gospel. Until you are born again you cannot understand anything else Spiritually. You are Spiritually discerned.
 
Riven

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For all you people know, I could have the true God of life living inside myself. Who has had just about enough of watching his own creation believing lies.
 
Waggles

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Riven said:
For all you people know, I could have the true God of life living inside myself. Who has had just about enough of watching his own creation believing lies.
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OK prove to us all that you have the true God living inside you?
The scriptures tell us clearly what the evidence is for such a claim.
Do you have this?
 
Riven

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PennEd said:
Yes. If that person had died for me? Yes. I'd absolutely love them.

Jesus offers you the cure for your eternal condition. How is it His fault if YOU refuse the cure, and instead choose to be separated from Him for all eternity? We have no capacity to understand what that means. YOU choose to be separated from Him, AND everything He created for you to enjoy.

So you can be eternally grateful that He loves you so much He suffered and died to pay YOUR sin debt, or you can refuse Him and be forever without Him and HIS Goodness.
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Something none of you have observed, or proven unequivocally.
 
Riven

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CharliRenee said:
I will pray that His Love and mercy are revealed to You. He will not be mocked, and He loves you very much. I recommend you ask for true faith, that He come and dwell within, realizing you need Him, giving your life to Him. I think it important to realize our ways are not His and leaning on your own understanding, on any man's understanding of Him is futile. Take it up with Him, He is the ONLY way, the truth and the life.
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I hope you are young lady, because I could see you & me K.I.S.S.I.N.G in the garden of Eden.
 
Riven

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Waggles said:
OK prove to us all that you have the true God living inside you?
The scriptures tell us clearly what the evidence is for such a claim.
Do you have this?
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You don't need proof, you need to believe.
 
Waggles

Waggles

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Riven said:
You don't need proof, you need to believe.
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What rubbish baloney is this ?
This is not the scriptures. This is not what true worshippers would say.
Either you can measure yourself against the scriptures and find yourself compliant and in accord. or you cannot.
You obviously cannot.
Jesus and the Apostles taught that there would be evidence to show unequivocally when and how believers would become
real Christians.

So offer your evidence in accord with the scriptures, if you can.
 
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