Never Believe

Coming to an end of yourself, can be the state of utter sinfulness, very uncomfortable, can be paralyzing, if you are lucky, there will be a part of you that think "seek God" or something like that, and if that can be recognized, to pursue that initiative

Or, being so immersed in that initiative, that it can be pursued toward God

Scoffers, I'm warning you, please head my warning, why do you ignore my warning, I don't want you to go down that path,

I'm warning you, please head my warning, why do you ignore my warning, I don't want you to go down that path,

And repeat!

Ah fair point...havent thought of it this way before sure Christ suffered but can it be called torture when he was ready and willing? I believe the term the OP is looking for is Martyr.

The OP's gone. He couldn't stand to hear everyone evangelizing to him. He never understood the great commission and said he wanted to kill christians to magenta before he left. So long and bye bye Riven.

Ah...rather ironic since his whole OP speal was not being cool with suffering of another but trolls seldom come here too make sense

For when I am weak, then I am strong. (2 Cor 12:10)

Therefore, we are unbeatable only because God is unbeatable

Then why aren't you accepting you are wrong?
If belief in His sacrifice for our sin is wrong, then why is your BELIEF that it is sadistic not also wrong?

the saved had more spiritual privilege and benefit than the unsaved

may this provoke the envy toward salvation of others - Romans 11:14

and God can use this envy to draw them

Because jesus died for us?

If you saw a bullet flying at a loved one (especially if you have a child), wouldn't you jump in front of it?

So that's God...jumping in front of the bullet.

Either choose Jesus or go to hell

You don't like the word hell, yet when Jesus died in the cross for your sins, Jesus even said "father, why did you abandon me" Jesus was near death, it felt like God abandoned him, so Jesus experienced fear of hell

Jesus was willing to go through fears of hell for you

Either be born again or don't be physically born in the first place

here is the "shock vision" method of coming to the end of yourself

in the shock vision, there is only one door remaining, it doesn't matter what the door look like, but it's hovering over the atmosphere that is colored red, all you see is shades of red and black

and everything is fast forwarded toward the day of your death, are you willing to give up this and that for the sake of salvation, for the sake of "becoming saved"

everything is fast-forwarded "to the end of yourself"

I believe that's the Lordship's definition of coming to the end of yourself