Word usage changes over time.
You are making a mistake if you wish to appeal to most people when witnessing.
Look at this link to find out what most normal people will think when you speak to them...
Loss of salvation???
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Word usage changes over time.
You are making a mistake if you wish to appeal to most people when witnessing.
Look at this link to find out what most normal people will think when you speak to them...
I often wondered what manner of pastor he gets his teaching from. Whoever that woman is, she must be a real piece of work to spew that much nonsensical stuff.
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He does not need a pastor for what he does....
That is why we are commanded: Test the Spirits.
Some channel a spirit.
Whom they claim is the Holy Spirit.
Demons are very sneaky. They can influence you into thinking you are doing the right thing but it leads to compromise and ultimately destruction.
A good example is in Acts 16:16-19. The slave girl was speaking the truth, but if Paul had commended her words he would have found himself in agreement with a demon. Not a good place to be. It is not enough simply for something to have the "ring of truth", it's source must be considered as well, for only then can the truth be understood within in it's proper context.
my 5c worth.
Demons are very sneaky. They can influence you into thinking you are doing the right thing but it leads to compromise and ultimately destruction.
A good example is in Acts 16:16-19. The slave girl was speaking the truth, but if Paul had commended her words he would have found himself in agreement with a demon. Not a good place to be. It is not enough simply for something to have the "ring of truth", it's source must be considered as well, for only then can the truth be understood within in it's proper context.
my 5c worth.
That is why our only shield is learning and knowing more and more sound doctrine.
For demons know how to make sense to the ignorant.
Strang how the music master guy talks about me behind my back but has me on ignore so I can't reply to him??
Hey music master guy, YOU TALKING TO ME??? OR ABOUT ME?????
Since the music mater guy has me on ignore will you tell him for me if he wants to talk about me to be man enough to adress me, thank you.
I understand why you don't like what I say.
What kind of pastor do I need one like you?
You like talking to others about other people also, isn't that gosip?
And it's me who has to do a spirit check right?
To you post #5306
Peter and I forgot that JESUS doen't baptize in water but with the Holy Ghost???
HIS WORD IS CLEAR HIS disciples did the baptizing in water, NO ONE ever said JESUS did!!!
What you will NOT ACCEPT is there are two different things.
1. Being baptized in JESUS name washes away our sins, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS filling us with HIS spirit.
2. JESUS filling us with the Holy Ghost HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH removing our sins!!!!
Need BOTH TO ENTER, John 3:5
post #5312
You say JESUS filled you with living waters HOW DO YOU KNOW???
JESUS SAID,
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Phillip KNEW THEY DIDN'T GET THE HOLY GHOST HOW, HOW did Phillip know they didn't??????
SO HAVE YOU GOT THE HOLY GHOST? Since I asked you and with your reply I WILL SAY NO YOU HAVE NOT am I wrong?
post #5313
You accept the trintiy which is NOT BIBLE and you will NOT accept what the bible says on how to be reborn.
So you acccept what man say, and reject what JESUS says!!!!
Post #5314
I can see you point about the need to understand why we need to be baptized if we don't what good is it?
I sure do love the fact that you are seeking but when you say he baptized you with HIS spirit how do you know?
You next statement clears that up, you say the sinfull you died HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IF YOU DID NOT GET RID OF YOUR SINS ACCORDING TO HIS WORD??
Why do you say I have a one-eye slant on scripture when all I do is share scripture in it's proper context? If you accept how we get rid of our sins you would accept the scripture I share.
It's you that can not see that we need to get rid of our sins and we need JESUS to fill us with HIS sprit!!
LOL, then you say "To be baptized in the name of Jesus is to be baptized into the person of Christ. No amount of H2O can do that, only the Living Water who is the Spirit which, is why Christ baptizes with the Spirit"
The first part is right, when we are baptized in the name of JESUS we are baptized into his death or HIM.
The second part, you removed the water??? And then add the spirit again.
The real problem is you need to sperate them.
JESUS does,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Peter does,
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
In every case of being reborn Acts 8, 10 and 19 BOTH BAPTIZED IN WATER AND JESUS FILLING THEM WITH THE HOLY GHOST WAS PRESENT, BOTH.
post #5315
If you brain wan't stuck in the desert you would see it for sure is refering to water.
post # 5316
What do you think "Baptism doth also now save us" mean?
And you say I don't understand basic Christian understanding???
I think I adress all of your post.
I will end it with this, Satans plan, keep them out of the water, if they get in the water keep JESUS name out of it (the trinity).
Satan knows what happens in the water!!
Yes, spiritual narcissism and erroneous doctrine have increased in general in western society and it certainly is reflected on discussion boards.
1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So words change?
How often?
Who are you to tell me I'm making a mistake?
GREAT IDEA if you see me saying something wrong about HIS word then adress it.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE what HIS word says, your problem is between you and JESUS not me.
So just tell me what your problem is with me and explain why!!!
I have been thinking about this, and it seems to me that while God can use hyperboles like the "cattle on a thousand hills", in cases of prophetic words literal terms reveal God's transcendence and divine wisdom unlike the ambivalent allegorized interpretations often used to interpret the writings of Nostradamos.
According to the Bible, the Babylonian captivity lasted for seventy years. This duration is referenced in several biblical texts, including the writings of Jeremiah and the historical accounts in the books of Chronicles and Daniel. In Jeremiah 25:11-12, the prophet declares, "This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years. But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt, declares the Lord, and will make it desolate forever." This prophecy showed the exiles that God had a plan that even accounted for their failures as a nation . Jeremiah 29:10 reiterates this time frame, offering a message of hope in dire circumstances: "This is what the Lord says: 'When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.'"
The prophet Daniel did not view the numbers used in scripture as general ideas nor did he view them as merely allegorical:
2in the first year of his Darius' reign, I, Daniel, understood from the sacred books, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.c 3 So I turned my attention to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and petition, with fasting, sackcloth, and ashes (Daniel 9:2-3)
Learning and knowing "sound doctrine" does not automatically immunize any of us from Satan's attacks. The Reformers studied the scriptures extensively. However, their knowledge and learning did not stop them from killing thousands of Anabaptists when they got into power.
Wasn't 70 weeks determined upon God's people. Was that a literal 70 weeks? You seem to pick and choose what is literal and what isn't. God spoke to Daniel and revealed the 70 years. Where else does He explain numbers?
Yes, spiritual narcissism and erroneous doctrine have increased in general in western society and it certainly is reflected on discussion boards.
"spiritual narcissism" wow, yes I see that is a entire different level of narcissism beyond the psychological archetype
Many can be part of that crowd>>>
the I am sinless people
the salvation is not secure but precarious, Christ Jesus did not finish the work, I must hold on tight and succeed where Jesus failed.
the I never abuse grace, I keep the commandments people so I can save myself
the look at me I have special gifts people
lest I forget, the I was created and chosen for salvation people and all others were created for damnation
If you were man enough you would put down your macho flesh and allow the Word of God to correct you.
Nothing is behind your back. For all can read what was said.
You are on Ignore because the Lord wants you to know what it is like, what you do,
Because, you IGNORE His Word... and stick to a poor translation to misrepresent Him.
'Pneuma' means "spirit." Not a ghost.
Ghost sounds moronic to many in our day and age.
And, God does not want you sounding stupid to others when you speak of Him.
It gives them an excuse that some are looking for.
Thinking that Christianity is only for the low IQ people.
Christianity when in the Spirit transforms our way of thinking.
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived
that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished.
And they recognized that they had been with Jesus." Acts 4:13
To taking your logic to its full extent?
This is how you would sound!
I say then: Walk in the Ghost, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16
For as many as are led by the Ghost of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:14
We are all brothers.
Brothers should be honest with one another.
Bluntness is sometimes needed when one brother is being stubborn and damaging to our family name.
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