Loss of salvation???

[Genez]

So you have been baptized, got it.

Why?

Then we can talk about the other thing we need to be reborn, the Holy Ghost.

The Bible in the Greek does not use the word"ghost."
It is pneuma = Spirit.

In Greek, the word for ghost is "σκιά" (skia), which translates to "shade." ​

This term refers to the spirit or ghost of a dead person, often associated ​

with the underworld in mythology.​

Pleased...
Stop sounding ignorant. Because that is how it sounds to many wishing to look in upon Christianity.

Link....

Why the Holy Spirit Is Not Casper the Friendly Ghost

Learn the way to present Christ honorably!

 

[Genez]

Just remember the definition of narcissism, and everything falls into place.

MM

The more he confesses his nonsense, the higher it piles up in the garbage can he hides within.

When it piles up and gets high enough?
It will begin to cover his mouth.

Then no one will bother to listen to him anymore...
And those who would still want to team up with him will share in the stench.

Just keep him making stuff up!

 

[Genez]

Like John, my fellowship is with Christ in the Spirit to the glory of God.

Again, grace and peace.

Here is YOU!

This saying is trustworthy:

For if we have died with Him,
we will also live with Him;
if we endure, we will also reign with Him;
if we deny Him, He will also deny us;
if we are faithless, He remains faithful,
for He cannot deny Himself.

2 Timothy 2:11-13



To deny the Word, is to deny the Lord!
You deny what the Word says?
You will be denied before Him.
You will have nothing to show for your walk with God.

You will be a pee-on in God's Kingdom where others will
have crowns and share in God's glory!

BUT!
You will be saved!

If we are faithless, He remains faithful,
for He cannot deny Himself.

Why are you throwing eternal life away?
Not clever. You are stupid and only to be pitied.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but whoever hates correction is stupid.

Proverbs 12:1​

 

[Cameron143]

Here is YOU!

This saying is trustworthy:

For if we have died with Him,
we will also live with Him;
if we endure, we will also reign with Him;
if we deny Him, He will also deny us;
if we are faithless, He remains faithful,
for He cannot deny Himself.

2 Timothy 2:11-13



To deny the Word, is to deny the Lord!
You deny what the Word says?
You will be denied before Him.
You will have nothing to show for your walk with God.

You will be a pee-on in God's Kingdom where others will
have crowns and share in God's glory!

BUT!
You will be saved!

If we are faithless, He remains faithful,
for He cannot deny Himself.

Why are you throwing eternal life away?
Not clever. You are stupid and only to be pitied.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but whoever hates correction is stupid.

Proverbs 12:1​

Careful. You may have just written your own epitath.

 

[Genez]

Careful. You may have just written your own epitath.

Jung was a pastor's son from a family of theologians.​

 

[HeIsHere]

Just remember the definition of narcissism, and everything falls into place.

MM

Yes, it is asserted that narcissism is on the increase in general western society, I think the increase is also reflected on discussion boards.
Narcissism and erroneous doctrine, regarding how one is delivered and spiritually saved, is a very, very bad combination.
Erroneous soteriology is often the epicenter of a cult.

 

[Cameron143]

Jung was a pastor's son from a family of theologians.​

Romans 2:1-3.

 

[Sipsey]

Are there real peopole here?

It’s best to just monitor and read a little bore jumping in. There are some ownderful, mature Christians on this site. There are also a lot of immature saints with a few cult members mixed in.

 

[Ouch]

The Bible in the Greek does not use the word"ghost."
It is pneuma = Spirit.

In Greek, the word for ghost is "σκιά" (skia), which translates to "shade." ​

This term refers to the spirit or ghost of a dead person, often associated ​

with the underworld in mythology.​

Pleased...
Stop sounding ignorant. Because that is how it sounds to many wishing to look in upon Christianity.

Link....

Why the Holy Spirit Is Not Casper the Friendly Ghost

Learn the way to present Christ honorably!

FYI, Holy Ghost is in GOD'S word 90 times.

Holy Spirit 7.

Is it ok with you if I just share HIS word with the words in it?

I don't add my opinion to HIS word, or take other men's opinion over HIS word like yours.

Again maybe you should focus on yourself!!!

Have you received the Holy Ghost since you have believed???

HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED??? Acts 19 Check it out!!

 

[Sipsey]

FYI, Holy Ghost is in GOD'S word 90 times.

Holy Spirit 7.

Is it ok with you if I just share HIS word with the words in it?

I don't add my opinion to HIS word, or take other men's opinion over HIS word like yours.

Again maybe you should focus on yourself!!!

Have you received the Holy Ghost since you have believed???

HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED??? Acts 19 Check it out!!

Both “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” in the KJV almost always render the same Greek phrase \(hagion pneuma\) and the corresponding Hebrew idea of God’s Spirit, so the difference is stylistic and historical, not doctrinal.

“Ghost” was a normal, older English word for “spirit” (similar to “guest” and “geist”), so using “Holy Ghost” in 1611 reflected standard English at the time, not a separate theological category.

Several scholars note that the KJV committee apparently allowed both English renderings to stand because different translators favored different wording, leading to a kind of committee compromise rather than a consistent rule.

Modern writers who have examined the usage agree that there is “no clear reason” documented from the translators themselves for why certain verses say “Holy Ghost” while a few say “Holy Spirit.”

For reading and theology, “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” in the KJV refer to the same **Person** of the Trinity; the variation reflects early modern English usage and committee practice, not a different being or work of God.

 

[Ouch]

Both “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” in the KJV almost always render the same Greek phrase \(hagion pneuma\) and the corresponding Hebrew idea of God’s Spirit, so the difference is stylistic and historical, not doctrinal.

“Ghost” was a normal, older English word for “spirit” (similar to “guest” and “geist”), so using “Holy Ghost” in 1611 reflected standard English at the time, not a separate theological category.

Several scholars note that the KJV committee apparently allowed both English renderings to stand because different translators favored different wording, leading to a kind of committee compromise rather than a consistent rule.

Modern writers who have examined the usage agree that there is “no clear reason” documented from the translators themselves for why certain verses say “Holy Ghost” while a few say “Holy Spirit.”

For reading and theology, “Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” in the KJV refer to the same **Person** of the Trinity; the variation reflects early modern English usage and committee practice, not a different being or work of God.

Yep same thing, some people want to make a big thing about it.

But same ""person"" of the trinity???

The Holy Ghost or spirit is a person?

 

[sawdust]

So out of your own mouth, you haven't been baptized in JESUS name to remove your sins.

Now out of your own mouth JESUS has not filled you with the Holy Ghost.

FYI, JESUS SAID, JESUS SAID, JESUS SAID,

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 16,
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

What is your reply to HIM?

Guess you are not hearing what is coming out of my mouth.

I have been baptized with Christ's baptism. Maybe you have not been which, is why you do not recognise the living waters.

 

[sawdust]

We have already been over this over and over and over again...

A one eyed broken record that can only see the scripture he wants to see and ignores the parts that don't fit his story and when you explain how his parts fit with the parts you raise, he complains it is only your opinion and feigns innocence claiming he only shares HIS word.

How well I know the self righteousness.

 

[sawdust]

Yea, I know I asked you this before!!

HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST SINCE YOU HAVE BELIVED.

These fokes did not, they obeyed AND JESUS FILLED THEM.

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.


DID THE HOLY GHOST EVER COME ON YOU???

Seek and ye shall find.

How is it you can read that scripture and not understand that water baptism did not cover their sins because they needed to believe in the One who came after John and that they were baptized in the name of Jesus when Paul laid His hands on them.

Why on earth do you think they were baptized twice in water? Is Jesus name water to you or is His name His person?

 

[sawdust]

Yep same thing, some people want to make a big thing about it.

But same ""person"" of the trinity???

The Holy Ghost or spirit is a person?

Are you saying you do not believe God is one Being who reveals Himself in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

 

[Sipsey]

Yep same thing, some people want to make a big thing about it.

But same ""person"" of the trinity???

The Holy Ghost or spirit is a person?

What does Scripture say?

 

[Ouch]

Guess you are not hearing what is coming out of my mouth.

I have been baptized with Christ's baptism. Maybe you have not been which, is why you do not recognise the living waters.

No Sir, I really did.

Living waters is referring to the spirit.

What I heard is you have not being baptized in water in JESUS name so you have not got rid of your sins and JESUS has not filled you with HIS spirit.

You are always quoting the John saying, JESUS will fill you with HIS spirit but HE hasn't!!

You also think that JESUS doing that elimantes the need to be baptized for your sins.

Best of luck.

 

[Ouch]

Are you saying you do not believe God is one Being who reveals Himself in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

How can then be three persons when there is only ONE GOD?

How many GODS do you think there are?

JESUS does revel who HE really is, Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

JESUS was speaking to HIS DISCIPLES THEY KNEW who HE was and obeyed what JESUS told them to do, every recored act of being baptize was in JESUS name.

Key word HIS DISCIPLES.

 

[Ouch]

What does Scripture say?

There is ONE GOD.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

I like this one best, JESUS speaking AND IN HEAVEN at the same time.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

There are many more, why do you ask you didn't know?

 

[Mem]

Are you saying you do not believe God is one Being who reveals Himself in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

Hence the emphasis on "baptism in the Name of Jesus"

Why on earth do you think they were baptized twice in water? Is Jesus name water to you or is His name His person?

He would require that you be 'rebaptized' if you were baptized 'in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit"