I'm not rejecting them. I'm not opposed to baptism but if baptism doesn't save what's the point? According to your logic it's just becomes theater. If we're instructed to be baptized it must be for more than just theater. The sola fide those shoot themselves in the foot every time.
FOUNDATION, the 12 apostles or Pauls?
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I'm not rejecting them. I'm not opposed to baptism but if baptism doesn't save what's the point? According to your logic it's just becomes theater. If we're instructed to be baptized it must be for more than just theater. The sola fide those shoot themselves in the foot every time.
Maybe you misunderstand what was written. You need to show evidence, besides you say so, that your understanding is authoritative
Belief in Jesus is far more than mere mental acceptance. Scripture reveals Jesus became the author of eternal salvation to all those who obey Him. (Heb. 5:9)
Keep in mind, the thief died prior to the NT commands presented in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 2:38) Jesus prophesied repentance and remission of sin would be preached in His name in all nations beginning in Jerusalem. (Luke 24:47) Note when this actually occurred as recorded in the Word:
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:36-39
Proof Peter presented the same message to the Gentiles that required obedience to water baptism in the name of Jesus. (Acts 10:43-48):
"...Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith." Acts 15:7-9
"...Jesus, said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Mark 16:15-18
Those who believe Jesus, Act! They don't rebel; rebellion is as witchcraft according to the word:
"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee,,," 1 Sam. 15:23
What you have done here is employ a logical fallacy called “post hoc ergo propter hoc”. In English, your conclusion is shaping your arguments.
I didn't say the KJV was wrong.
No you didn't answer mine.
No i call equal treatment
You arent anything like Paul
I do keep it in mind thats why I don't feel compelled not tell you anything
Are you filled is the right question, what are you filled with is. Sanctimony is a virtue
And its between me and him.
You made it about you when you asked me if I'm filled. It doesn't matter what you know
Jesus came to establish His kingdom on the earth not to help us retreat to heaven.
"A Son is given... and of the increase of His government there will be no end"
"On earth as it is in heaven"
Baptism in water does not ensure our place in the Body of Christ. That's the baptism by the Spirit: He places us in the Body. That baptism is the one baptism spoken of in the scriptures. That is the baptism that saves us to go to heaven.
Baptism in water saves us, not to go to heaven, but from the pursuit of our enemies. It's a sign to the evil spirits that the old man in Adam is dead and therefore, can no longer be accused according to the old sin nature. The reason everyone should be baptized in water is because the evil spirits cannot read our minds. By showing them our burial in the death of Jesus we secure a record against their accusations.
I don't know Peter is quite clear. I have a choice to make listen to you or listen to Peter. Which do you think I should choose?
This is not an argument, it is my point of view.
Since I can't back it with HIS word, it remains my point of view.
As I said, JESUS can use anyone in anyway HE wishes along as that vesle is willing.
Acts 11-What was Peter talking about when he said who was he to withstand God AFTER the undeniable evidence of tongues proved the Gentiles had received the indwelling presence of the Spirit?
Acts 15-What requirements did the gospel message presented by Peter include for both Jews and Gentiles?
I was asking because I wanted to see if we were on one accord like those that JESUS filled in Acts 2:4.
It is none of my business UNLESS you were, then we would be brothers in Christ.
I sure did try to answer your questions, which one's didn't I?
Your point of view is your argument, meaning you are making a case in a debate. A debate is not an argument where people are yelling at each other but you're formulating an argument which is your point of view. Good to see you admit it's not backed by Scripture
To me it was a conversation not an arguming.
You said this #35
Protestants have perverted the Bible to fit their twisted "gospel". They deny things that are actually in the Bible and believe things not found in the Bible.
What did you mean?
One accord and brothers in Christ doesn't mean we are the same. 1 Corinthians 12: 4-21
LOL, not the same but a part of the same body!!
But we all need to have the Holy Ghost for that to happen, that is what 1 cor 12 is all about.
ONE ACCORD all have the same mind set.
Let's start with what they sent that is in the Bible. John 20: 21-23. Jesus clearly gives the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Do you agree or disagree?
And your assumption seems to be that if I disagree with you I just not have the Holy Spirit. That's the problem some people refuse to wrestle with.
If you don't have a good foundation what does the discussing the rest of HIS word do?
So I understand you right, I ask you questions and it's the answer is none of my business, then you expect me to answer your questions.
I don't live down a one way street.