This is so absurd. I mean seriously, the things people come up with... smh
FOUNDATION, the 12 apostles or Pauls?
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This is so absurd. I mean seriously, the things people come up with... smh
And how is it absurd? Peter experienced the baptism of the Spirit, a waterless baptism. Saw Cornelius baptized with the Spirit, no water involved yet called for water to baptize him. Then, when recalling the story to tell the others how the Gentiles have been included in salvation, realised the Lord told him that John's baptism of water was not Christ's baptism. The baptism for the Church is not one of repentance but one of power.
Show me where Peter continued baptizing with water?
Well first, you really do not accept HIS word. If you did this conversation would not be going on.
Matter of FACT you are making statement that are not true, I really think you don't even know it?
HIS word is very clear on baptism and the purpose of it.
JESUS has nothing to do with what WE have to do, yep HE died and rose again but HE did what HE was sent here to do. HE set up the foundation, now it's up to us.
He left us instructions what to do and Peter is the one who told us what we must do. Acts 2:37-39
They asked Peter, WHAT DO WE DO.
Repent, get baptized in JESUS name and the Holy Ghost is a PROMISE to all.
So your telling me that Peter put the two together and stopped baptizing????
I was not there but let me tell you what Peter KNEW.
Peter KNEW the reason for baptism, as after JESUS filled the Gentiles with the Holy Ghost PETER KNEW they needed to be baptized and did so.
Peter KNEW what the Holy Ghost was because he was filled with it just like the Gentiles were.
As he said in Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Now if you COULD PROVE WITH HIS WORD THAT PETER REALIZED HE GOT IT WRONG AND STOPPED BAPTIZED I WILL BELIEVE YOU.
JUST PROVE IT, no need to tell me how we are saved or anything else PROVE PETER CHANGED UP.
Peter doesn't appear in the context of proclaiming the gospel after Acts 10, but he did write in 1 Peter 3:21, which was written after Acts 10, that baptism saves us.
I am confused, there is no Ghost, therefore there is no wind, breath, Spirit?
Ok. You're obviously one of those who thinks only they know the truth therefore everyone who disagrees with you doesn't care about God's word.
I'm not interested in discussing with you because you don't discuss, you dictate.
I've shown you what is in the scripture. You interpret it differently, that's on you not me.
Have a nice day, grace and peace.
I'm sorry if I suggested anything other than HIS word.
It's not about US it's about HIS word.
Your the one who made the startement you can't back up, I'm the one who is telling you to prove them.
In doing so, I'm hoping you dig in HIS word to see you can't.
That is how we learn, none of us will know it all that is why we have to be humble.
Sorry, I have no tact.
I gave you His word.
I backed my statement up with scripture.
Don't know what more you want.
As the other poster pointed out, Peter said baptism saves us. I'll ask you the same question, which baptism, John's or Christ's?
Simple answer, since John baptism was before JESUS ascended and the NT rebirthing process started in Acts 1. No one was ever baptized in JESUS name until then.
I think you getting two things mixed up, being baptized in water which is how we get rid of our sins today is something we have to do.
Being filled with the Holy Ghost (baptized in the spirit) is something JESUS has to do.
If you look at Acts 10 both happened, JESUS filled them, HE did HIS part and Peter put them in the water.
The Gentiles were filled and accepted Peters COMMANMENTS and was baptized.
As JESUS said in John 3:5 need BOTH to ENTER.
Peter in Acts 2:38-39 get baptized and you will be filled with the Holy Ghost.
We can also learn they don't come in that order.
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the word "ghost" did not show up until the 1600's when it was added to in an attempt to provide proof of a trinity
The word in Hebrew for spirit is #7307 ruach: spirit, wind, breath See Genesis 1: 2
the word in Greek is #4151 pneuma: Spirit, wind, breath see Matthew 2; 13
if you want to believe it means ghost -- have at it,
I prefer Truth and nothing from Rome
Don't you think JESUS uses people?
I sure was not suggesting another man told him to have it translated.
I feel safe to say that JESUS put that King in charge to do it at that spifice time and year to do the job.
How did that King pick the ones who translation it?
I have no idea, did he hold interviews?
You sure are right a lot of speculation, BUT as we see how JESUS lead others in HIS word it's easy to sat that JESUS was behind it 100%.
This I do know, because of that we have the KJV bible that we use today.
Why do you say it was added to provide proof of the trintiy?
I think we can all agree the trinity was invented in the year 325.
Just curious.
For sure, but I still don't understand what the word Ghost adds to that big lie?
I ask all the time, name your three gods.