The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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What is the Good News announced by Jesus Christ?

Mark 1

14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


Luke 4
43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

Isaiah 9
7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

The Good News Christ came to proclaim: the Government of God will soon come to earth.

Government of man by man is and always has been a curse.

Only The Government of God with Jesus Christ as its KING can and will restore earth back to the Garden of Eden and all will be at peace.
That certainly is good news yet there is also more to this good news and we must not disregard Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. There is a further element to the content of the gospel which Paul received from Christ and is called "the mystery of the gospel." (see Ephesians 6:19 and compare with Colossians 1:26-27; 4:3) This new revelation is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise. (Ephesians 3:6)

Such equality, Jew and Gentile united together in one body was previously unknown. The distinctive message of the church is that Jew and Gentile alike may believe the gospel and be united together into one body. (Ephesians 1:13; 1 Corinthians 12:13)
 
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The Main "message: "the "Kingdom is coming" but in preparation for that Kingdom:

Christ came as our Passover
Our sins are "paid for" by our Passover
The gentile are cleansed
The Holy Spirit is given
and the Bride of Christ is being prepared.
 
are you against Jews?, did you not know Jesus was a Jew?
yes the levetical law was set aside for gentiles but I proved to you the 4th commandment is different from the ones in the Levetical laws.
I gave you the information, what you do with it is your own affair, I can do no more to make you see the truth. of what is clearly written
The passage you quoted comes from a modern doctrinal system called “Truths of Jesus (TOJ)”, using numbered theological claims, not Scripture. It mixes Bible verses with interpretive statements, and that is why it should never be treated as equal to the words of Jesus themselves. Stick to the words of Jesus, they are clear and we do not need anything else to know the truth.

I am a spiritual Jew (Rom. 2:27-29).
The interpretation you gave is wrong per the Scripture I cited.
Do not ignore the words of John and Paul, who were inspired by Jesus.
Otherwise you risk being condemned as a Judaizer (Gal. 1:6-9).

“A new commandment I give you: Love one another as I have loved you.” (John 13:34a)
"He who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law/commandments." (Rom. 13:8b)
"The former regulation [Levitical law] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:11, 18a & 22b).
"If anyone is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!" (Gal. 1:9)
 
I know my op is not the gospel, I never said it was only you here say this, how silly. Yes the commandments can be followed today when you recieve the Holy Spirit. since you do not know this you do not belong to God. Remember Christ asked us to Repent and why, because the Kingdom of Heaven is approaching, you do not have much time, Repent before it is too late at one point the door will be shut and that day is approaching.

as you said;"we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God" what define sin in the bible? you know it is the Commandments.

You really are all over the map. You say the commandments are the covenant. You are gaslighting but you are not very good at it.
 
it is not a catholic teaching, it is a jesus teaching! yeah I agree it is important to read the new testament the most important verses that will save us all are in Matthew, John, Luke and Mark,

And here we have it again. The denial of the covenant that God promised through Christ. What you post is not the actual gospel. It is an amalgam of verses you put together to create your own gospel. Your lack of respect for the New Testament is concerning to say the least and the end of that attitude is death.

You deny salvation through Christ and say the covenant with God is the 10 commandments. That is not what scripture teaches. You want to tell us what Jesus said? Really? Then why leave out the fact that Jesus also said HE is the way to the Father and no one, meaning you also, has any way to reach or please God, except through tehe Son.


Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
John 14:6
 
I know my op is not the gospel, I never said it was only you here say this, how silly. Yes the commandments can be followed today when you recieve the Holy Spirit. since you do not know this you do not belong to God. Remember Christ asked us to Repent and why, because the Kingdom of Heaven is approaching, you do not have much time, Repent before it is too late at one point the door will be shut and that day is approaching.

as you said;"we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God" what define sin in the bible? you know it is the Commandments.

Well at least you admit it. Finally. You do not agree with the gospel of Jesus. There is no scripture whatsoever, absolutely nothing in the Bible that agrees with your statement that the commandments can be followed when we receive the Holy Spirit.

We repent when we turn to Christ. We do not become sinless when we receive Christ. You cannot show that happens from scripture because it is not in there.
 
And here we have it again. The denial of the covenant that God promised through Christ. What you post is not the actual gospel. It is an amalgam of verses you put together to create your own gospel. Your lack of respect for the New Testament is concerning to say the least and the end of that attitude is death.

You deny salvation through Christ and say the covenant with God is the 10 commandments. That is not what scripture teaches. You want to tell us what Jesus said? Really? Then why leave out the fact that Jesus also said HE is the way to the Father and no one, meaning you also, has any way to reach or please God, except through tehe Son.


Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
John 14:6
I am nor denying it I understant it. unfortunately you do not
 
Well at least you admit it. Finally. You do not agree with the gospel of Jesus. There is no scripture whatsoever, absolutely nothing in the Bible that agrees with your statement that the commandments can be followed when we receive the Holy Spirit.

We repent when we turn to Christ. We do not become sinless when we receive Christ. You cannot show that happens from scripture because it is not in there.

Your accusation is false, and it reverses what Jesus Himself taught.

Jesus did not say the commandments cannot be kept when we receive the Holy Spirit. He said the exact opposite. Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15, NKJV). He did not say this was impossible, nor did He say this was only for a time before the Spirit. In the very same teaching, He promised the Holy Spirit to those who follow Him. Jesus makes it clear that obedience and the Spirit go together, not against each other.

Jesus also said, “Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin” (John 8:34), and then He said, “If the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed” (John 8:36). Freedom from sin has meaning. It does not mean perfection in the flesh, but it does mean no longer living as a servant of sin. If sin still rules over a person, then they are not walking in the freedom Jesus spoke about.

Jesus was very clear that true repentance leads to change. He said, “Unless you repent you will all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3), and He also said, “Go and sin no more” (John 8:11). Jesus would not command people to stop sinning if obedience was impossible. His words are not empty.

Jesus also said, “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled” (Matthew 5:6). Being filled means God supplies what He commands. Righteousness is not just forgiven sin, it is a changed way of life that comes from God working in a person.

No one claims we become instantly perfect. That is a straw man. What Scripture teaches is that we are called to walk in obedience, to grow, and to no longer live in open rebellion against God. Jesus said, “He who hears My sayings and does them… I will liken him to a wise man” (Matthew 7:24). Those who refuse obedience, Jesus says plainly, do not truly know Him.

So yes, we repent when we turn to Christ. And yes, we are forgiven. But forgiveness is never permission to continue in sin. The gospel of Jesus is not “sin forever and be covered,” but “repent, follow Me, and be changed.” Anything less is not the teaching of Jesus.

now please stop with your false accusations.
 
If you understand that as becoming sinless, that is not in scripture. If you agree we want to do what is right in God's eyes, then I agree.
Wanting to do good more and more leads to us over time doing good more and more . This is what Gods doing in us changing our Will so that our actions will change our part is to act in accordance by faith

“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will

and to do of his good pleasure.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭

we do evil because we want to it comes from our desires which are corrupted by the world as we grow up in it and begin sinning from those corrupt desires.

“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and long as secretly we really want to commit adultery , we’re going to act upon it because it in our heart and mind we dwell on the thought and eventually the lust meets temptation and opportunity and then that inner desire snares us in sin .

Hearing the gospel teaches people the truth that redeems tbier minds and hearts and changes tbe will back to gods will , expressed by Jesus in the good news the gospel of our lord this Changes corrupt mind and heart.

if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; ( this is why we need to hear and believe the gospel )

and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”( end result of the gospel for believers )
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the example of lust forninstance that leads to adultery , Jesus teaches believers about adultery of the heart before the action takes place

“but I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

A lot of the gospel is meant to change believers internally what they believe about things like the above example so that they’ll repent and be saved

“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

aid I change my mind and don’t allow myself to imagine lusts and adulteries and all plots and schemes ….. “what I want “ will change to the things Jesus promises believers “ eternal life in his kingdom that will be so. Wonderful man had never imagined it.

which is far better than the pleasures of lust achieved through adultery and condemnation . Our minds are carnal we need them To become spiritual .
 
Your accusation is false, and it reverses what Jesus Himself taught.

Jesus did not say the commandments cannot be kept when we receive the Holy Spirit. He said the exact opposite. Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15, NKJV). He did not say this was impossible, nor did He say this was only for a time before the Spirit. In the very same teaching, He promised the Holy Spirit to those who follow Him. Jesus makes it clear that obedience and the Spirit go together, not against each other.

Jesus also said, “Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin” (John 8:34), and then He said, “If the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed” (John 8:36). Freedom from sin has meaning. It does not mean perfection in the flesh, but it does mean no longer living as a servant of sin. If sin still rules over a person, then they are not walking in the freedom Jesus spoke about.

Jesus was very clear that true repentance leads to change. He said, “Unless you repent you will all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3), and He also said, “Go and sin no more” (John 8:11). Jesus would not command people to stop sinning if obedience was impossible. His words are not empty.

Jesus also said, “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled” (Matthew 5:6). Being filled means God supplies what He commands. Righteousness is not just forgiven sin, it is a changed way of life that comes from God working in a person.

No one claims we become instantly perfect. That is a straw man. What Scripture teaches is that we are called to walk in obedience, to grow, and to no longer live in open rebellion against God. Jesus said, “He who hears My sayings and does them… I will liken him to a wise man” (Matthew 7:24). Those who refuse obedience, Jesus says plainly, do not truly know Him.

So yes, we repent when we turn to Christ. And yes, we are forgiven. But forgiveness is never permission to continue in sin. The gospel of Jesus is not “sin forever and be covered,” but “repent, follow Me, and be changed.” Anything less is not the teaching of Jesus.

now please stop with your false accusations.
It seems You’re conflating the Ten Commandments with Christs commandments. Tbe old covenant with the new . The old was governed by “ten Thou shalt nots “ and Moses mediation the new is governed by Jesus the Lord and his word in the gospel.

In the ot god sooke from the Mount out of thunder and trumpets and terrified the people telling them “thou shalt not do this or that “

in the new he spoke from the Mount again

“And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their's is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for their's is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:1-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Vassal

I began resting on God's Sabbath in 1968 and do to day, I also keep The seven Feasts of God, God's commanded Assembles
I eat only clean meat, yes the 40,000 flavors will say I am Jewish, but I follow the example of Jesus Christ. He did "nothing" the 40,000 do today.

The Good News is; "The Government of God is very very soon coming to rule the entire earth" with Christ as its KING.

It has been almost 2000 years since 31 A D when Christ gave up His life for mankind.

Enough of this boasting.

Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
 
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It seems You’re conflating the Ten Commandments with Christs commandments. Tbe old covenant with the new . The old was governed by “ten Thou shalt nots “ and Moses mediation the new is governed by Jesus the Lord and his word in the gospel.

In the ot god sooke from the Mount out of thunder and trumpets and terrified the people telling them “thou shalt not do this or that “

in the new he spoke from the Mount again

“And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their's is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for their's is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:1-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
I understand you say but you have to get yourself to the bottom of this, not for me, but do it for you. every time I ask what the new covenant is according to scripture people become silent not many know, do you? the old covenant was defined by GOD as the ten commandments. now what is the definition and contents of the new covenant? what does it contain according to scripture especially CHrist how did he define it?

Go ahead please define the new covenant and it's contents according to scripture and we will discuss. please make your point according to scripture.
so according to you and thank you for reminding me the verse you quoted :"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”"

is very true for me on this thread, Not from you however your questions are legit but others falsely accuse me for quoting scripture and the words of Jesus that they cannot endure on this thread, they keep refusing what Jesus teachings.

That verse made my day. On that ill be back later this week signing off.

Blessings Pilgrim.
 
Paul was saying that if you get the snip you have fallen from grace.

A catastrophic outcome for a one-off physical snip?

How could that be possible?
again no verses I will have to dig up some scripture, no worries I like doing so. I smell a trap? am I right?
 
Stop twisting scripture with your own beliefs.
The Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, which were given to Moses as a covenant between God and Israel. It was given first before the levitical laws vere given Matthew 19:17, Jesus references the commandments as part of God's moral law when He says, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." However, when Jesus spoke about the Sabbath, He emphasized its purpose rather than strict legal observance. In Mark 2:27, He said, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath," highlighting that the Sabbath was intended for human benefit, not as a burdensome rule.

Jesus did not abolish the Sabbath but clarified its purpose, saying in Matthew 12:8, "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath," indicating that He has authority over its observance and fulfillment. This suggests that while the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, its true meaning is found in Christ, who fulfills the intent of all the commandments, including the Sabbath.

Here i explain the difference between the 4th commandment, ths Sabbath and the sabbath(s) in the Levetical laws given to Moses. There is a clear difference, and the confusion comes from mixing God’s Sabbath with the Levitical sabbath(s). Many people wrongly say the Sabbath is “Levitical,” but Scripture shows otherwise.

The Fourth Commandment is found in Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV). God Himself spoke it, wrote it with His own finger, and placed it inside the Ark of the Covenant.
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy… For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth… and rested the seventh day.”

This Sabbath is tied to creation, not to Moses, not to priests, and not to sacrifices. It goes back to Genesis 2:2–3, before there was Israel, before Levitical law, and before sin. It is the seventh day of every week, blessed and made holy by God. It is part of the Ten Commandments, which define sin and obedience.

Now, in the Levitical law, there are other sabbath(s), and this is where confusion begins.

In Leviticus 23, God lists many appointed times. Some of them are also called sabbaths, but they are very different. These include:
– The first and last days of Unleavened Bread
Pentecost
Trumpets
Day of Atonement
– The first and last days of Tabernacles

These are not weekly. They fall on fixed dates, not fixed weekdays. They can land on any day of the week. They are tied to:
– Sacrifices
– The priesthood
– The temple
– Feasts
– Shadows pointing forward

Leviticus 23:24 (NKJV) is an example:
“In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest.”

This is not the seventh-day Sabbath. It is a ceremonial rest day, connected to a feast.

Scripture itself separates them clearly. In Leviticus 23:3 (NKJV) God speaks of the weekly Sabbath, then later adds the feasts:
“Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest…
These are the feasts of the LORD…”

Notice the Sabbath is spoken first, standing apart.

The weekly Sabbath:
– Is from creation
– Is one of the Ten Commandments
– Was written by God Himself
– Is moral, not ceremonial
– Has no sacrifices required
– Was made for all mankind

The Levitical sabbaths:
– Began with Israel
– Are tied to feasts
– Require sacrifices
– Depend on the temple and priests
– Point forward as shadows
– End when the shadows are fulfilled

Jesus Himself confirms the Sabbath is not Levitical. He says in Mark 2:27 (NKJV):
“The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.”

He does not say it was made for Jews, or for priests, or for ceremonies. It was made for man, meaning humanity.

So the truth is this. There is one weekly Sabbath, given by God at creation and written in the Ten Commandments.
There are many ceremonial sabbaths in the Levitical law, tied to feasts and sacrifices. These are the ones Paul refers to in Colossians 2:16–17 (NKJV):

“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”

Paul is not speaking about the Fourth Commandment. He lists food, drink, feasts, new moons, and sabbaths together, all things found in the ceremonial system of Leviticus. He then explains that these were shadows, meaning signs that pointed forward.

Paul was speaking about ceremonial sabbath days, not the Sabbath God blessed, sanctified, and placed in the Ten Commandments.

When people say “the Sabbath is Levitical,” they are mixing two different things that God Himself kept separate. This confusion causes many to reject a commandment that God never removed.

You said the weekly sacrifices did not have sacrifices?

The weekly sabbaths had offerings and sacrifices.

In ancient Israel, the weekly Sabbath included specific, additional sacrifices (two lambs, grain, and drink offerings)
made by priests at the Tabernacle/Temple, alongside the regular daily offerings, as commanded in Numbers 28:9-10
and Numbers 28:10, complementing the day of rest and spiritual significance. This practice continued until
he Temple's destruction, after which Jewish worship shifted to synagogues, focusing on prayer and study rather
than animal sacrifices. (Google)

What you wrote is not accurate because in the law offerings and sacrifices were commanded, on the sabbath
day.
 
I understand you say but you have to get yourself to the bottom of this, not for me, but do it for you. every time I ask what the new covenant is according to scripture people become silent not many know, do you? the old covenant was defined by GOD as the ten commandments. now what is the definition and contents of the new covenant? what does it contain according to scripture especially CHrist how did he define it?

Go ahead please define the new covenant and it's contents according to scripture and we will discuss. please make your point according to scripture.
so according to you and thank you for reminding me the verse you quoted :"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”"

is very true for me on this thread, Not from you however your questions are legit but others falsely accuse me for quoting scripture and the words of Jesus that they cannot endure on this thread, they keep refusing what Jesus teachings.

That verse made my day. On that ill be back later this week signing off.

Blessings Pilgrim.

How would you define the new covenant?

How would you define "the law of Christ"?

How would you define "the royal law"?
 
Paul was saying that if you get the snip you have fallen from grace.

A catastrophic outcome for a one-off physical snip?

How could that be possible?
I have found the verses I will write to you tomorrow the explanation from paul and jesus's point of view, the trap thing was a joke, do not be offended.