The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[soulprobe]

No such commandment.... which commandment? Circumcision.. this was the commandment debated about... not the sabbath.

They, the apostles and elders, “gave no such commandment” to the Gentile churches in Asia, to “be circumcised and keep the law.” “The law” is the law of Moses which includes the Sabbath.

This is why you misunderstand things about the law. You include the sabbath when it is non arbitrary. The 10 commandments were clear and non arbitary, they were not disputable. Everyone understood the 10 commandments, but the laws of Moses were being disputed because these laws were given because of sin and were shadows of Christ.

You’re the one who misunderstands things about the law. “The law” in this context is the law of Moses. The law of Moses contained the Ten commandments with the Sabbath and other Sabbath and observances. The Israelites, later the Jews, the apostles and Jesus Christ, did not separate the 10 commandments, with the 7th day Sabbath, from the law of Moses. That was not done until the American woman came around in the 18th/19th centuries

God does not change His character or morals. So these laws were known as unchanging. God's laws.

God does not change His character, morals or laws but His covenants/contracts/agreements differ depending on the parties they are made with. God places His commandments within those covenants/agreements He makes between Himself and other parties. When a covenant/contract/agreement is abolished so are the obligations/commandments within that agreement. God’s nature is still the same, but the agreement He had with that particular party, the children of Israel, no longer exists. God will only relate with men through covenant/agreement/contract. He had covenant with Noah and Abraham, the children of Israel, and presently with the Children of God.

So when they regarded which laws or disputed about which laws, the 10 were not part of the equation.

The only law they were disputing about was the law of Moses in its entirety. They were not like SDAs and non-SDAs disputing with each other about which commandments to keep and which ones to discard within the law of Moses. The spies went out to tell the Gentiles in Asia that they had to get circumcised and keep the law, the whole law of Moses.

Circumcision is clearly not needed today.

Acts 15 and the decree was not just about circumcision, it was also about keeping the law of Moses. The decree freed the Gentiles from getting circumcised and keeping the law of Moses (the old covenant that was between God and the Children of Israel). Does that mean the Gentile believers were not under a covenant? No… they were under the New Covenant/agreement/contract made with the Children of God that also contains commandments that are similar to the agreement that was made with the children of Israel. Not lying, stealing, murder, pride, envy, boastfulness are just some of the many, many commandments in the New covenant/agreement made with the Children of God… it’s not the old agreement/covenant made with the children of Israel that contained the 10 commandments

There are clear verses to state this.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
The feasts and sacrifices were introduced because of sin. They all pointed to Jesus. These laws are not to be kept today because the fulness, Christ has come.

Yes… you’re describing the New agreement/covenant between God and the Children of God. The old agreement that was made with the children of Israel that included the 10 commandments does not apply to the Children of God who are under the New agreement/covenant. Because both agreements old and New, come from the same God, there are some similar commandments. If you’re obeying the commandments in the New covenant that say you can’t lie, murder, or steal it doesn’t mean you’re under the old agreement that had similar commandments within the 10. The 7th day sabbath rest and circumcision are not commanded in the New agreement made with the Children of God…. It was only commanded in the old agreement made with the children of Israel.

The sabbath was given before sin entered and made holy before sin entered.
It was made for man.
Why take it away today?

The Sabbath was created but it wasn’t commanded to be observed until the collection of the manna during the time of Moses. And it was only formally commanded to be observed under the old covenant that was between God and the children of Israel within the land of Canaan. The decree removed any obligation for Gentile converts, who were under the New Covenant, to keep the law, which was the law of Moses made between God and the children of Israel, which included the 7th day Sabbath.

 

[Gideon300]

My comment

I do not need "to know" -- all I need to do is go to HIS Word and He will explain what He means

Matthew 19

16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

please take note: the rich man did not ask to go to heaven but to have eternal life.

17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear FALSE witness,

19Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go [and] sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come [and] follow me.

22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Christ listed the Commandments showing how we are to love our neighbor, He left out the 4 showing how to love God as this is what the rich man was not doing.

Wrong. The rich man was an idolator. His riches were more important than eternal life.

 

[memberofthebride]

That's not what I know. The new covenant is the holy spirit to believers. Law written in our heart.

That means the Torah will become our nature as it is God's nature, our human nature must be cut away with the circumcision with out hands and in its place the nature of God, we must have Divine Nature to be in God's family.

 

[Inquisitor]

I understand what you mean about the Spirit writing God’s ways on our hearts. Jesus truly wants a living heart that loves, shows mercy, and treats others the way we want to be treated. But this does not mean the Ten Commandments changed or disappeared. Jesus never said that.

He said the law stands until heaven and earth pass away (Matthew 5:17–19). He also told us that keeping His commandments shows our love for Him (John 14:15). The Ten Commandments do include love, because they teach us how to honor God and how to treat people with respect. They do not list every detail, but they give the foundation. Jesus then gives the deeper meaning, like when He said not to hate, not to lust, and to treat others the way we want to be treated.

So the Spirit writing God’s law on our hearts does not replace the commandments. It helps us keep them with sincerity. The same God who wrote the commandments on stone now writes them inside us so we can live them with love.”

Do you understand why Paul was so strongly opposed to a physical circumcision?

 

[memberofthebride]

The Sabbath was created but it wasn’t commanded to be observed until the collection of the manna during the time of Moses. And it was only formally commanded to be observed under the old covenant that was between God and the children of Israel within the land of Canaan. The decree removed any obligation for Gentile converts, who were under the New Covenant, to keep the law, which was the law of Moses made between God and the children of Israel, which included the 7th day Sabbath.[/QUOTE]


My Comment,

How easy we forget,

The SEVENTH DAY SABBATH is actually the Seventh of what Jesus Christ's created at the Beginning.
the Sabbath was put in place 6000 years ago and none observed it until Moses? really?

And how does the 4th Commandment read? 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

They were to "Remember" the Sabbath Day that was created at the Beginning.

Would any believe Adam and those that came after, those that obeyed, did not observe the Holy Sabbath, which Jesus Christ clearly stated "Was made for MAN" .

Yes, it is not recorded in Genesis, except with Abraham.

Genesis 25

5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
the word "law" is Torah #8451.

When Christ returns as KING of Kings the whole world will keep the 4th Commandment

Isaiah 66
23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another,
and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

 

[vassal]

Your op is not the gospel.

The gospel is the good news concerning Christ and the way of salvation.

The Old Testament Law was given to Israel during the time of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:1). The righteous requirement of the Law is so stringent that no human being could possibly follow it perfectly, in letter or in spirit. Despite our “goodness” or “badness” relative to each other, we are all in the same spiritual boat—we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God

It seems you are having trouble understanding the Bible when it speaks of the New Covenant. As that is the case, here is a very easy to understand article HERE

I know my op is not the gospel, I never said it was only you here say this, how silly. Yes the commandments can be followed today when you recieve the Holy Spirit. since you do not know this you do not belong to God. Remember Christ asked us to Repent and why, because the Kingdom of Heaven is approaching, you do not have much time, Repent before it is too late at one point the door will be shut and that day is approaching.

as you said;"we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God" what define sin in the bible? you know it is the Commandments.

 

[vassal]

You’re the one who picking which commandments to obey. You quote scripture of Jesus talking about the commandments He was obeying and the commandments He told others to obey and then you yourself refuse to obey all of the commandments He obeyed and told others to obey. You pick only some of them and ignore all the others He obeyed. That’s what you call hypocritical.



There’s two differences in the new covenant:

The first difference is that it’s new… a new covenant, agreement, contract. You know what “new” means? It means it never existed before. Like when you get a new car, the old one eventually winds up in the scrap yard. All the features (commandments, observances, statutes) of the old car all get scrapped.

The second difference in the new covenant is that it’s made with a new party. It’s not made with the old party, the children of Israel, it’s made with a new party, the Children of God, who are from all nations. This new contract, just like the new car, comes with some similar features (commandments) because it was manufactured by the same company, but because this new car is super dimensional, its new features allow you to explore the far reaches of the universe at mega warp speeds, to the very place where the designers and authors of the new contract (car) actually reside, whereas the old car (contract) could only explore the region of Canaan and required constant refueling (sacrifices) to keep it going.



Well this scripture is not referring to the New covenant made with the Children of God, this is referring to the new covenant made with the remnants of the House of Israel and the House of Judah after Christ’s return. The New contract (covenant) made with the Children of God is far superior to the one that will be made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah because the Children of God will be ruling with Christ over the House of Israel and the House of Judah.



Yes, but you are not keeping Christ’s commandments, you’re attempting to keep some of the commandments that Christ enacted when He was called “I AM”... that were placed in the old contract that He made not with the new party, the Children of God (His brethren), but with the old party, the children of Israel... a contract that is no longer in effect because it was first broken by the old party it was made with, and then it got replaced with a new and better contract with a completely new party, the Children of God. And the adhoc contract that you placed yourself under was never ratified by Christ because it was made by an American woman who took parts of the old contract and mixed it with her interpretation of the new contract to create an abomination in the eyes of God because it misleads millions of souls.



But that’s exactly what you are doing… When Christ was here He not only taught the Jews and His disciples to keep the whole law of Moses, but to keep it better than the Pharisees. But you’re choosing parts out of the law of Moses, the Ten commandments that you interpret to be a separate contract from the law of Moses according to the teachings of the dead American woman that you follow, and you dismiss others commandments.



You keep restricting God to your contract that you learned from a dead American woman instead of the Living Christ. Act’s 15 gets rid of the old contract, with all its commandments contained therein, to keep it from interfering with the New Contract with its innumerable commandments therein, that many of the Gentile converts in Asia, were already observing because of the Holy Spirit and Paul’s example.

You confuse me with someone else what you wrote about me is false.
you start with:"You’re the one who picking which commandments to obey. You quote scripture of Jesus talking about the commandments He was obeying and the commandments He told others to obey and then you yourself refuse to obey all of the commandments He obeyed and told others to obey. You pick only some of them and ignore all the others He obeyed. That’s what you call hypocritical."

I keep saying the contrary that we cannot pick and choose the commandments and must obey them all is what Jesus said and what i always write.

so ill stop this here there is no point

 

[vassal]

Your op is not the gospel.

The gospel is the good news concerning Christ and the way of salvation.

The Old Testament Law was given to Israel during the time of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:1). The righteous requirement of the Law is so stringent that no human being could possibly follow it perfectly, in letter or in spirit. Despite our “goodness” or “badness” relative to each other, we are all in the same spiritual boat—we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God

It seems you are having trouble understanding the Bible when it speaks of the New Covenant. As that is the case, here is a very easy to understand article HERE

below is a short version of the Gospel of Christ I quote about some time ago;
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...e-gospel-of-jesus-christ.215548/#post-5321305

 

[vassal]

My comment:

Here is the Point many are missing regarding obeying, doing the 10, not the 9 but the 10 commandments

Luke 19

27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.

IF IF you love Jesus Christ you will DO what He tells you To DO, "keep my commandments" if you do not, you are His Enemy and what does Christ say to do to His enemies bring hither, and slay [them] before me.

well you have a dilemma and have to find a solution for yourself, what will you do?

"But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)

"If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love." (John 15:10)

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome." (1 John 5:3)

"And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it." (2 John 1:6)

"Whoever has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him." (John 14:21)

Yes I Keep his commandments and He Jesus, is My Lord and Master.

 

[GWH]

Well said. The witness you speak of, i believe it was approved by God but Moses created the 613 laws which the Jews were to follow. but the 10 commandments were created by God.

The NT indicates that the 4th commandment was part of the Levitical laws, which were not renewed as part of the new command of Jesus for everyone to love everyone (John 13:34-35). Only the moral commands (#1-3 & 5-10) were reaffirmed by Jesus as part of being fully sanctified by God/Christ's HS (Romans 5:5), and Paul clarified that every day should be the Sabbath rest (cf. Hebrews 3-4).

 

[memberofthebride]

well you have a dilemma and have to find a solution for yourself, what will you do?

"But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)

"If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love." (John 15:10)

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome." (1 John 5:3)

"And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it." (2 John 1:6)

"Whoever has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him." (John 14:21)

Yes I Keep his commandments and He Jesus, is My Lord and Master.

Vassal

I began resting on God's Sabbath in 1968 and do to day, I also keep The seven Feasts of God, God's commanded Assembles
I eat only clean meat, yes the 40,000 flavors will say I am Jewish, but I follow the example of Jesus Christ. He did "nothing" the 40,000 do today.

The Good News is; "The Government of God is very very soon coming to rule the entire earth" with Christ as its KING.

It has been almost 2000 years since 31 A D when Christ gave up His life for mankind.

 

[mailmandan]

Your op is not the gospel.

The gospel is the good news concerning Christ and the way of salvation.

The Old Testament Law was given to Israel during the time of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:1). The righteous requirement of the Law is so stringent that no human being could possibly follow it perfectly, in letter or in spirit. Despite our “goodness” or “badness” relative to each other, we are all in the same spiritual boat—we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God

It seems you are having trouble understanding the Bible when it speaks of the New Covenant. As that is the case, here is a very easy to understand article HERE

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. The gospel is a message of grace that is to be received through faith. (Acts 15:7-9; Ephesians 2:8,9) The gospel is NOT, "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works" as certain misguided teachers of the law teach. Example below:

The counterfeit Gospel is out there. What is the other Gospel? It is a Gospel that tries to separate God's Law (10 commandments) from the Cross. It is a Gospel that tries to separate God's 10 commandments from the plan of salvation. God’s Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ.

 

[vassal]

Not true. Jesus was preaching to Jews. The sermon on the mount shows that the ten commandments are only a shadow of the reality that God requires. God said that the commandments were not too hard for Israel. Jesus said that God's real intent for the human race were impossible.

I will just reply to what is above. It is true that Jesus came first to the Jews, God's chosen people, but do not forget the great commission He gave to His disciples: to preach everything He did for us, to preach every word He spoke to ALL mankind, Jews and Gentiles. This is in Scripture, and you know it. If not, I can point you to the verses, no problem.

Who was there at the Sermon on the Mount? Jews only? No, many Gentiles were there also. Yes, Jesus explained the law further, but did He say the commandments were removed? Certainly not. He was teaching all of them as well, and we have His words about them in Matthew, John, Luke, and Mark. He spoke quite a lot about them and showed us the proper way to follow them.

Remember, He rebuked the Pharisees because they were not following the commandments with justice, love, and mercy. Instead, they used them to condemn others. They were the worst offenders and also added rules that made the commandments impossible to follow. Jesus explained all of this. Please read about it again—it’s all in your Bible.

Jesus also made it clear that keeping the commandments is not just about outward actions but about having a heart aligned with God's will. In Matthew 5:27-28, He said: "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Jesus was teaching that true obedience comes from within, from a transformed heart, not just external conformity. He emphasized that loving God with all our heart, soul, and mind—and loving our neighbor as ourselves—is the essence of the commandments (Matthew 22:37-40). The law is fulfilled when it is lived out from the heart, in love and humility, not through mere rule-following or legalism.

 

[vassal]

Do you understand why Paul was so strongly opposed to a physical circumcision?

yes and he was right

 

[vassal]

The NT indicates that the 4th commandment was part of the Levitical laws, which were not renewed as part of the new command of Jesus for everyone to love everyone (John 13:34-35). Only the moral commands (#1-3 & 5-10) were reaffirmed by Jesus as part of being fully sanctified by God/Christ's HS (Romans 5:5), and Paul clarified that every day should be the Sabbath rest (cf. Hebrews 3-4).

Stop twisting scripture with your own beliefs.
The Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, which were given to Moses as a covenant between God and Israel. It was given first before the levitical laws vere given Matthew 19:17, Jesus references the commandments as part of God's moral law when He says, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." However, when Jesus spoke about the Sabbath, He emphasized its purpose rather than strict legal observance. In Mark 2:27, He said, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath," highlighting that the Sabbath was intended for human benefit, not as a burdensome rule.

Jesus did not abolish the Sabbath but clarified its purpose, saying in Matthew 12:8, "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath," indicating that He has authority over its observance and fulfillment. This suggests that while the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, its true meaning is found in Christ, who fulfills the intent of all the commandments, including the Sabbath.

Here i explain the difference between the 4th commandment, ths Sabbath and the sabbath(s) in the Levetical laws given to Moses. There is a clear difference, and the confusion comes from mixing God’s Sabbath with the Levitical sabbath(s). Many people wrongly say the Sabbath is “Levitical,” but Scripture shows otherwise.

The Fourth Commandment is found in Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV). God Himself spoke it, wrote it with His own finger, and placed it inside the Ark of the Covenant.
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy… For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth… and rested the seventh day.”

This Sabbath is tied to creation, not to Moses, not to priests, and not to sacrifices. It goes back to Genesis 2:2–3, before there was Israel, before Levitical law, and before sin. It is the seventh day of every week, blessed and made holy by God. It is part of the Ten Commandments, which define sin and obedience.

Now, in the Levitical law, there are other sabbath(s), and this is where confusion begins.

In Leviticus 23, God lists many appointed times. Some of them are also called sabbaths, but they are very different. These include:
– The first and last days of Unleavened Bread
– Pentecost
– Trumpets
– Day of Atonement
– The first and last days of Tabernacles

These are not weekly. They fall on fixed dates, not fixed weekdays. They can land on any day of the week. They are tied to:
– Sacrifices
– The priesthood
– The temple
– Feasts
– Shadows pointing forward

Leviticus 23:24 (NKJV) is an example:
“In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest.”

This is not the seventh-day Sabbath. It is a ceremonial rest day, connected to a feast.

Scripture itself separates them clearly. In Leviticus 23:3 (NKJV) God speaks of the weekly Sabbath, then later adds the feasts:
“Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest…
These are the feasts of the LORD…”

Notice the Sabbath is spoken first, standing apart.

The weekly Sabbath:
– Is from creation
– Is one of the Ten Commandments
– Was written by God Himself
– Is moral, not ceremonial
– Has no sacrifices required
– Was made for all mankind

The Levitical sabbaths:
– Began with Israel
– Are tied to feasts
– Require sacrifices
– Depend on the temple and priests
– Point forward as shadows
– End when the shadows are fulfilled

Jesus Himself confirms the Sabbath is not Levitical. He says in Mark 2:27 (NKJV):
“The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.”

He does not say it was made for Jews, or for priests, or for ceremonies. It was made for man, meaning humanity.

So the truth is this. There is one weekly Sabbath, given by God at creation and written in the Ten Commandments.
There are many ceremonial sabbaths in the Levitical law, tied to feasts and sacrifices. These are the ones Paul refers to in Colossians 2:16–17 (NKJV):

“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”

Paul is not speaking about the Fourth Commandment. He lists food, drink, feasts, new moons, and sabbaths together, all things found in the ceremonial system of Leviticus. He then explains that these were shadows, meaning signs that pointed forward.

Paul was speaking about ceremonial sabbath days, not the Sabbath God blessed, sanctified, and placed in the Ten Commandments.

When people say “the Sabbath is Levitical,” they are mixing two different things that God Himself kept separate. This confusion causes many to reject a commandment that God never removed.

 

[vassal]

Vassal

I began resting on God's Sabbath in 1968 and do to day, I also keep The seven Feasts of God, God's commanded Assembles
I eat only clean meat, yes the 40,000 flavors will say I am Jewish, but I follow the example of Jesus Christ. He did "nothing" the 40,000 do today.

The Good News is; "The Government of God is very very soon coming to rule the entire earth" with Christ as its KING.

It has been almost 2000 years since 31 A D when Christ gave up His life for mankind.

then we are in agreement, what you wrote to me, as I am being falsely accused constantly it looked like you were saying i DO NOT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS and SHOULD.....I read the verse you spoke of and took it as you were accusing me...

Yes Gods perfect government one day soon will come. The commandments will be put in men's heart and we will no longer have to teach them.

It is hard work to teach them people do not usually listen.

 

[GWH]

Stop twisting scripture with your own beliefs.
The Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, which were given to Moses as a covenant between God and Israel. It was given first before the levitical laws vere given Matthew 19:17, Jesus references the commandments as part of God's moral law when He says, "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." However, when Jesus spoke about the Sabbath, He emphasized its purpose rather than strict legal observance. In Mark 2:27, He said, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath," highlighting that the Sabbath was intended for human benefit, not as a burdensome rule.

Jesus did not abolish the Sabbath but clarified its purpose, saying in Matthew 12:8, "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath," indicating that He has authority over its observance and fulfillment. This suggests that while the Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments, its true meaning is found in Christ, who fulfills the intent of all the commandments, including the Sabbath.

Here i explain the difference between the 4th commandment, ths Sabbath and the sabbath(s) in the Levetical laws given to Moses. There is a clear difference, and the confusion comes from mixing God’s Sabbath with the Levitical sabbath(s). Many people wrongly say the Sabbath is “Levitical,” but Scripture shows otherwise.

The Fourth Commandment is found in Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV). God Himself spoke it, wrote it with His own finger, and placed it inside the Ark of the Covenant.
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy… For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth… and rested the seventh day.”

This Sabbath is tied to creation, not to Moses, not to priests, and not to sacrifices. It goes back to Genesis 2:2–3, before there was Israel, before Levitical law, and before sin. It is the seventh day of every week, blessed and made holy by God. It is part of the Ten Commandments, which define sin and obedience.

Now, in the Levitical law, there are other sabbath(s), and this is where confusion begins.

In Leviticus 23, God lists many appointed times. Some of them are also called sabbaths, but they are very different. These include:
– The first and last days of Unleavened Bread
– Pentecost
– Trumpets
– Day of Atonement
– The first and last days of Tabernacles

These are not weekly. They fall on fixed dates, not fixed weekdays. They can land on any day of the week. They are tied to:
– Sacrifices
– The priesthood
– The temple
– Feasts
– Shadows pointing forward

Leviticus 23:24 (NKJV) is an example:
“In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest.”

This is not the seventh-day Sabbath. It is a ceremonial rest day, connected to a feast.

Scripture itself separates them clearly. In Leviticus 23:3 (NKJV) God speaks of the weekly Sabbath, then later adds the feasts:
“Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest…
These are the feasts of the LORD…”

Notice the Sabbath is spoken first, standing apart.

The weekly Sabbath:
– Is from creation
– Is one of the Ten Commandments
– Was written by God Himself
– Is moral, not ceremonial
– Has no sacrifices required
– Was made for all mankind

The Levitical sabbaths:
– Began with Israel
– Are tied to feasts
– Require sacrifices
– Depend on the temple and priests
– Point forward as shadows
– End when the shadows are fulfilled

Jesus Himself confirms the Sabbath is not Levitical. He says in Mark 2:27 (NKJV):
“The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.”

He does not say it was made for Jews, or for priests, or for ceremonies. It was made for man, meaning humanity.

So the truth is this. There is one weekly Sabbath, given by God at creation and written in the Ten Commandments.
There are many ceremonial sabbaths in the Levitical law, tied to feasts and sacrifices. These are the ones Paul refers to in Colossians 2:16–17 (NKJV):

“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”

Paul is not speaking about the Fourth Commandment. He lists food, drink, feasts, new moons, and sabbaths together, all things found in the ceremonial system of Leviticus. He then explains that these were shadows, meaning signs that pointed forward.

Paul was speaking about ceremonial sabbath days, not the Sabbath God blessed, sanctified, and placed in the Ten Commandments.

When people say “the Sabbath is Levitical,” they are mixing two different things that God Himself kept separate. This confusion causes many to reject a commandment that God never removed.

Nice try, but beware of being a Judaizer, who perverts the Gospel by reverting to salvation via works/obeying OT laws.

The Sabbath Law requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments re-commanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC laws that temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus, who replaced them with His eternal moral command to love everyone.

"The former regulation [Levitical law] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:11, 18a & 22b).
“A new commandment I give you: Love one another as I have loved you.” (John 13:34a)
"He who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law/commandments." (Rom. 13:8b)

TOJ #129: The law of love summarizes God’s moral will. [Matt. 22:37-39//Mark 12:29-31] Although this law has two applications (love for God and love for people, including oneself), these are combined and enumerated as one to show that they coexist (1John 4:20-21). This law (Deut. 6:5, Lev. 19:18) summarizes all of God’s moral commandments as Paul also taught (Gal. 5:14). Jesus commanded His disciples to love {John 13:34, 15:12&17}. Love is the sign that a soul is a Spirit-filled Christian (TOJ #148, cf. #113).

TOJ #148: Faith in/love for God is manifested by loving behavior toward people. [Matt. 25:31-46] The evidence of saving Faith is loving behavior. {John 13:35, 15:12-13} It is the fruit of the Spirit {JN 15:4-8} (also see Gal. 5:22-23), rather than ability to work miracles (Matt. 24:24). This love is the basis for essential unity among all Christians {John 15:17, 17:20-23}. Faith without love is counterfeit (Jam. 2:17). Satisfying GRFS is manifested by any type of personality (introverted, extroverted, etc.) as long as one is loving, but no good work merits salvation (Eph. 2:8-9), because no one is perfect (Phil. 3:12) except God (Heb. 5:7-9; TOJ #106).

 

[memberofthebride]

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. The gospel is a message of grace that is to be received through faith. (Acts 15:7-9; Ephesians 2:8,9) The gospel is NOT, "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works" as certain misguided teachers of the law teach. Example below:

The counterfeit Gospel is out there. What is the other Gospel? It is a Gospel that tries to separate God's Law (10 commandments) from the Cross. It is a Gospel that tries to separate God's 10 commandments from the plan of salvation. God’s Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ.

Comment:

What is the Good News announced by Jesus Christ?

Mark 1

14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


Luke 4
43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

Isaiah 9
7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

The Good News Christ came to proclaim: the Government of God will soon come to earth.

Government of man by man is and always has been a curse.

Only The Government of God with Jesus Christ as its KING can and will restore earth back to the Garden of Eden and all will be at peace.

 

[vassal]

Nice try, but beware of being a Judaizer, who perverts the Gospel by reverting to salvation via works/obeying OT laws.

The Sabbath Law requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments re-commanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC laws that temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus, who replaced them with His eternal moral command to love everyone.

"The former regulation [Levitical law] is set aside... and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:11, 18a & 22b).
“A new commandment I give you: Love one another as I have loved you.” (John 13:34a)
"He who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law/commandments." (Rom. 13:8b)

TOJ #129: The law of love summarizes God’s moral will. [Matt. 22:37-39//Mark 12:29-31] Although this law has two applications (love for God and love for people, including oneself), these are combined and enumerated as one to show that they coexist (1John 4:20-21). This law (Deut. 6:5, Lev. 19:18) summarizes all of God’s moral commandments as Paul also taught (Gal. 5:14). Jesus commanded His disciples to love {John 13:34, 15:12&17}. Love is the sign that a soul is a Spirit-filled Christian (TOJ #148, cf. #113).

TOJ #148: Faith in/love for God is manifested by loving behavior toward people. [Matt. 25:31-46] The evidence of saving Faith is loving behavior. {John 13:35, 15:12-13} It is the fruit of the Spirit {JN 15:4-8} (also see Gal. 5:22-23), rather than ability to work miracles (Matt. 24:24). This love is the basis for essential unity among all Christians {John 15:17, 17:20-23}. Faith without love is counterfeit (Jam. 2:17). Satisfying GRFS is manifested by any type of personality (introverted, extroverted, etc.) as long as one is loving, but no good work merits salvation (Eph. 2:8-9), because no one is perfect (Phil. 3:12) except God (Heb. 5:7-9; TOJ #106).

are you against Jews?, did you not know Jesus was a Jew?

yes the levetical law was set aside for gentiles but I proved to you the 4th commandment is different from the ones in the Levetical laws.

I gave you the information, what you do with it is your own affair, I can do no more to make you see the truth. of what is clearly written

The passage you quoted comes from a modern doctrinal system called “Truths of Jesus (TOJ)”, using numbered theological claims, not Scripture. It mixes Bible verses with interpretive statements, and that is why it should never be treated as equal to the words of Jesus themselves. Stick to the words of Jesus, they are clear and we do not need anything else to know the truth.

 

[vassal]

Comment:

What is the Good News announced by Jesus Christ?

Mark 1

14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.


Luke 4
43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

Isaiah 9
7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

The Good News Christ came to proclaim: the Government of God will soon come to earth.

Government of man by man is and always has been a curse.

Only The Government of God with Jesus Christ as its KING can and will restore earth back to the Garden of Eden and all will be at peace.

Amen!