WHO IS REALLY BORN AGAIN?

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GWH said:
Matt. 10:22, “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

Rom. 11:22, “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.”

1Cor. 15:2, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.”

Gal. 5:4, “You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.”

Col. 1:22-23, “But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.”

2Thes. 1:4-5, “Therefore, among God’s churches we boast about your perseverance and faith in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring. All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.”

2Tim. 2:12, “If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;”

Heb. 3:6&14, “But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast… We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.”

Heb. 6:4-6, “It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.” This passage indicates that apostasy may be viewed as total depravity or blasphemy against the HS (MT 12:31).

Heb. 10:26-36, “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God… So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.”

Jam. 1:12, “Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”

2Pet. 1:10-11, “Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”

2Pet. 2:20, “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.”

1John 2:24-25, “See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.”

Jude 21, “Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.”

Rev. 2:10, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.”
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Not one verse demonstrates how someone is unborn again. John 3 speaks about being born again. Can you cite a verse where Jesus tells us how to be unborn again?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Not one verse demonstrates how someone is unborn again. John 3 speaks about being born again. Can you cite a verse where Jesus tells us how to be unborn again?
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Jesus indicated that a person who is born again per #43 may become unborn again by doing the opposite of the following
(some stated in terms of faith/F and some in terms of works/W:

From Matthew
  1. Repent (4:17, F)
  2. Recognize one’s spiritual poverty (5:3, F)
  3. Be righteous (5:20, W)
  4. Love your enemies (5:44, W)
  5. Forgive those who offend you (6:14, 18:35, W)
  6. Serve God (6:24&33, W)
  7. Enter the narrow gate (7:13, F)
  8. Do God’s will (7:21 & 12:50, F&W)
  9. Hear and act (7:24, F&W)
  10. Confess Jesus (10:32, W)
  11. Love Jesus (10:37, F)
  12. Give life to Jesus (10:39& 16:24-25, F)
  13. Have no doubt (11:6, F)
  14. Come to Jesus (11:28, F)
  15. Learn from Jesus (11:29, W)
  16. Be for Jesus (12:30, F)
  17. Understand (13:23, F)
  18. Be good (5:48 & 13:38,43,49, W)
  19. Value salvation (13:44-46, F)
  20. Believe Jesus (16:16& 21:32, F)
  21. Become humble (18:3-4 & 19:14, W)
  22. Forgive others (18:35, W)
  23. Give to the poor (19:21, W)
  24. Follow Jesus (19:21&29, F)
  25. Yield fruit (21:43, W)
  26. Dress appropriately (22:11-14, cf. RV 16:15, W)
  27. Love God, neighbor & self (22:37-40, W)
  28. Hold out until the end (24:13, F)
  29. Keep awake (24:42 & 25:13, F)
  30. Be ready (24:44, F&W)
  31. Be trustworthy and useful (25:21&30, F&W)
  32. Help Jesus’ brothers (25:34-40, W)
  33. Be righteous/do right (25:46, F&W)
More from Mark and Luke

34. Accept the kingdom (Mark 10:15, F)
35. Believe the Gospel (Mark 16:16, F)
36. Receive baptism (Mark 16:16, W)
37. Be hated (Luke 6:22-23, W)
38. Lend (Luke 6:35, W)
39. Judge not (Luke 6:37, W)
40. Invite the poor to your party (Luke 14:13-14, W)
41. Use wealth wisely (Luke 16:9, W)
42. Stand firm (Luke 21:19, F)

From John

43. Be born again (3:3&6, F)
44. Come to the light (3:21, F)
45. Drink living water (4:14, F)
46. Heed Jesus (5:24, W)
47. Do right (5:29, W)
48. Work for the food of life (6:27, W)
49. Believe in the one God has sent (F)
50. Partake of the bread of life (6:33-35&51, F)
51. Eat the flesh and drink the blood of X (6:54, F)
52. Dwell within the truth (8:31&35, W)
53. Obey the Son (8:51 & 14:15, F&W)
54. Hate self; serve Jesus (12:25-26, W)
55. Accept Jesus’ words (12:47, F)
56. Follow Jesus’ example (13:15-17, W)
57. Dwell in Jesus and in love (15:5-10, F&W)
58. Heed his command (15:10-12, F)
59. Know God and Jesus Christ (17:3, F)
60. Believe Jesus is Christ/Son (20:31, F)

This does not include #61-112 that Jesus inspired Paul to say.
 
GWH said:
Jesus indicated that a person who is born again per #43 may become unborn again by doing the opposite of the following
(some stated in terms of faith/F and some in terms of works/W:

From Matthew
  1. Repent (4:17, F)
  2. Recognize one’s spiritual poverty (5:3, F)
  3. Be righteous (5:20, W)
  4. Love your enemies (5:44, W)
  5. Forgive those who offend you (6:14, 18:35, W)
  6. Serve God (6:24&33, W)
  7. Enter the narrow gate (7:13, F)
  8. Do God’s will (7:21 & 12:50, F&W)
  9. Hear and act (7:24, F&W)
  10. Confess Jesus (10:32, W)
  11. Love Jesus (10:37, F)
  12. Give life to Jesus (10:39& 16:24-25, F)
  13. Have no doubt (11:6, F)
  14. Come to Jesus (11:28, F)
  15. Learn from Jesus (11:29, W)
  16. Be for Jesus (12:30, F)
  17. Understand (13:23, F)
  18. Be good (5:48 & 13:38,43,49, W)
  19. Value salvation (13:44-46, F)
  20. Believe Jesus (16:16& 21:32, F)
  21. Become humble (18:3-4 & 19:14, W)
  22. Forgive others (18:35, W)
  23. Give to the poor (19:21, W)
  24. Follow Jesus (19:21&29, F)
  25. Yield fruit (21:43, W)
  26. Dress appropriately (22:11-14, cf. RV 16:15, W)
  27. Love God, neighbor & self (22:37-40, W)
  28. Hold out until the end (24:13, F)
  29. Keep awake (24:42 & 25:13, F)
  30. Be ready (24:44, F&W)
  31. Be trustworthy and useful (25:21&30, F&W)
  32. Help Jesus’ brothers (25:34-40, W)
  33. Be righteous/do right (25:46, F&W)
More from Mark and Luke

34. Accept the kingdom (Mark 10:15, F)
35. Believe the Gospel (Mark 16:16, F)
36. Receive baptism (Mark 16:16, W)
37. Be hated (Luke 6:22-23, W)
38. Lend (Luke 6:35, W)
39. Judge not (Luke 6:37, W)
40. Invite the poor to your party (Luke 14:13-14, W)
41. Use wealth wisely (Luke 16:9, W)
42. Stand firm (Luke 21:19, F)

From John

43. Be born again (3:3&6, F)
44. Come to the light (3:21, F)
45. Drink living water (4:14, F)
46. Heed Jesus (5:24, W)
47. Do right (5:29, W)
48. Work for the food of life (6:27, W)
49. Believe in the one God has sent (F)
50. Partake of the bread of life (6:33-35&51, F)
51. Eat the flesh and drink the blood of X (6:54, F)
52. Dwell within the truth (8:31&35, W)
53. Obey the Son (8:51 & 14:15, F&W)
54. Hate self; serve Jesus (12:25-26, W)
55. Accept Jesus’ words (12:47, F)
56. Follow Jesus’ example (13:15-17, W)
57. Dwell in Jesus and in love (15:5-10, F&W)
58. Heed his command (15:10-12, F)
59. Know God and Jesus Christ (17:3, F)
60. Believe Jesus is Christ/Son (20:31, F)

This does not include #61-112 that Jesus inspired Paul to say.
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Please show the particular verse that states how to be unborn again.
 
Me_Clay said:
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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I'm born of God and I never commit sin.
My unregenerate flesh, on the other hand, sins all the time and will continue to until the day I die and leave it behind.
 
JohnRH said:
I'm born of God and I never commit sin.
My unregenerate flesh, on the other hand, sins all the time and will continue to until the day I die and leave it behind.
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My little one, you don't even know what're saying?
 
Cameron143 said:
Please show the particular verse that states how to be unborn again.
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I cited 60 verses quoting Jesus stating how to be saved = born again.
The point is that GRFS can be stated 60+ ways, so don't get fixated on only one, #43.

In #80 I cited 16 verses indicating that a believer can be unborn again by repudiating saving faith/committing apostasy.
 
GWH said:
I cited 60 verses quoting Jesus stating how to be saved = born again.
The point is that GRFS can be stated 60+ ways, so don't get fixated on only one, #43.

In #80 I cited 16 verses indicating that a believer can be unborn again by repudiating saving faith/committing apostasy.
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Being born again is a spiritual birth. How can someone be unborn spiritually? Does the Spirit who once indwelt the believer leave? How does this take place? And if the Spirit left, wouldn't that be God forsaking the individual? Wouldn't that mean they have been separated from the love of God in Christ Jesus?
 
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Wouldn't that mean they have been separated from the love of God in Christ Jesus?

Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
 
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