Speaking in tongues

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Okay so start a fellowship in the home. I am sure you would be a good leader and I bet there would be a few folks who would appreciate that.

That is a pretty cool idea, I have ministered locally in a couple of care centers, Holy Spirit is experienced there and strongly. Our ministry is often the people nearest us.
blessings
 
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Okay so start a fellowship in the home. I am sure you would be a good leader and I bet there would be a few folks who would appreciate that.
Well the residents here are not exactly mentally there they don't exactly comprehendd things they all have mental illness that prevents them from comprehending most things so it would not be easy to do that. there is a few who I do talk about God with but aside from the very few here who would understand what I am saying most of them would not be able to do it.
That is why I am kind of lonely here
 
That is a pretty cool idea, I have ministered locally in a couple of care centers, Holy Spirit is experienced there and strongly. Our ministry is often the people nearest us.
blessings
That is pretty awesome! I am glad to hear you have ministered to them I wish I could do the same where I live but most here have either Alzheimer's or Dementia
 
Their spirit is whole I am sure, your intercession for them will bear fruit, the little Jesus figures are almost universally well received around here and it sparks immediate recognition of the spiritual connection He would have us walk in.
Pray for any staff who you have contact with, asking if you could pray a blessing over them, I am sure He will manifest and they will be amazed, ask if they have needs for your prayers, as He answers them you will see Him working through them because of your faithfulness.
Most mistake an hour of worship a week as their ticket to heaven when His command was to heal, raise, cast out, etc.
blessings brother
 
The Gifts of the Holy Ghost are distributed out by God in order that throughout the entire congregation all of the Gifts can be active for the purpose of edifying God. This means even though wrote that anyone can be given this Gift it's not something all of the Body of Christ will have.

The problem is when Churches and Preachers begin legalizing the Gifts and applying false purposes to them such as you must be doing this and that outside of accepting Jesus as your personal Lord, God, and Savior.

Unfortunately, you ran into a group of people that have legalized Speaking in Tongues as a requirement for being Saved. This is incorrect and they will pay for that in due time.
 
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That is pretty awesome! I am glad to hear you have ministered to them I wish I could do the same where I live but most here have either Alzheimer's or Dementia

Well, all we are responsible for is doing the best we can with the opportunities God provides, however minimal.
Theoretically Jesus started with Twelve, but actually only one/Paul panned out. If it fizzles, at least you tried.

Meet weekly, if not daily? Begin simply, by reading a brief Bible verse, sing a song, and invite prayer--
perhaps the Lord's Sample in unison?
 
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1 Corinthians 14
1Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people, but to God; for no one [a]understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But the one who prophesies speaks to people for edification, [c]exhortation, and consolation. 4The one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you would prophesy; and greater is the one who prophesies than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.


The core point of the gifts is to edify the Body of Christ.
That said the gift of tongues only edifies the speaker, unless he also interprets.
It is notable that those who only want to speak in tongues is prone to selfishness & limit their ministry by NOT wanting any other gift.
To complete the body of Christ, we should ask for a gift that is absent in the body.
Still, as Paul says, prophecy is the best gift, because the prophet represents the Lord speaking to His church. Prophecy can work in several directions of ministry as the Holy Spirit gives the utterance.
Prophecy is the gift in Acts 2 that God said EVERYONE in the church should possess.

Thanks Edify, for your comments. The verse you quote is my favorite verse regarding what people refer to as 'speaking in tongues', because it provides a definition of terms. Many people think they know what a Bible term or word means because it is an English term. They speak English so they think that they know what it means. However, English terms in the Bible are not always meaning the same as in modern English. For example, the term 'blessed' is used in the Bible. In today's English, 'blessed' means to be very fortunate, generally giving thanks to God. Someone might say that they are blessed to get a good grade on a test, or that they are blessed to have a good job. While they think that they know what 'blessed' means in the Bible, they are not letting the Bible tell them what it means. The Bible indicates that the term is used to describe those who are saved. So, in the Bible we read, "Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. " Nothing wrong with thanking God for other things, but the meaning is different in the Bible than it is in everyday English.

In 1 Cor 14, we read: "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. "

Just as we saw with the term 'blessed', these Corinthians 14 verses contain terms that relate to being saved or not being saved based on the usage.
We learn that when someone speaks in an 'unknown tongue' they do well since they are speaking to God, but that, unfortunately, no one understands. We also learn that they speak mysteries. People have incorrectly thought that this is modern English for saying that people babble in an incoherent language. The phrase 'mysteries', in modern English definition, further enhances this concept in their minds. However, 'mysteries' in the Bible has a different meaning. It simply means the word of God, the gospel (Matthew 13:11). So, the person is not babbling incoherently. Rather, a saved person is speaking the gospel, but the hearer is unsaved. Therefore, the unsaved person cannot understand it. They do not receive it, because they are unsaved. It is unknown, an unknown language in that regard. Both persons may speak English, but one is sharing the gospel since he is saved, whilst the other is not receiving the gospel since he is unsaved. To him, the gospel is an unknown entity, an unknown language, a mystery that he does not understand.

Therefore, 1 Corinthians instructs us to go ahead and speak the gospel to receive personal edification, but that it would be even better if we pray for those who we speak the gospel to, to be also saved and to understand it. We pray that if they are not saved they will become saved by hearing it. Or if they are already saved, they will be edified by understanding a part of the gospel that they previously had not understood. The Bible describes this as being different from what is calls an 'unknown tongue'. It describes this as 'prophesying'. So, prophesying is sharing the gospel in a manner that contributes to another person or group of persons understand and receiving the gospel. That is why the Bible says that we should pray to interpret. People who think in modern English, simply imagine interpret to mean to translate a babbling or an unknown language into the known language - like babbling into English or like Spanish into English. But that is not what is being said. The Bible term 'interpret' here means to have the gospel understood by the person hearing it, through conversion of the hearer being saved. No wonder we are to pray that someone interpret. We are to pray that the hearer is saved, or if already saved, to receive the new revelation of the gospel that they did not receive previously.

They testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy, not babbling or speaking in a language different from the hearer.
 
That is pretty awesome! I am glad to hear you have ministered to them I wish I could do the same where I live but most here have either Alzheimer's or Dementia
"They have", indicates possession, they don't own it, they have been attacked by the enemy with these conditions and no one has raised up to intercede on their behalf, if you are the most spiritually filled person there you have His authority to walk in for His will to be done.
blessings
 
The Gifts of the Holy Ghost are distributed out by God in order that throughout the entire congregation all of the Gifts can be active for the purpose of edifying God. This means even though wrote that anyone can be given this Gift it's not something all of the Body of Christ will have.

The problem is when Churches and Preachers begin legalizing the Gifts and applying false purposes to them such as you must be doing this and that outside of accepting Jesus as your personal Lord, God, and Savior.

Unfortunately, you ran into a group of people that have legalized Speaking in Tongues as a requirement for being Saved. This is incorrect and they will pay for that in due time.
Yeah actually I even had a dream before I went there about a a lady who didn't think I was saved and it was because I didn't speak in tongues and she had some kind fo form she wanted me to sign. I believe it was a warning dream and now I see why God gave it to me the lady in the dream wanted me to sign her form because she wanted me to subscribe to her way of doing things or else I was not saved in her eyes.

So to legalize the gifts I was presented with that form frokm this lady in the dream
 
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"They have", indicates possession, they don't own it, they have been attacked by the enemy with these conditions and no one has raised up to intercede on their behalf, if you are the most spiritually filled person there you have His authority to walk in for His will to be done.
blessings
WWell if the spirit leads me to I can impart the spirit on them however if he does not then I cannot do anything about it
I wish he gave me the laying of hands gift because I have personally experienced it's power before
 
I concur with your estimate on obeying the Lord in the Spirit. I never heard of this guy that you mentioned so I cannot offer an opinion on what he is doing is valid in a biblical and spiritual sense so I will just take your word for this.
Kenneth Hagin trained Kenneth Copeland.
 
WWell if the spirit leads me to I can impart the spirit on them however if he does not then I cannot do anything about it
I wish he gave me the laying of hands gift because I have personally experienced it's power before

We may wish for miracles, but we must walk by faith (2Cor. 5:7).
 
WWell if the spirit leads me to I can impart the spirit on them however if he does not then I cannot do anything about it
I wish he gave me the laying of hands gift because I have personally experienced it's power before
It's all the same gift, the Gift of Holy Spirit, as Jesus received from John, and imparted to the 12, they to the 70 and on unto this day.
You don't need a leading to walk in the Spirit, it is required 24/7/365.
Putting a limit on Him misses the mark and maybe a lame excuse.
 
It's all the same gift, the Gift of Holy Spirit, as Jesus received from John, and imparted to the 12, they to the 70 and on unto this day.
You don't need a leading to walk in the Spirit, it is required 24/7/365.
Putting a limit on Him misses the mark and maybe a lame excuse.
Well what I mean is I do not force anything when it comes to him I follow the flow of the spirit it is not that I do not walk in the spirit it is just there are certain gifts that I simply do not have at least for now I have received visions of some kind of anointing on me where I was full blowwn and I mean really deeply and richly filled with the spirit I am talking fire coming from my lips when I spoke life just flooding out of my body wherever I went the spirit being felt by anyone I was near kind of stuff.

However as of right now this is not always the case and anything I do or say has to be on his terms not mine when he says so not when I want it. so to follow him you have to surrender yourself and your will you go where he ghoes do what he says to do when he says to not when we want it or think we should that is not following the spirit that is doing what I desire and what I will not what he does.
 
I always do, Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, people of the world are prone to being deceived.
I respect that, truly I do. But when false teachers/prophets number in the thousands, You have to bring absolute proof to the table. No one will believe you otherwise.
 
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Well what I mean is I do not force anything when it comes to him I follow the flow of the spirit it is not that I do not walk in the spirit it is just there are certain gifts that I simply do not have at least for now I have received visions of some kind of anointing on me where I was full blowwn and I mean really deeply and richly filled with the spirit I am talking fire coming from my lips when I spoke life just flooding out of my body wherever I went the spirit being felt by anyone I was near kind of stuff.

However as of right now this is not always the case and anything I do or say has to be on his terms not mine when he says so not when I want it. so to follow him you have to surrender yourself and your will you go where he ghoes do what he says to do when he says to not when we want it or think we should that is not following the spirit that is doing what I desire and what I will not what he does.

Well, when the Lord closes one door, it is no sin to see if the other one will open wide when you push a little.
 
I respect that, truly I do. But when false teachers/prophets number in the thousands, You have to bring absolute proof to the table. No one will believe you otherwise.


We aren't required to be successful in worldly terms, we are required to be faithful and obedient in Biblical respect.
Outward form Christians look through a worldly lens, love of the world is hatred to God.
 
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