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Thanks for your response. I'm bringing an open mind to your answer and see if it lines up with the question, but before I do that, I have two questions, so no time is wasted.
1. Do you really believe in the Flat Earth and this isn't some sort of parody for a cheap laugh? Maybe I'm missing the joke, so just want to confirm this.
2. You honestly believe you answered the questions about the flights close to Antarctica in the video, and that you specifically directed your answer to those flight or flights?
I'm serious about this discussion, just want to make your sure serious about your answers. Please answer simply with a yes or no. I think these questions should be easily be answered with a yes or no.
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Jesus literally whipped the money changers.
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
https://biblehub.com/john/2-15.htm
You've made this abundantly clear, for you do not follow the Holy Words of Paul.
2 Timothy 2:25 NLT - "Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth."
I am, however, going to follow the Holy Words of Paul and walk away from sharing with you. I find your "way" to be distasteful and upsetting.
2 Timothy 2:25 NLT - "Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth."
I am, however, going to follow the Holy Words of Paul and walk away from sharing with you. I find your "way" to be distasteful and upsetting.
We are to follow the footsteps of Christ AFTER he was hauled away, not before.
1 Peter 2:21-24 NKJV - "For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth"; 23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed [Himself] to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed."
We have never been called to "whip people." Good grief.
1 Peter 2:21-24 NKJV - "For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth"; 23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed [Himself] to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed."
We have never been called to "whip people." Good grief.
Your understanding is quite narrow. Would you say, your a New Testament only Christian? I would like to know what church you attend, so I can get a better understanding on where your misguided doctrines come from.
Do you think Soloman was a wise man?
To Everything There Is a Season
1To everything there is a season,
and a time for every purpose under heaven:
2a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to break down and a time to build,
4a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5a time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6a time to search and a time to count as lost,
a time to keep and a time to discard,
7a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
https://biblehub.com/bsb/ecclesiastes/3.htm
Did not Samson have the Spirit of God in him?
14 When Samson[a] arrived at Lehi, the Philistines came shouting to meet him. Then the Spirit of the Lord rushed upon him, so that the ropes that bound him were like flax that’s been burned by fire, and his bonds dissolved. 15 He happened upon a jawbone from a putrefying donkey, reached out to grab it, and killed 1,000 men with it. 16 Then Samson declared,
“With a jawbone from the donkey—
here a heap, there a pair of heaps—[b]
with the jawbone of the donkey
I’ve killed 1,000 men.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges 15:14-16&version=ISV
Yes, I am a serious flat earther. Yes, I answered your questions to the best of my ability.
I'll echo what another flat earth truther once said: We can see the deception behind the globe, but that doesn't mean we have all the answers to everything.
However, if you carefully consider the materials I posted for you with an open mind, I think you will come away with just a bit of a new perspective.
I'll echo what another flat earth truther once said: We can see the deception behind the globe, but that doesn't mean we have all the answers to everything.
However, if you carefully consider the materials I posted for you with an open mind, I think you will come away with just a bit of a new perspective.
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A "geostationary satellite" is a balloon that is hanging in one spot. Others are in motion, following the circular paths of the jet streams over the flat earth disk. Others have guidance systems and propulsion. This technology is sophisticated. We're not talking hot air balloons in the lower atmosphere.
This is covered in material on this site:
https://www.theflatearthpodcast.com/must-see-videos/
This is covered in material on this site:
https://www.theflatearthpodcast.com/must-see-videos/
Fair enough. It might take me some time to get back to you with my conclusions of your defence of the flat earth model, but will look at it, and try to honestly see your perspective in light of the question asked.
I do hope for a mercy killing of the flat earth theory, that would put a smile on my face, but need to fair and try to be unbiased. It's gonna be difficult, yet fun at the same time to see where this leads me. lol
Might also post this scenario in my newly found concave hollow earth forum, so someone else could do the work. lol We shall see.
I do hope for a mercy killing of the flat earth theory, that would put a smile on my face, but need to fair and try to be unbiased. It's gonna be difficult, yet fun at the same time to see where this leads me. lol
Might also post this scenario in my newly found concave hollow earth forum, so someone else could do the work. lol We shall see.
Take your time, friend. After all, you have been taught one thing for a whole lifetime, like we all were. This site is a good place to slake your curiosity.
https://www.theflatearthpodcast.com/must-see-videos/
No one flat earther has all the answers, so you've got to take the good and leave the bad, but this is absolutely the best serious flat earth site I have encountered and a lot of the truly great serious flat earthers have videos here.
I used this site as a branching out point and looked up individual flat earthers' channels and websites from here when I wanted more information.
https://www.theflatearthpodcast.com/must-see-videos/
No one flat earther has all the answers, so you've got to take the good and leave the bad, but this is absolutely the best serious flat earth site I have encountered and a lot of the truly great serious flat earthers have videos here.
I used this site as a branching out point and looked up individual flat earthers' channels and websites from here when I wanted more information.
Not really, with believing in the Bible, I have learned to discredit much of what I have been taught over the years. With my fairly recent change to the concave hollow earth theory belief (about 7 years), been slowly building evidence, and tested a different view point for awhile.
Actually bought a small beginners telescope, and feel like a joined the propeller had society. lol
Actually bought a small beginners telescope, and feel like a joined the propeller had society. lol
believe me, i could be much ruder. the venom of asps is under all our tongues - weren't you earlier boasting about be one of a gang of scoffers in a youtube comment feed? what measure you want to be judged by, you ought judge. or judge not: yet tell the season by the observation of it.
@jstats you said there are commercial flights from Sao Paulo to Addis Abiba
you think that is evidence the earth is flat.
however if the earth is flat that is not possible with a 747
i checked: Ethiopian airlines offers regular one-way flights between the two, on a Boeing 787, for about $1,000
they say the flight time is ~ 1hr
what do you think about the fact your 'flight time proof' actually proves the earth isn't flat? and corroborates globe-earth cosmology?
- latitude longitude of Sao Paul airport:
- Latitude: S 23° 33' 1.9'' Longitude: W 46° 37' 59.9''
- latitude longitude of Addis Ababa airport:
- Latitude: N 8° 58' 50.2'' Longitude: E 38° 45' 27.9''
- distance if the earth is flat:
- 9,264.5mi
- distance if the earth is round:
- 6,177.3mi
- range of a Boeing 787:
- 7,305mi
@jstats you said there are commercial flights from Sao Paulo to Addis Abiba
you think that is evidence the earth is flat.
however if the earth is flat that is not possible with a 747
i checked: Ethiopian airlines offers regular one-way flights between the two, on a Boeing 787, for about $1,000
they say the flight time is ~ 1hr
- that's more than 125% of the maximum range of the plane so wow they must be crazy does everyone die every time?? - if the earth is flat
- that's well within the range if the earth is a globe
- the average speed of the plane is 772mph if the earth is flat and 514mph if the earth is a globe - not taking any account for acceleration, deceleration or holding-pattern/taxi/boarding times
- a Boeing 787 has max speed of 593mph
- wow they must be crazy huh
what do you think about the fact your 'flight time proof' actually proves the earth isn't flat? and corroborates globe-earth cosmology?
you cannot physically carry enough fuel to keep a balloon in a equatorial or equatorial-skew flight path above a flat earth.
on FE you need constant propulsion to stay at altitude plus constant propulsion to move about in a huge circle, with constant centrifugal propulsion to keep steering.
above the actual earth you take advantage of curvature & lack of atmospheric drag at high altitudes, reach a certain speed at a certain height, and then just fall. you need no more fuel but to make adjustments to your height once in a while from the small amount of friction in the sparse space.
you can't even orbit any balloon for the amount of time actual satellites are readily observed to stay in orbit in the real world.
and that's not even touching on the subject of polar-orbit satellites - of which there are many, mostly weather and military surveillance. on a flat earth this is impossible altogether, but you can go out in your back yard and literally watch dozens every night, wherever you are - i will give you a link to an app if you want.
it is easy to be fooled from your recliner in your basement looking at youtube all night. but balloons cannot possibly explain the observations you or i or anyone on earth can make if you just go outside and look up.
speaking of, you have not explained sunrise or sunset yet.
i have.
why don't you make a point to get up in the AM and watch the sun; tell me if it does what FE predicts or what a orb-earth predicts?
such a simple test. such a readily apparent truth.
on FE you need constant propulsion to stay at altitude plus constant propulsion to move about in a huge circle, with constant centrifugal propulsion to keep steering.
above the actual earth you take advantage of curvature & lack of atmospheric drag at high altitudes, reach a certain speed at a certain height, and then just fall. you need no more fuel but to make adjustments to your height once in a while from the small amount of friction in the sparse space.
you can't even orbit any balloon for the amount of time actual satellites are readily observed to stay in orbit in the real world.
and that's not even touching on the subject of polar-orbit satellites - of which there are many, mostly weather and military surveillance. on a flat earth this is impossible altogether, but you can go out in your back yard and literally watch dozens every night, wherever you are - i will give you a link to an app if you want.
it is easy to be fooled from your recliner in your basement looking at youtube all night. but balloons cannot possibly explain the observations you or i or anyone on earth can make if you just go outside and look up.
speaking of, you have not explained sunrise or sunset yet.
i have.
why don't you make a point to get up in the AM and watch the sun; tell me if it does what FE predicts or what a orb-earth predicts?
such a simple test. such a readily apparent truth.
Furthermore, the YT channel for which the group was commenting, it was a "worldly" group. Not one person was bad-mouthed. We were simply executing remarkable humor. For the duration of likely an hour and a half, no one was ever offended or harmed. We attacked no one . . . and like I said, this was a "worldly" group.
You know, back in the day when I was drinking, I could enter a bar and begin a friendly chat with just about anyone there. And who were they? Likely alcoholics just like myself. We could talk about virtually anything; anything at all and I don't ever recall there being any hostility shared. But at this place? Man, if a Christian wants to be verbally assaulted, this is the place to come.
Congrats for making CC miserable.
You know, back in the day when I was drinking, I could enter a bar and begin a friendly chat with just about anyone there. And who were they? Likely alcoholics just like myself. We could talk about virtually anything; anything at all and I don't ever recall there being any hostility shared. But at this place? Man, if a Christian wants to be verbally assaulted, this is the place to come.
Congrats for making CC miserable.
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