Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people
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In the very center exist a triangle, and a right triangle. Trigonometry at its finest
Just joking
Jesus said whenever the word of God you plant it in your heart Satan comes immediately in order to seek to take that word out of your heart. Mk 4:15 also says resist the devil and he will flee from you. Jm 4:7 If the devil and we're meaning that includes all his kingdom of darkness spirits yes demons didn't seek to bring you down into defeat why then did Paul say for we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can make your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand. Eph 6:10
Having said that though don't let that get you down....you're supposed to think of yourself as on the offence NOT the defense. Jesus said he was building his chruch and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Matt 16:18 Many tend to think yeah when the devil attacks we will survive any attack.....actually we're the ones attacking HIS GATES.....his kingdom through prayer, intercession, declaring and decreeing things In Jesus Name. It's the devil's gates that won't prevail. It's not heaven's gates are being attacked and HANG ON! No! We're to have a mental state of being victors and embracing any other way of thinking is an insult to God.
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can make your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand. Eph 6:10
Having said that though don't let that get you down....you're supposed to think of yourself as on the offence NOT the defense. Jesus said he was building his chruch and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Matt 16:18 Many tend to think yeah when the devil attacks we will survive any attack.....actually we're the ones attacking HIS GATES.....his kingdom through prayer, intercession, declaring and decreeing things In Jesus Name. It's the devil's gates that won't prevail. It's not heaven's gates are being attacked and HANG ON! No! We're to have a mental state of being victors and embracing any other way of thinking is an insult to God.
In the very center exist a triangle, and a right triangle. Trigonometry at its finest
hi, i do not see it i guess. there seem to be alot of triangles when i looked for them though.
that could be good. also maybe a vote for like -- a prayed/asked about it for a month and this is what i think God said -- write in your answer...
That is my point, this spectrum is completely broken down in literally hundreds of triangles that each represent a sine-cosine-tangent in each numerical value.
But as pointed out, the center is the sole focus of the Right Triangle.
Genesis tells us life is a wager God predestined.
Consider this.
After God created everything including the garden where he wanted the tree of knowledge, he declared it all very good. Not perfect.
If Adam and Eve were meant to live as created, no fall of humankind, God would not have called very good the creation that he predestined for fall.
We know that was predestined not just because a forbidden tree was planted by God in the garden but because before creation God wrote a book of the names of those whom he would call to salvation.
Before there existed anything to be saved or saved from.
Proverbs 16:9
If Satan is the Adversary of God, why did God let him live after the war in that other place of paradise, Heaven? And why did he then allow Satan to be Lord of this world after he insured sin would enter here through Satan's being allowed to tempt Eve? Who then tempted the man by whom sin entered the world?
Sin could only exist where the law exists.
God's first law.
Thou shalt not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge God created.
You, I, every person, are God's puppets. Living all that God predestined by his will and for his glory.
The thing is, there are those who shall read this and go on the defensive.
Because they believe in the Bible. But oddly enough they can't accept what God tells them about himself.
There is nothing in existence that was created by anything other than God.
Let's not let the left have any part of this. It just wouldn't be right.
Some people will go on the defensive about predestination your right, i know some people will get realy upset about that one, and some consider it heresy. but to be honest people protect the nature of God in many ways (with i cant see God being that way) but dont in other ways, the amount of times i hear this is a doctrine from satan not from God is high. especially the doctrine that says a christian can lose there salvation. Or if i was to ask does God allow christians to be oppressed by demons, most christians will say no God does not allow that one, demons do that one on there own accord. Then you say hang on a minute didnt you say demons obey God. there seems to be a stark contrast for many issues in our bible that leave you puzzled, Like this one you mentioned God created everything. but yet this suggests other wise.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
This is indicating darkness was already here above and theres indication in other places(like Jesus saying Satan was a murderer in the beginning) , but theres also a stark contrast to suggest other wise in other parts of the bible, (like i the lord created calamity, but then theres a stark contrast for that,,(like i the lord is not the author of confusion). Theres seems an argument a confliction for everything, but sadisticness is something christians would say is a doctrine from satan, but at the end of day who really wants knowledge of all good and evil ?,,, talking about darkness all the time unless you know how to over come fear and see the light really can start to mess with your head ater a while. perhaps the reason why we get oppressed by evil in the form of temptation or denomic attacks, demons do it to bring there fear or there talk into the world, through us they rule out of fear, and then its not so much we have come to know all knowledge of Good and evil of our own accord but something that is forced upon many. We see the preachers who become obsessed with the hell speach and preach it over and over again, witnessing someone that way inclined is like witnessing a devil. I guess the reason why so many churches just do prayers and read Good parts only from the bible.
Demons oppressing christians and making them worry and nervous is something most christians will become protective of and immeadiately support that person, but to a demon that is glorified temptatation, because he knows when the person become full of anxiety or nervouse there more likely to sin out of fear, The hihgest reason for sin i would say is proving they have to do sometheing that there not scared etc. (glorified temptation i call it, and the bible is riddled with acts of sin that in my oppinion has been commited out of Gloryfied temptation. Satan gloryfies temptation in the person he is tempting in many ways, like how beautiful it would be to experience drugs, or are you afraid to lose your life. do you call your self a man ? are you scared ? the pleasure of good feeling is your reward.
Or in other cases demons totaly gain controll of a persons mind. even children, they hate children, and can have a child so mentally ill by time theyve finished with them that the child takes there own life. because after a demon has got a child to mess up they then scare them with punishment, out of a fear a child kills them self or run away. children can so easily develop a trauma or panic (nervous disorder,
Demons dont really care about that and i have witnessed it.
As for predestination, its a topic thats good in some ways but horrible in other ways. it can sound quite cruel to some as well can be soul destroying and demoralising for a person.. personally and this is my belief that the horrible side of predestination comes and happens to a person who is demon possessed( and there are billions of people i fear are possesed). This is my belief that satan and his cronies have all knowledge of abilities and suernatural powers as written in the bible, and are able to set the course in a persons life they possess(but not on the authority of God). its not untill the a person hands his life over to Jesus that you come into a better pre destination. there is something to prdestination because ive had the dreams in my sleep that come real befor today.
Your spelling is spot on, sir!
Yes, I must admit, it was rather tedious trying to read his OP!
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Hi to you beautiful Christians, May the lord bless you and keep
so I just found an online spell checker, hope this helps. The thing i didn't like about the online spell checker was it gives Satan a capital letter,, oh well... what I can say other than there seems to be a lot of that going on here,
This topic is a bit of a pain really, so many people claiming they know more than others, thus claiming they know Satan better than other people, when they really do not, its seems to get derailed in many places this thread, A Christian getting seen as bad for pointing out the ways of Satan, has to be a crime for me. Wow, you know we really are in trouble, any ways.
Some people will go on the defensive about predestination, I know some people will get really upset about that one, and some consider it heresy. But to be honest people protect the nature of God in many ways (with I can't see God being that way) but don't protect the nature of God in other ways, the amount of times I hear this is a doctrine from Satan not from God is high. Especially the doctrine that says a Christian can lose their salvation. Or if I was to ask does God allow Christians to be oppressed by demons, most Christians will say no God does not allow that one, demons do that one on their own accord. Then you say hang on a minute, didn't you say demons obey God. There seems to be a stark contrast for many issues in our bible that leave you puzzled, like this one you mentioned God created everything. But yet this suggests otherwise.
1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
This is indicating darkness was already here above and there's indication in other places (like Jesus saying Satan was a murderer in the beginning), but there's also a stark contrast to suggest otherwise in other parts of the bible, (like i the lord created calamity, but then there's a stark contrast for that, (like i the lord is not the author of confusion). There's seems an argument a confliction for everything, a sadistic nature is something Christians would say is a doctrine from Satan, but at the end of the day who really wants knowledge of all good and evil ?,,, talking about darkness all the time unless you know how to overcome fear and see the light really can start to mess with your head after a while. Perhaps the reason why we get oppressed by evil in the form of temptation or demonic attacks, demons do it to bring their fear or their talk into the world, through us, they rule out of fear, and then It's not so much we have come to know all knowledge of Good and evil of our own accord but something that is forced upon many. We see the preachers who become obsessed with the hell speech and preach it over and over again, witnessing someone that way inclined is like witnessing a devil. I guess the reason why so many churches just do prayers and read Good parts only from the bible.
Demons oppressing Christians and making them worry and nervous is something most Christians will become protective of and immediately support that person, but to a demon that is glorified temptation, because he knows when the person become full of anxiety or nervous there more likely to sin out of fear, The highest reason for sin i would say is proving they have to do something that there not scared etc. (glorified temptation i call it, and the bible is riddled with acts of sin that in my opinion has been committed out of Glorified temptation. Satan glorifies temptation in the person he is tempting in many ways, like how beautiful it would be to experience drugs, or are you afraid to lose your life. Do you call your self a man ? Are you scared ? The pleasure of good feeling is your reward.
Or in other cases, demons totally gain control of a person's mind. Even children, they hate children, and can have a child so mentally ill by the time they've finished with them that the child takes their own life. Because after a demon has got a child to mess up they then scare them with punishment, out of a fear a child kills them self or run away. Children can so easily develop a trauma or panic (nervous disorder).
Demons don't really care about that, and I have witnessed it.
As for predestination, it's a topic that's good in some ways but horrible in other ways. It can sound quite cruel to some, as well can be soul-destroying and demoralizing for a person. Personally, and this is my belief, that the horrible side of predestination comes and happens to a person who is demon possessed(and there are billions of people I fear are possessed). This is my belief that Satan and his cronies have all knowledge of abilities and supernatural powers as written in the bible, and are able to set the course of a persons' life they possess(but not on the authority of God). it's not until the person hands his life over to Jesus, it is only then you come into a better pre destination. There is something to pr destination because I've had the dreams in my sleep that come real before today.
Hi to you beautiful Christians, May the lord bless you and keep
so I just found an online spell checker, hope this helps. The thing i didn't like about the online spell checker was it gives Satan a capital letter,, oh well... what I can say other than there seems to be a lot of that going on here, This topic is a bit of a pain really, so many people claiming they know more than others, thus claiming they know Satan better than other people, when they really do not, its seems to get derailed in many places this thread, A Christian getting seen as bad for pointing out the ways of Satan, has to be a crime for me. Wow, you know we really are in trouble, any ways.
Some people will go on the defensive about predestination, I know some people will get really upset about that one, and some consider it heresy. But to be honest people protect the nature of God in many ways (with I can't see God being that way) but don't protect the nature of God in other ways, the amount of times I hear this is a doctrine from Satan not from God is high. Especially the doctrine that says a Christian can lose their salvation. Or if I was to ask does God allow Christians to be oppressed by demons, most Christians will say no God does not allow that one, demons do that one on their own accord. Then you say hang on a minute, didn't you say demons obey God. There seems to be a stark contrast for many issues in our bible that leave you puzzled, like this one you mentioned God created everything. But yet this suggests otherwise.
1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
This is indicating darkness was already here above and there's indication in other places (like Jesus saying Satan was a murderer in the beginning), but there's also a stark contrast to suggest otherwise in other parts of the bible, (like i the lord created calamity, but then there's a stark contrast for that, (like i the lord is not the author of confusion). There's seems an argument a confliction for everything, a sadistic nature is something Christians would say is a doctrine from Satan, but at the end of the day who really wants knowledge of all good and evil ?,,, talking about darkness all the time unless you know how to overcome fear and see the light really can start to mess with your head after a while. Perhaps the reason why we get oppressed by evil in the form of temptation or demonic attacks, demons do it to bring their fear or their talk into the world, through us, they rule out of fear, and then It's not so much we have come to know all knowledge of Good and evil of our own accord but something that is forced upon many. We see the preachers who become obsessed with the hell speech and preach it over and over again, witnessing someone that way inclined is like witnessing a devil. I guess the reason why so many churches just do prayers and read Good parts only from the bible.
Demons oppressing Christians and making them worry and nervous is something most Christians will become protective of and immediately support that person, but to a demon that is glorified temptation, because he knows when the person become full of anxiety or nervous there more likely to sin out of fear, The highest reason for sin i would say is proving they have to do something that there not scared etc. (glorified temptation i call it, and the bible is riddled with acts of sin that in my opinion has been committed out of Glorified temptation. Satan glorifies temptation in the person he is tempting in many ways, like how beautiful it would be to experience drugs, or are you afraid to lose your life. Do you call your self a man ? Are you scared ? The pleasure of good feeling is your reward.
Or in other cases, demons totally gain control of a person's mind. Even children, they hate children, and can have a child so mentally ill by the time they've finished with them that the child takes their own life. Because after a demon has got a child to mess up they then scare them with punishment, out of a fear a child kills them self or run away. Children can so easily develop a trauma or panic (nervous disorder).
Demons don't really care about that, and I have witnessed it.
As for predestination, it's a topic that's good in some ways but horrible in other ways. It can sound quite cruel to some, as well can be soul-destroying and demoralizing for a person. Personally, and this is my belief, that the horrible side of predestination comes and happens to a person who is demon possessed(and there are billions of people I fear are possessed). This is my belief that Satan and his cronies have all knowledge of abilities and supernatural powers as written in the bible, and are able to set the course of a persons' life they possess(but not on the authority of God). it's not until the person hands his life over to Jesus, it is only then you come into a better pre destination. There is something to pr destination because I've had the dreams in my sleep that come real before today.
i see light beams, in a way, if i squint... which i wouldnt have if i wasn't looking at it more to try to see a triangle. lol
then later i came across a picture that i just happened to have saved on my phone that reminded me of the light beams. i'll post it here ...........
i see light beams, in a way, if i squint... which i wouldnt have if i wasn't looking at it more to try to see a triangle. lol
then later i came across a picture that i just happened to have saved on my phone that reminded me of the light beams. i'll post it here ...........
well, i said squint, but i see now it's more like letting your eyes go out of focus or something.......... try that.
"The thing is, there are those who shall read this and go on the defensive.
Because they believe in the Bible. But oddly enough they can't accept what God tells them about himself."
website i came across this morning:
https://www.prophecyrefi.org/ , https://www.prophecyrefi.org/about-us/
In reality, both election and freewill are true. Both are true.
The debate incorrectly centers on "either<>or"
Same with osas.
Salvation is a irrevokeable covenant that man finds a way to screw up like he does most everything else.
The human mind is the center of osas and predestination.
Both are approached and built upon mentally.
Really it is too bad....but people are fickle like that with God.
Man revokes his own salvation.