When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?
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That's right...plug your ears and get in that echo chamber. Let's just pretend the 10 tribes are totally lost in the murky waters of the gene pool, ignore what the Khazars did in history, and then believe that Judah's DNA was preserved somehow (cryogenics?) for almost 2,000 years. History and common sense say otherwise, though.
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Prophecy is conditional, as in the case of Jonah. Literal Israel failed to get it straight, and now Spiritual Israel that we can see will be the recipient of those promises, according to Romans 15.
However, Literal Israel that has disappeared into the murky waters of the polluted global gene pool is lost. Good gravy, the Samaritans were only 500 year old "half breeds" by the time of Jesus, and the Jews wanted nothing to do with them...what about 1,500 more years of genetic displacement and dilution?
However, Literal Israel that has disappeared into the murky waters of the polluted global gene pool is lost. Good gravy, the Samaritans were only 500 year old "half breeds" by the time of Jesus, and the Jews wanted nothing to do with them...what about 1,500 more years of genetic displacement and dilution?
Nah, God had nothing to do with 1948 for two reasons: Jesus' murderers had never repented as a nation, and those people over there are proven to be the descendants of the pagan Khazarian Empire, a truth that will be declared "debunked" only by themselves and the deluded Christians who are duped into supporting them financially and otherwise.
Support Christ and His people, the true "Abraham's seed" which is the Christian church, according to Galatians 3:29 KJV
I notice all you guys do is post OT promises to Israel which their unbelief prevented from being fulfilled by God, but never address Galatians 3:29 KJV, which totally disproves your position.
Support Christ and His people, the true "Abraham's seed" which is the Christian church, according to Galatians 3:29 KJV
I notice all you guys do is post OT promises to Israel which their unbelief prevented from being fulfilled by God, but never address Galatians 3:29 KJV, which totally disproves your position.
You spelled Khazars J-E-W-S. If you're going to be a student of prophecy, you're going to have to be a student of true history, not Revisionist Historian "Jews" who have a vested interest in debunking anything that will shut off that free flowing cash pipeline from disillusioned Christians.
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The trouble is not with God...but with low information Christians who don't understand that the only way a "literal nation of Israel" can appear on Earth now would be for God to perform a miracle because all literal descendants of Abraham have been lost through 2,500 years of displacement, slavery, rape, intermarriage, etc., of what was once Abraham's literal descendants...
...and also their failure to understand the plainly seen establishment of Spiritual Israel spoken of over and over in the NT ,which too is quite troubling.
...and also their failure to understand the plainly seen establishment of Spiritual Israel spoken of over and over in the NT ,which too is quite troubling.
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And this my friends is anti-semitism the murders of jesus as he says.
No man takes my life but i lay it down said jesus.
You have a hatred for the jews my friend and it will not go well with you.
Must be hard for you to pray to the hebrew God and have a jewish savior but you hate his people.
No man takes my life but i lay it down said jesus.
You have a hatred for the jews my friend and it will not go well with you.
Must be hard for you to pray to the hebrew God and have a jewish savior but you hate his people.
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Gal 3 29
Paul has just described the incredible position of his Christian readers in Galatia. They, like all saved Christians, are full children of the Almighty God. They have been baptized into God's Spirit. They have put on Christ and are so completely covered by Him as to be fully identified by the Father with Christ. Finally, in Christ, they have equal value in the eyes of God, no matter their ethnicity, gender, or social status.
Now he brings this part of his case to a close by bringing it back to his earlier statement that believers in Jesus are also Abraham's offspring and heirs of the promises given to him by God (Galatians 3:7–9). More specifically, Christ is the ultimate offspring of Abraham. All the promises of God made to Abraham and his offspring flow to Christ. That's why, by being in Christ, covered by Him, identified with Him, we also become Abraham's children and heirs.
Our position before God, Paul insists, has nothing to do with following the law and everything to do with being in Christ. We have everything in Him, and nothing without Him.
Now where does it say the church is spiritual israel.???
Paul has just described the incredible position of his Christian readers in Galatia. They, like all saved Christians, are full children of the Almighty God. They have been baptized into God's Spirit. They have put on Christ and are so completely covered by Him as to be fully identified by the Father with Christ. Finally, in Christ, they have equal value in the eyes of God, no matter their ethnicity, gender, or social status.
Now he brings this part of his case to a close by bringing it back to his earlier statement that believers in Jesus are also Abraham's offspring and heirs of the promises given to him by God (Galatians 3:7–9). More specifically, Christ is the ultimate offspring of Abraham. All the promises of God made to Abraham and his offspring flow to Christ. That's why, by being in Christ, covered by Him, identified with Him, we also become Abraham's children and heirs.
Our position before God, Paul insists, has nothing to do with following the law and everything to do with being in Christ. We have everything in Him, and nothing without Him.
Now where does it say the church is spiritual israel.???
I assure you I hate no one.
Jesus, my Semitic Savior, loves all people and commands His disciples to love them too, according to the many wonderful Semitic authors of my favorite book - a Semitic book: the Holy Bible...a Semitic book which contains many accounts of great Semitic men like David, Samuel, Elijah, etc., who, in my opinion, are the greatest of all the great heroes of history, and I plan to spend eternity with them as my Semitic companions in Heavenly Canaan.
So, now that you know, would you stop with this redonkulous accusation, please?
Jesus, my Semitic Savior, loves all people and commands His disciples to love them too, according to the many wonderful Semitic authors of my favorite book - a Semitic book: the Holy Bible...a Semitic book which contains many accounts of great Semitic men like David, Samuel, Elijah, etc., who, in my opinion, are the greatest of all the great heroes of history, and I plan to spend eternity with them as my Semitic companions in Heavenly Canaan.
So, now that you know, would you stop with this redonkulous accusation, please?
In context, the body of believers in Christ are Abrahams descendants.
Paul said, "Has God cast away his people that he foreknew?" Look at his answer. He uses himself as an example,
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts ofIsrael, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. Isa.11:12
I have chosen you out of the world, Jn.15:19
to Abraham.....the covenant.....was confirmed before of God in Christ Gal.3:16-17
Your point....your point, was how "seeds" refers to the nations of the world, but in that passage, Paul is using "seeds" only refering to Abrahams physical descendants, contrasting the two covenants. Hello?
I'm wide awake,
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him Eph.1:10
I'm trying to get you to see that when God call Abraham to leave Ur, he was "calling him out" (ekklēsia) of the world.
Paul said, "Has God cast away his people that he foreknew?" Look at his answer. He uses himself as an example,
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts ofIsrael, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. Isa.11:12
I have chosen you out of the world, Jn.15:19
to Abraham.....the covenant.....was confirmed before of God in Christ Gal.3:16-17
Your point....your point, was how "seeds" refers to the nations of the world, but in that passage, Paul is using "seeds" only refering to Abrahams physical descendants, contrasting the two covenants. Hello?
I'm wide awake,
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him Eph.1:10
I'm trying to get you to see that when God call Abraham to leave Ur, he was "calling him out" (ekklēsia) of the world.
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Lol
you just proved your continued lack of faith
all of northern Israel was destroyed and scattered by assyria, yet we know God kept a remnant, there were representatives off all then in Judah, up until 70 ad.
if God could spare them then, he could do it now.
I do not have to look for ten tribes I just have to have Faith if God said he will keep a remnant so they will never be lost that he can and will
your lack of faith is here for all to see
you just proved your continued lack of faith
all of northern Israel was destroyed and scattered by assyria, yet we know God kept a remnant, there were representatives off all then in Judah, up until 70 ad.
if God could spare them then, he could do it now.
I do not have to look for ten tribes I just have to have Faith if God said he will keep a remnant so they will never be lost that he can and will
your lack of faith is here for all to see
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We have been here before,
you never respond to the passages in Genesis, so we can not even begin any kind of true discussion.
I am not playing this silly game,either respond to the passages in genesis where god not only promised all the world will be blessed through abrahams seed (Christ) which is the context you are discussing which I agree with
and yet also give one child and his descendents a plot of land (Canaan) as an eternal gift, throughout all of their generations
until you can show me how the two are not separate parts of one covenant, we have nothing more to discuss, because your on one context, and rejecting the other context, and we can never come to an agreement,
you never respond to the passages in Genesis, so we can not even begin any kind of true discussion.
I am not playing this silly game,either respond to the passages in genesis where god not only promised all the world will be blessed through abrahams seed (Christ) which is the context you are discussing which I agree with
and yet also give one child and his descendents a plot of land (Canaan) as an eternal gift, throughout all of their generations
until you can show me how the two are not separate parts of one covenant, we have nothing more to discuss, because your on one context, and rejecting the other context, and we can never come to an agreement,
I showed you
Romans 11.15.
For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
You see that they are to be accepted? it is there in black and white ... life from the dead is resurrection.
You will read in Daniel 12 how that after Michael stands up and delivers Israel from the great tribulation that is when the first resurrection takes place. Only they do not [like the church] go to meet the Lord in the clouds the shine here on earth as bright as the firmament and win souls.
Romans 11.15.
For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
You see that they are to be accepted? it is there in black and white ... life from the dead is resurrection.
You will read in Daniel 12 how that after Michael stands up and delivers Israel from the great tribulation that is when the first resurrection takes place. Only they do not [like the church] go to meet the Lord in the clouds the shine here on earth as bright as the firmament and win souls.