Is YOUR church doctrinal statement ONE with SATAN?

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There are two manuscript lines that DIFFER greatly in what they say. One of them came from the Vatican's anus and the other is uncorrupted version.

I can't believe you said translations aren't grapes. SMH The two vines in the bible are the vine of Christ and the vine of Sodom. Remember Jesus said I am the VINE and ye are the branches? Well the vine of Sodom IS NOT the vine of Christ. The vine NOURISHES the branches.... do you see what I mean? The bible nourishes OUR SPIRIT. I can't make it any clearer.
Is that the best that you can do? What does that have to do with the thread's topic?
 
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"We used to all speak the same KJV language for 400 years" is absurd. The KJV language was obsolete even in it's own time. They intentionally used archaic English to make the text seem holy, rather than translating into the common language of the time.
It never was a contemporary language because the TRUMPET has to make a DISTINCT SOUND. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this, you don't understand anything I'm saying. And what I just said is straight out of the bible.
 
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My point is that highly qualified people have an agenda. They work for the god of this world.
Gee, that says it all, doesn't it? Now I understand... you have no respect for highly qualified people. You would rather pay attention to every whim of those who claim to be experts, even though they are unqualified.

If you can't be reasoned with by intelligent people why don't you join a different forum?
 
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It never was a contemporary language because the TRUMPET has to make a DISTINCT SOUND. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this, you don't understand anything I'm saying. And what I just said is straight out of the bible.
Well then, use a different translation. Maybe that will help.
 
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Well then, use a different translation. Maybe that will help.
And there lies the problem, that symbolism isn't maintained in the newer versions. You will never know what I know without the King James bible.
 

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"Of course, you could not. Since you could not be bothered by being corrected and reproved by the truth in it. You are a like a lot of modern Christians today, who answer a matter before they actually hear it. "

Were you unable to read your own words in the post of yours that I quoted?
Dino, what I stated there is true. I don't see anything in what I stated there that would be of a self righteous attitude. We all have to receive correction at times, and that is why we have God's inerrant word today. So that it can help us, comfort us, and rebuke and afflict us when it is needed.
 

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God didn't "show indifference toward finishing His Bible". He finished it through the pen of John, who wrote down the Revelation.
And He continued His preservation of His word into other tongues and languages also. And He finished His word through allowing it to be translated into the English tongue. And we have it today in the King James Holy Bible.
 
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Gee, that says it all, doesn't it? Now I understand... you have no respect for highly qualified people. You would rather pay attention to every whim of those who claim to be experts, even though they are unqualified.

If you can't be reasoned with by intelligent people why don't you join a different forum?
I learn a lot from this forum.
 
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KJV1611, what is your purpose here? You have made one attempt after another to hype the KJV and discredit all other translations. Why do you strain out a gnat and swallow a camel?

There are many of us on this forum who believe strongly in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit and follow Jesus' instructions on how to live, how to relate to others, and how to make the world a better place.

If you can't discern the body of Christ but instead go on and on and on about a single translation I feel very sorry for you.

Your rage toward others in the body of Christ is not Christian behavior!
 

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God speaks more than one language, I hope you know. He also has more than one way of doing things such as "preservation, and translation of His holy word".

Indeed, I understand that God speaks in more than one language, and that includes English. He chose to finished and completely perfect His word in the English language.
 

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You mean you and the people in the video?
I mean everyone on this earth today. The perfect and infallible word of God in the King James Holy Bible is available to absolutely anybody who is searching and seeking for it.

Do you know these people or just follow them?
If you know them, are they willing to back Scripture for Scripture against the materials that the KJV Bible was interpreted from?

It would be really easy to show you about 50 errors within the KJV that claims something else from the materials they were translated from!

I know brother G. John Rov who is doing the main teaching in the video.

Biker, there are no errors in the KJV. Not even one error has ever been found in the KJV.
 

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Did Jesus have a complete Bible from which to quote? No.
That is because the Holy Scriptures were not completed yet. Only the Old Testament was completed during the time of Christ.

Today though, we do have a perfect and completed Bible to read from, study from, learn from and preach from. Hallelujah!
 

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You can "mean" all you like, but you're not making your point from Scripture. Scripture does not say, "The Bible must not contradict itself". That's an imposition of human reasoning. I'm not saying it's wrong or bad, but it is not Scripture.
Dino, does God ever contradict Himself???

Now come on, let's use some common sense here. If God does not contradict Himself, then likewise His word also must not contradict itself either.
 
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KJV1611, what is your purpose here? You have made one attempt after another to hype the KJV and discredit all other translations. Why do you strain out a gnat and swallow a camel?

There are many of us on this forum who believe strongly in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit and follow Jesus' instructions on how to live, how to relate to others, and how to make the world a better place.

If you can't discern the body of Christ but instead go on and on and on about a single translation I feel very sorry for you.

Your rage toward others in the body of Christ is not Christian behavior!
I'm here to learn and help others with what I've learned. I'm not enraged, I just speak exactly what's on my mind and I don't sugar coat it. I have nothing against you nor anybody else on this forum.

People need to hear an alternative to the garbage that you're putting out. All I can do is show them, if they don't buy it then I've still done my part. So step down off of that high moral horse that you're riding. You are no better or worse than me, we are all sinners that fall short of the glory of God.
 

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There are many translations of the Biblical texts, some with different emphases than others. None of them are perfect.
Your mindset, Jaybo, is not scriptural. God's Scriptures say that His word is very pure and that His Law Is perfect (Psa. 119:140, Psa. 19:7)
 
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I mean everyone on this earth today. The perfect and infallible word of God in the King James Holy Bible is available to absolutely anybody who is searching and seeking for it.



I know brother G. John Rov who is doing the main teaching in the video.

Biker, there are no errors in the KJV. Not even one error has ever been found in the KJV.
There are errors in the KJV. New manuscripts have been found since 1611 that give a much more accurate understanding of what the Biblical texts say than they had 400+ years ago. Even the KJV translators said in their preface that their translation was not perfect; they expected it to be changed over time, which indeed it has.

Why are you so adamant that a single translation ordered by a King to make the Bible to conform to what he said Christianity should be is the ultimate translation?
 
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I'm here to learn and help others with what I've learned. I'm not enraged, I just speak exactly what's on my mind and I don't sugar coat it. I have nothing against you nor anybody else on this forum.

People need to hear an alternative to the garbage that you're putting out. All I can do is show them, if they don't buy it then I've still done my part. So step down off of that high moral horse that you're riding. You are no better or worse than me, we are all sinners that fall short of the glory of God.
Personal insults will get you nowhere. They show where your heart is, despite your claim that you're here to learn and help others with what I've learned.

I will not respond in kind, as I am a Christian.
 

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When the definition of BEGOTTEN is a child from 2 parents or a purpose put into place, we can see how the KJV makes us think wrongfully concerning God and the WORD. Begotten either means someone existed BEFORE the other, or it means a purpose was put into place for a reason. By all technicality, the term BEGOTTEN removes co-eternal and co-equal. And that leads to "now what does that mean for the Trinity?" KJV dropped the ball.

The KJV did not drop the ball at all, Biker. The phrase "begotten" is the correct phrase. And it does not at all, remove the Co-eternal and Co-equal nature and deity which Jesus Christ always had possessed in Eternity past.

Begotten simply means that Jesus the Word of God had been
begotten in time to become the Son of Man.

The Word became flesh when it was begotten in time. Jesus the Word of God was begotten as the Son of Man in time.

Just as the Holy Scripture also had been born into time from Eternity past. For more on this unique relationship, go and view the thread:

"Jesus and the Bible both Came into time as a SEED."


Because in 1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
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We were never physically born of God, but we are definitely BEGOTTEN of God for His Purpose!

We are spiritually born of God:

1 John 3:9-10 KJV
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. {10} In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
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Your mindset, Jaybo, is not scriptural. God's Scriptures say that His word is very pure and that His Law Is perfect (Psa. 119:140, Psa. 19:7)
The King James Version is neither pure nor perfect, only God is perfect.
 
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Personal insults will get you nowhere. They show where your heart is, despite your claim that you're here to learn and help others with what I've learned.

I will not respond in kind, as I am a Christian.
You asked me why I was here and I told you and I'm not personally insulting you I'm telling you the truth. You are telling people that their bible is WRONG and that IS NOT the truth.