CESSATIONISM AND HEALING
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Do you realize sir, the person who comes to faith in CHRIST, should come to faith in HIM FIRST and foremost because of HIS WORK alone and the fact that because of HIS WORK alone they are reconciled/restored to GOD? They are made whole in that moment...
After that, if they become sick, (which is more the result of our fallen and imperfect world) they will come to HIM, because they already KNOW HIM...and will ask for healing....BUT...they will not neglect their responsibility to care for their body by doing what they are capable and able to do...Which is go to a doctor, who, by the way, has this expertise BECAUSE GOD has given him/her that gift/talent..
After that, if they become sick, (which is more the result of our fallen and imperfect world) they will come to HIM, because they already KNOW HIM...and will ask for healing....BUT...they will not neglect their responsibility to care for their body by doing what they are capable and able to do...Which is go to a doctor, who, by the way, has this expertise BECAUSE GOD has given him/her that gift/talent..
Christians may claim to be healed by either doctors or miracles through gifted healers or prayers of elders etc but if the personal faith in "Christ's blood which heals" is missing, God is not pleased. Why? God wants every Christian to fulfil the great commission to proclaim the good news of Christ's blood, to all nations. Without the above personal faith, the good news can't be proclaimed.
NO. Sir...you should...since you are so concerned for them, it is you who should go talk to THOSE christians. Be careful of your heart, sir...more importantly...because, already, since you scorn these who are supposedly doing these things, you really can´t talk to them and point them to Christ...
But for you to come here, thinking you can drop off this responsibility on other CHRISTIANS, no...you can´t do that either...
You can pray for them, though,...that GOD will heal them...
That is what you can do....
But for you to come here, thinking you can drop off this responsibility on other CHRISTIANS, no...you can´t do that either...
You can pray for them, though,...that GOD will heal them...
That is what you can do....
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Without "whose" personal faith ? And in what faith. . where does it come from ?
Its personal faith in His Spirit that dwells in the believers body of death. Same kind of body Jesus lived in .No profit for flesh and blood without the Spirit. .
Literal blood without the spirit has no purpose other that a one time demonstration. That demonstration is over. God is not a man .
No man standing behind the 70 ft. high veil that represented the fleshly foreskin of the Son of man(the first born our bloody husband The faithless Jews hoped a Wizard world appear and destroy all the gentiles
The atheistic Jew found out they were no longer in the land of Oz. Back to earthly Jerusalem as Kansas . Oz lost its value when Jesus said it is finished . The new heavens and earth are on the other side of the rainbow , No limbo in between.
Its personal faith in His Spirit that dwells in the believers body of death. Same kind of body Jesus lived in .No profit for flesh and blood without the Spirit. .
Literal blood without the spirit has no purpose other that a one time demonstration. That demonstration is over. God is not a man .
No man standing behind the 70 ft. high veil that represented the fleshly foreskin of the Son of man(the first born our bloody husband The faithless Jews hoped a Wizard world appear and destroy all the gentiles
The atheistic Jew found out they were no longer in the land of Oz. Back to earthly Jerusalem as Kansas . Oz lost its value when Jesus said it is finished . The new heavens and earth are on the other side of the rainbow , No limbo in between.
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My point is I believe I am alive because God can use me for His plan and His purpose. Otherwise I would have been dead a long time ago. This reinforces the point you made that God heals us to use us for the Great Commission. I know I have been to the ends of the Earth and now a new generation is taking the good news to the ends of the earth. Only this is the Great Harvest so this will be the last Great Move of God in this regard. That is why people in the past looked forward to this day and people in the future look back on the time we are in right now.
I am pretty sure they used real blood on the door post for the first passover and it worked for them. Today we need to use the Blood of Jesus on the doorpost to keep the Coronavirus out of our house, business or nursing homes. I am not sure what the symbol of the bat is though. This virus started out being something the miners got sick from when they were mining tin to mix with copper to make bronze tools and weapons of war. The mines where they found the bats had writing where man had been in those caves they say 7,000 years ago.
Actually even with a literal reading the Bible does use real blood in the temple. This is why Jesus is the Lamb of God. Every Hebrew letter is a symbol and has meaning. The Bible talks about shadows and types. A modern word they are using is paradigm and that is a pattern. Also they use words like Archetypes. This is why they say a day in Genesis is a literal 24 hour day, sun rise and sunset. Quantum Physics uses the term Event Horizon. Hidden in that day is all time and all ages.