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Good question... I have no idea ...just joking ..
I should have not brought it up..no one sees it ...I tire of being the lone wolf on this view.
I should have not brought it up..no one sees it ...I tire of being the lone wolf on this view.
James and Paul are perfectly compatible. They are just opposing two different errors
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That snake bite scene in the above video almost killed the man Cody Coots because it nearly severed the temporal artery.
Son of pastor killed by snake during sermon is bitten by deadly snake during sermon
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/17/son-...tten-deadly-snake-sermon-7850798/?ito=cbshare
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/
Son of pastor killed by snake during sermon is bitten by deadly snake during sermon
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/17/son-...tten-deadly-snake-sermon-7850798/?ito=cbshare
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/
Regarding snakes and vipers and being protected from them, Martin Luther suggested that “the signs here spoken of are to be used according to need. When the need arises, and the Gospel is hard-pressed, then we must definitely do these signs, before we allow the Gospel to be maligned and knocked down.”
I see snakes and vipers as a metaphor for evil people and the poison as being their false teaching that poisons people minds. The apostles would come into contact with these people on a fairly regular basis.
I see snakes and vipers as a metaphor for evil people and the poison as being their false teaching that poisons people minds. The apostles would come into contact with these people on a fairly regular basis.
Hi DW, in the same passage addressing the same believers Paul writes as follows:
1 Corinthians 15
34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
Think about that. Think about how much is contained in such a short verse that expounds so much light on what we have been endlessly debating for years.
>Written to the church
>telling them to awake to righteousness (Some here would claim they are already righteously settled, so why would they now have to awake to righteousness?)
>Do not sin (Some here would say sin no longer exists. Some would say "DO NOT SIN" means works salvationism). Yet Paul writes to the church "Do Not Sin".
>Paul equates those who don't understand these matters as "Not having the knowledge of God". How many here argue and kick against these very matters. Yet Paul writes that these don't have knowledge of God. I can, based on my observations and debates here, fully understand what Paul is pointing out to the church. I mean it not as an arrogant standpoint at all. Its actually exasperation that the body of believers cannot see this. It breaks my heart.
>Paul rounds off with "I speak this to your shame". Yes - it is shameful that we have this doctrine in amongst the believers. Ignorance as to the potential dangers lurking at the door. Its the same warning God gave to Cain in Genesis 4 " 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is [d]for you, but you should rule over it.”
We have been given the EQUIPPING to RULE OVER IT. He is the Holy Spirit of Grace. You no longer need to present your body as an instrument of unrighteousness. Paul wasn't wallowing in the mire once he received the life in the Spirit. Neither do you have to. You can RULE OVER IT.
1 Corinthians 15
34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
Think about that. Think about how much is contained in such a short verse that expounds so much light on what we have been endlessly debating for years.
>Written to the church
>telling them to awake to righteousness (Some here would claim they are already righteously settled, so why would they now have to awake to righteousness?)
>Do not sin (Some here would say sin no longer exists. Some would say "DO NOT SIN" means works salvationism). Yet Paul writes to the church "Do Not Sin".
>Paul equates those who don't understand these matters as "Not having the knowledge of God". How many here argue and kick against these very matters. Yet Paul writes that these don't have knowledge of God. I can, based on my observations and debates here, fully understand what Paul is pointing out to the church. I mean it not as an arrogant standpoint at all. Its actually exasperation that the body of believers cannot see this. It breaks my heart.
>Paul rounds off with "I speak this to your shame". Yes - it is shameful that we have this doctrine in amongst the believers. Ignorance as to the potential dangers lurking at the door. Its the same warning God gave to Cain in Genesis 4 " 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is [d]for you, but you should rule over it.”
We have been given the EQUIPPING to RULE OVER IT. He is the Holy Spirit of Grace. You no longer need to present your body as an instrument of unrighteousness. Paul wasn't wallowing in the mire once he received the life in the Spirit. Neither do you have to. You can RULE OVER IT.
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