Not By Works
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Faith alone,not saved by works,when we confess Christ for that is all we can do.
When we receive the Spirit then faith without works is dead,and a person is justified by works,and not faith alone.
Charity is greater than faith,and faith works by love,and love is the fulfilling of the law.
Paul said if a person does not have charity,love in action,works,then they are nothing,and they have erred from the faith,which he says the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy,James said if they do not have charity,love in action,works,then their faith is dead,which he points out if they have the means to feed and clothe the poor and they do not do it they do not have faith,and John said if they do not have charity,love in action,works,the love of God does not dwell in them,and points out if they see a person have need,and does not help them they are not right with God,and says love not in word only,but in deed and in truth.
Paul says charity does not think an evil thought,and does not rejoice in iniquity,but rejoices in the truth,abstains from sin by the Spirit,and is not unkind,not selfish,not arrogant,and only goes by their needs,and not their wants,and helps the poor and needy with their needs.
That is why the Bible warns against not having love,for some people err concerning that,which we see in society the lack of love,and love is greater than faith,and faith means nothing without love,for true faith has the proper perspective of God and His Kingdom.
The Bible says God wants all people to be saved,and many are called but few are chosen,so they should understand the scriptures.
Sin separates people from God,and we can have the Spirit to help us to not sin,for a person that hates sin,and does not want sin,by the Spirit they can abstain from sin,so there is no excuse,and if they sin it is because they want to sin,because they could choose the good and not the evil.
When a husband and wife are married,and the husband cheats on the wife,he broke the covenant that is between them,and they can divorce,and no longer a part of each other's life.
If a person that confesses Christ does not have love,and holding unto sin,they have broken the covenant with God,and no longer part of the family until they stop holding unto sin,and be led of the Spirit.
That is why the Bible tells the saints not to be highminded,but fear,for if God did not spare those in the Old Testament,then take heed lest He also not spare you,for if you do not continue in the goodness of God you will also be cut off.
And do not depart from the living God,by the deceitfulness of sins.
That is why Paul wrote the Lord knows them that are His having this seal,that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity,and awake to righteousness,and sin not,but not all have the knowledge of God,and he speaks that to their shame.
But when you are dealing with people that like to hear it according to the flesh they do not want to hear,hence the long dragged out not saved by works thread.
Which the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,and points out their sins,that they think they are right with God despite holding unto sins.
And it would appear that people that believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,would fall under that category,which you can see it in society,especially going by their wants,according to their lusts,and fleshy pleasures.
When we receive the Spirit then faith without works is dead,and a person is justified by works,and not faith alone.
Charity is greater than faith,and faith works by love,and love is the fulfilling of the law.
Paul said if a person does not have charity,love in action,works,then they are nothing,and they have erred from the faith,which he says the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy,James said if they do not have charity,love in action,works,then their faith is dead,which he points out if they have the means to feed and clothe the poor and they do not do it they do not have faith,and John said if they do not have charity,love in action,works,the love of God does not dwell in them,and points out if they see a person have need,and does not help them they are not right with God,and says love not in word only,but in deed and in truth.
Paul says charity does not think an evil thought,and does not rejoice in iniquity,but rejoices in the truth,abstains from sin by the Spirit,and is not unkind,not selfish,not arrogant,and only goes by their needs,and not their wants,and helps the poor and needy with their needs.
That is why the Bible warns against not having love,for some people err concerning that,which we see in society the lack of love,and love is greater than faith,and faith means nothing without love,for true faith has the proper perspective of God and His Kingdom.
The Bible says God wants all people to be saved,and many are called but few are chosen,so they should understand the scriptures.
Sin separates people from God,and we can have the Spirit to help us to not sin,for a person that hates sin,and does not want sin,by the Spirit they can abstain from sin,so there is no excuse,and if they sin it is because they want to sin,because they could choose the good and not the evil.
When a husband and wife are married,and the husband cheats on the wife,he broke the covenant that is between them,and they can divorce,and no longer a part of each other's life.
If a person that confesses Christ does not have love,and holding unto sin,they have broken the covenant with God,and no longer part of the family until they stop holding unto sin,and be led of the Spirit.
That is why the Bible tells the saints not to be highminded,but fear,for if God did not spare those in the Old Testament,then take heed lest He also not spare you,for if you do not continue in the goodness of God you will also be cut off.
And do not depart from the living God,by the deceitfulness of sins.
That is why Paul wrote the Lord knows them that are His having this seal,that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity,and awake to righteousness,and sin not,but not all have the knowledge of God,and he speaks that to their shame.
But when you are dealing with people that like to hear it according to the flesh they do not want to hear,hence the long dragged out not saved by works thread.
Which the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth,and points out their sins,that they think they are right with God despite holding unto sins.
And it would appear that people that believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,would fall under that category,which you can see it in society,especially going by their wants,according to their lusts,and fleshy pleasures.
R
Exactly. That's what I've been saying.
Corrupt trees are not saved trees. If they were, they wouldn't be corrupt.
Fruitless people don't get to go into the kingdom because they are not saved, their corruption testifying to the fact they are not saved.
The new grace doctrine in the church says they are saved, just as long as they believed some time in the past.
Corrupt trees are not saved trees. If they were, they wouldn't be corrupt.
Fruitless people don't get to go into the kingdom because they are not saved, their corruption testifying to the fact they are not saved.
The new grace doctrine in the church says they are saved, just as long as they believed some time in the past.
R
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5273&t=KJV
What are the two Greek words that make up the word hypocrite?
What is the correct understanding and application of the word that somehow makes it so fake, phony, and false 'actors' won't be destroyed when Jesus comes back?
The new grace doctrine in the church says they will be saved (just as long as they believed some time in the past). Jesus said they will go to the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. Who should we believe?
What are the two Greek words that make up the word hypocrite?
What is the correct understanding and application of the word that somehow makes it so fake, phony, and false 'actors' won't be destroyed when Jesus comes back?
The new grace doctrine in the church says they will be saved (just as long as they believed some time in the past). Jesus said they will go to the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. Who should we believe?
R
The new grace doctrine says the person who says they are a Christian but who does not live for Christ (a hypocrite) is still saved despite his ungodly, even now unbelieving life.
But this is what Christ says...
"suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."-Matthew 24:48-51
Works do matter. The person who says they are a Christian but who does not live a new life will not be saved when Jesus comes back.
Works not only show that we believe and are saved, but that we are continuing to believe. If we don't endure to the end we will not be saved in the end. The new grace doctrine says that doesn't matter because salvation is not by works, and once you are saved you can not lose your salvation. In that doctrine, not even hypocrisy can keep you out of the kingdom, even though Christ said it will.
Works do matter. They don't get you saved, but they do show you to be saved. Just as not having works shows you to not be saved.
But this is what Christ says...
"suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."-Matthew 24:48-51
Works do matter. The person who says they are a Christian but who does not live a new life will not be saved when Jesus comes back.
Works not only show that we believe and are saved, but that we are continuing to believe. If we don't endure to the end we will not be saved in the end. The new grace doctrine says that doesn't matter because salvation is not by works, and once you are saved you can not lose your salvation. In that doctrine, not even hypocrisy can keep you out of the kingdom, even though Christ said it will.
Works do matter. They don't get you saved, but they do show you to be saved. Just as not having works shows you to not be saved.
R
Works salvation and sinless perfection are surely false doctrines. But so is saying works don't matter to salvation because salvation is not by works, and because you can't lose your salvation. We need to lead them to the truth, not to another error.
Note, I'm not challenging your once saved always saved belief itself. I'm challenging the teaching that says you don't have to do works because you can't lose salvation.
Note, I'm not challenging your once saved always saved belief itself. I'm challenging the teaching that says you don't have to do works because you can't lose salvation.