Understanding God’s election
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To the Calvinites, fallen man expressing or manifesting FAITH is forbidden, and an outrage.
So is seeking Jesus, desiring Jesus, coming to Jesus, overcoming, confessing sin etc etc.
All if it "works" they say, all of it IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIES the petitioner from salvation.
All forbidden to ANYBODY that THEY SAY has not won the pre-birth lottery by which they FIRST OF ALL must be qualified to be saved.
There is NOTHING men can do they say. No hope, no repentance, no salvation, no nothing.
But this Calvinite dogma does NOT comport with the salvation of Adam and Eve, which is the pattern of all who come afterward.
Or the rest of the Bible either.
So that being said, and in light of Scripture, is Calvinite-ism an abhorrent heresy?
And another thing: is Satan pleased with the Calvinite heresy? I bet that he is. Very pleased.
So is seeking Jesus, desiring Jesus, coming to Jesus, overcoming, confessing sin etc etc.
All if it "works" they say, all of it IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIES the petitioner from salvation.
All forbidden to ANYBODY that THEY SAY has not won the pre-birth lottery by which they FIRST OF ALL must be qualified to be saved.
There is NOTHING men can do they say. No hope, no repentance, no salvation, no nothing.
But this Calvinite dogma does NOT comport with the salvation of Adam and Eve, which is the pattern of all who come afterward.
Or the rest of the Bible either.
So that being said, and in light of Scripture, is Calvinite-ism an abhorrent heresy?
And another thing: is Satan pleased with the Calvinite heresy? I bet that he is. Very pleased.
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There you go genius. Figure it out for yourself. I have already provided ample commentary earlier which you have ignored.
You have NO IDEA of the interpretation and types of this parable. Just to let you know.
[Luk 10:30 KJV]
And Jesus answering said, A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.
You have NO IDEA of the interpretation and types of this parable. Just to let you know.
[Luk 10:30 KJV]
And Jesus answering said, A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.
Only in your addled mind.
A native on an island who hears about Jesus from the testimony of a missionary and believes him is SAVED.
No bible, no commentaries, no systematic theology, no voluminous libraries, no nothing.
And certainly no "critical understanding" of Eph 2:5.
I have heard testimony from Pastor Joe Focht about 2 young women heroin addicts who walked into his Church, heard the gospel, believed it, got saved......and BOTH died the next day from overdoses. Were they saved?
Did they possess a "critical understanding" of Eph 2:5?
You ghoulish Calvinites set up impenetrable barriers to salvation. In fact a TOTALLY impenetrable barrier.
And you wouldn't have it any other way.
A native on an island who hears about Jesus from the testimony of a missionary and believes him is SAVED.
No bible, no commentaries, no systematic theology, no voluminous libraries, no nothing.
And certainly no "critical understanding" of Eph 2:5.
I have heard testimony from Pastor Joe Focht about 2 young women heroin addicts who walked into his Church, heard the gospel, believed it, got saved......and BOTH died the next day from overdoses. Were they saved?
Did they possess a "critical understanding" of Eph 2:5?
You ghoulish Calvinites set up impenetrable barriers to salvation. In fact a TOTALLY impenetrable barrier.
And you wouldn't have it any other way.
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Yeah, I know those verses and you're totally wrong! Those verses speak of a true believer's responsibility to share the gospel.
I'm not going to take the time and effort to parse your verses for you because you probably wouldn't be able to grasp it anyway, but
the verses @brightfame52 and I posted unquestionably show that it is God (alone) who gives someone spiritual life that was completely spiritually dead.
I'm not going to take the time and effort to parse your verses for you because you probably wouldn't be able to grasp it anyway, but
the verses @brightfame52 and I posted unquestionably show that it is God (alone) who gives someone spiritual life that was completely spiritually dead.
Last comment for you. Titus 3 1-11
3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. 9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Have yourself a great future, you and the non listening slander team of accusation and false witness.
3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. 9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Have yourself a great future, you and the non listening slander team of accusation and false witness.