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Niki7

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Please, read your Bible daily. Every page, every word. Stop this automatic writing! Repent of your vanity in thinking God has chosen you for a purpose you have not prepared for. And if God has called you, why have you not prepared yourself? I'm sorry, but it breaks my heart reading your confusion and delusions! I will pray that the Holy Spirit will deal with these dangerous delusions you have. And I don't mean this as an insult. I truly care about you, and I am stunned to see how far you have fallen from God, while claiming to be a modern day prophet!
I've been around a while, saved very young, and one thing I have noticed is that young Christians especially will develop this idea that they are special and God has called them for purposes above and beyond the experience of most saved people. (certainly not all, but a surprising number...I kid you not) It never ends well. God plants seeds. He does not plant entire trees. God creates and it takes time.

So much I could say about this, but the Holy Spirit does not come prepackaged...just add presumption and mix.

Have you read 'War on the Saints'? One thing Penn-Lewis makes very clear is that passivity is the playground for demonic influence. Christians should be actively pursuing God and not floating around looking for good feelings.

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look at this account of Jeremiah the prophet, which is exactly how Blain has described his life.

This sketch of Jeremiah’s life portrays him as a courageous and persistent prophet who often had to endure physical suffering for his fidelity to the prophetic call. He also suffered inner doubts and conflicts, as his own words reveal, especially those passages that are usually called his “confessions” (Jeremiah 11:18–12:6; 15:10–21; 17:9–10, 14–18; 18:18–23; 20:7–12, 14–18). They reveal a strong conflict between Jeremiah’s natural inclinations and his deep sense of vocation to deliver Yahweh’s message to the people. Jeremiah was by nature sensitive, introspective, and perhaps shy. He was denied participation in the ordinary joys and sorrows of his fellowmen and did not marry. He thus could say, “I sat alone,” with God’s hand upon him. Jeremiah had periods of despondency when he expressed the wish that he had never been born or that he might run away and live alone in the desert. He reached the point of calling God “a deceitful brook,…waters that fail” and even accused God of deceiving and overpowering him. Yet there were times of exaltation when he could say to God, “Thy words became to me a joy and the delight of my heart,” and he could speak of Yahweh as “a dread warrior” fighting by his side.

As a prophet, Jeremiah pronounced God’s judgment upon the people of his time for their wickedness. He was concerned especially with false and insincere worship and failure to trust Yahweh in national affairs.
Yeah. This is a copy/paste. It's not about Blain though.
 
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There is such a thing as a word of knowledge. Which may be given to a person to speak. This does not mean that person is a prophet.
Blain has always had dreams and visions and seems sincere in his efforts to express them.
Given his health issues and possible medication he may need could enhance his state of mind.
Scripture tells us not to lay hands suddenly on any man.
Scripture also tells us nothing is new under the sun. Also...not by power nor by might but by my spirit says the Lord...not worship. Just a few things to think about.
No one persues the life of a prophet nor is the calling accepted with gladness, it is very dangerous.
Imo i think it best to study the life of a prophets and there out come before making conclusions.
 
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Niki7

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There is such a thing as a word of knowledge. Which may be given to a person to speak. This does not mean that person is a prophet.
Blain has always had dreams and visions and seems sincere in his efforts to express them.
Given his health issues and possible medication he may need could enhance his state of mind.
Scripture tells us not to lay hands suddenly on any man.
Scripture also tells us nothing is new under the sun. Also...not by power nor by might but by my spirit says the Lord...not worship. Just a few things to think about.
No one persues the life of a prophet nor is the calling accepted with gladness, it is very dangerous.
Imo i think it best to study the life of a prophets and there out come before making conclusions.
You think no one wants to be prophet? Sorry, but check again. It is one of the most chosen professions of charismatics these days...you can find them all over the net.

I'm sorry but you have chosen several verses out of context and are seemingly applying to the op of this thread.

It's not really working. An actual prophet (according to the NT now since we are no longer Israelites being led by a class of priests and have but one High Priest, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is sacrificed once and for all and whose blood is on the mercy seat heaven (I disagree with those that say that is only figurative but I digress) would not be in conflict with scripture.

How do you apply the verse I have highlighted above? In what context?

Yes to the word of knowledge...sadly though, many have taken this to the next level where it becomes something tantamount to fortune-telling. The gifts have been (pardon the word here) prostituted and we need more than ever the actual gifting of God through His Spirit. Does not come with shivers and jello and sparkly whizzers for the most part though.
 

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I am curious as to whether you are fellowshipping regularly with a "church?" With COVID, our church stopped meeting, except on Zoom. When it restarted, I had to stop going to church, because if king COVID and my RA meds not working! although I watch my church's services online. Some days I can make it to church, other weeks, not! We are in a small group that meets once a month, but we've had some conflicts with the days the last couple of months & missed that. I literally never missed a service for years! I was involved in many ministries, too! But I am not prophesying about churches. And now that my health prevents me from regular attendance, I make no claim to understand where my church is going, let alone their passion& zeal for God! Or my part in that. My hands have become very deformed from meds not working for many years, and I can't even claim to be on a worship team, anymore, to play my flute & sing. How are you involved in your local church, during COVID and after, and with your health issues? My past memories of you, Blain, were that you rarely attended church, for some very acceptable reasons. So, are you attending a body of Christ, serving in ministry, that you are confident you can speak to "the churches?" "Yes my purpose isn't about me or anything it is for the church it is for a wake up call a rise to be the body that we once were." This is a quote from you above. You claim directly to have a purpose to call the church to be the body that it once "was!" When was this mythical time when the church "was" once ?! Was what? How is the church different? How do you know this if you don't attend church? Or if you attend church, that is only one local church in one place. How can you speak for all these churches you know nothing about? "My resolve is absolute even the church itself complains about the state of the itself many believers often say how churches have become watered down how there is no real passion or zeal for God" Ok, I cut into this incredibly long run-on sentence. Paul wrote a lot of long sentences in Greek. But you can get away with it in Koine Greek because of the cases & the use of many clauses! You can't get away with a run-on sentence that long in English! Now, you are claiming the church ITSELF is saying no one has no real passion or zeal for God! How do you know this? I know of many churches with a deep passion for God. I have a friend from seminary, he's a Cuban pastor and being persecuted by the state for his faith. He says the church is growing by leaps & bounds in his country. He and his fellow pastors are planting churches weekly, that grow wonderfully. People are hungry to know Jesus Christ, after 80 years of an atheistic, communist government! Every time he sends in a paper he has written for a class, the special police interrogate him! He knows everything going on in all the evangelical churches in Cuba, because he is a pastor, works with pastors, and is almost finished his credentials which validate his work. He is highly respected by his colleagues and congregation! You are limited yourself to some American churches where you live. If you attend at all. God is not without witnesses. He is in control. His church will prevail. I'm not saying it's a bad or wrong idea to encourage and help the churches in North America! But I do wonder how you can do that, unless you are not only established in a church, but working in intercity church councils, reading and researching methods, techniques that the Holy Spirit can use to start what must be a revival. I don't think there is another word that would imply stirring up God's people than a revival! One of my professors, a missionary to Indonesia on a furlough, joined the council of churches in my local city. He was the only evangelical churchman there, except the imam from the local mosque. (This, according to the imam!) It was all mainline & apostate churches. But he felt it was worthwhile to connect with this radically lost community. Have you been involved in something like this? If not, how do you know where the churches in your area are at? Are you in contact with many Evangelical pastors, or do you think you will be a one man show? How can you have a mission to churches you know nothing about? Do you think the Holy Spirit is going to intervene, tell you everything about all churches, so you can fulfill your purpose? Seriously, you would have utterly no credibility. People harass me for my education, but part of the reason God had pushed me to get a biblical & theological education, is to have the bona fide credibility of having studied to show myself approved. (2 Tim 2:15) Plus, the working experience to show you have paid your dues. You want to have some unverifiable experiences as the foundation for being a prophet to the churches? Blain, this is the definition of grandiosity. It is mental illness, pure & simple. Delusional, in fact! Sigh! It is heart breaking to hear you speak, when you don't realize that because your revelations do conflict with the word of God, it means you are a false prophet. As much as you deny the mantle of prophecy, you still are claiming you are a prophet. Please, read your Bible daily. Every page, every word. Stop this automatic writing! Repent of your vanity in thinking God has chosen you for a purpose you have not prepared for. And if God has called you, why have you not prepared yourself? I'm sorry, but it breaks my heart reading your confusion and delusions! I will pray that the Holy Spirit will deal with these dangerous delusions you have. And I don't mean this as an insult. I truly care about you, and I am stunned to see how far you have fallen from God, while claiming to be a modern day prophet!
![/QUOTE] Sorry for the late reply I was in the hospital luckily I did manage to meet a case manager there so that is a good thing. Now I will try to answer as best as I can I was not able to read your entire post it was hurting my eyes to much so I will try to answer what I can.. There is no church I can go to in my current state but when my health wasn't so bad I did attend a church for a while and spoke with many different people and enjoyed deep bible study with several elders but circumstances made it where it was to farr away to go so I attenbeded different churches here and there some of them were decent one of them actually amazed me as the second you stepped into that building you were slammed with the presence of the holy spirit I intend to speak about it some time in a thread as it is a story that is amazing but eventually I was unable to go there too for lack of a ride so I have seen the state of many different churches and most of them fit the bill of what I have been saying about the church but I have already been lead to speak to two different churches and both times God just took over and I just spoke the words as if it was pouring out of my mouth you could see how people were being affecting they even clapped and cheered at the end it was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen to see God impact people in such a way just remembering it my eyes are starting to tear up

This was when I was suddenly changed I just felt different I can now always feel his presence in me all the time I am on a different frequency with him now.

This was when I consered the state of the churches I saw and when I considered the actual truth of God his word and the kingdom. I then got on my knees in my room kneeled before him so low that I couldn't go any lower and I completely surrendered to him begging to know the truth This was the first time out of the four times his presence suddenly filled my room like a thick soup to bask in his presence like that you you suddenly understand the kingdom of God you feel a combination of different things you want to sing praise and honor to him with every fiber of your being while wanting to kneel before in reverence not uttering a word just honoring him and revering him as king and Lord your enveloped in warmth and love and also a sensation I don't quite know how to explain or call it it is a part of him I have never experienced before.

Things like this were only the beginning as I continued to go on a new journey with him seeing and experiencing and learning things I never knew or was blind to suddenly I could see the truth

I cannot say I was sudden;y ready to just come on here declare I was a prophet give a prophecy and say everything I have in fact it was quite hard on me but I obeyed because I made him my Lord and king and I take his orders seriously.

Many have issues with the things I say but the thing is I actually get results. I speak of the things of the kingdom I am constantly telling people here what God is trying to get us to listen to I am always trying to get people to go to the level he is calling us to it is time to really get serious and make our resolve with him

He isn't messing around anymore and neither am I im done playing games here I won't accept the status quo I won't be the average Christian I am going or the truth I am going or the kingdom and i people actually listen they will know his wonder and glory
Did it ever cross anyones minds that all the testimonies I have given o my experiences with him all the fruits I have spoken of just might actually be the real deal?

you reap what you sow and if my reaping has been bountiful it would be wise to consider what I am sowing
 

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Ive always been fascinated by the prophets, How Gods uses them to deliver a message, The prophets to me are also people that have allready been obedient To God in a former life, Jeremiah didn't even know who he was, Until God told him I knew you befor you for born.

My mum told me about the reincarnation of Elijah, when Jesus said if you have seen John the Baptist you have seen Elijah,

What does this mean, well it means blain could have allready been to heaven, and come back.

This means we are truly blessed to recieve word from God, through Blain.

We should be happy for blain, but at the same time share in his tribulations, because all tho he wants to speak with us, God may not be allowing him to, he now sits alone with God.
 

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Joseph Smith's chief complaint was also that all of the churches that existed in his day were false. His Mormon religion was founded on that idea. Actually, every cult that has come into existence starts with a charismatic leader who is convinced that he or she has the true keys. The more things change the more they stay the same.
 

Blain

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This is nonsense. We are told to study in scripture. Maybe go and do that and you will see where we are told to do that. Perhaps Blain was speaking to people who find it a chore to open their Bibles.

What utter unredeeming nonsense!!!
You know I am not sure why but for some reason you never seem to understand what I say. I ntoiced how you highted only a part of my words when if you ntoice right after I spoke about not studying the word I said maybe we arent ready to yet. not to mention I was very open and explained why I came to that conclusion and what made me want to seek the truth but of course that isn't what you saw and you didn't take my post as a whole.

That is exactly what people do with the word of God especially in debates it is a habit and if you do this with just a concersation online how do we know you don't do that with the word of God?

Your just the common debater just another person who only sees with their perception unreachable and cannot be reasoned with I have had my fair share of your type. Your not here to learn or grow your not here for the kingdom and you are just stuck in your mind set. I can't feel his spirit in your words at all you just seem dry Yes I said maybe we should stop studying the word and I suppose I should have been more clear my point is if we want the truth we need to take a break form studying and develope our bond with God first.

I wasn't blind to the inconsistancy that the word has become how divided the body has become and I refuesed to accept it if I was going to read the bible it had to be with his eyes and his alone I wanted to see what the word of God really says what the word of God really is what the truth of the kingdom and of God is but he told me I had to reach this level he is calling us to first and that is exactly the journey I am on with him.

There is a clear difference in the words you and I speak, you are wasting your time and breath on here your constantly in conflict with others and show no fruits of the spirit.

But what am I doing? I am speaking of the things of God I am trying to get people to devote themselves to him in a much deeper way O am trying to take up those who have fallen asleep

Anyone with discernment would pay attention to the fruits being spoken on both sides and decide for themselves by whose spirit we are speaking
 

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You know I am not sure why but for some reason you never seem to understand what I say. I ntoiced how you highted only a part of my words when if you ntoice right after I spoke about not studying the word I said maybe we arent ready to yet. not to mention I was very open and explained why I came to that conclusion and what made me want to seek the truth but of course that isn't what you saw and you didn't take my post as a whole.

That is exactly what people do with the word of God especially in debates it is a habit and if you do this with just a concersation online how do we know you don't do that with the word of God?

Your just the common debater just another person who only sees with their perception unreachable and cannot be reasoned with I have had my fair share of your type. Your not here to learn or grow your not here for the kingdom and you are just stuck in your mind set. I can't feel his spirit in your words at all you just seem dry Yes I said maybe we should stop studying the word and I suppose I should have been more clear my point is if we want the truth we need to take a break form studying and develope our bond with God first.

I wasn't blind to the inconsistancy that the word has become how divided the body has become and I refuesed to accept it if I was going to read the bible it had to be with his eyes and his alone I wanted to see what the word of God really says what the word of God really is what the truth of the kingdom and of God is but he told me I had to reach this level he is calling us to first and that is exactly the journey I am on with him.

There is a clear difference in the words you and I speak, you are wasting your time and breath on here your constantly in conflict with others and show no fruits of the spirit.

But what am I doing? I am speaking of the things of God I am trying to get people to devote themselves to him in a much deeper way O am trying to take up those who have fallen asleep

Anyone with discernment would pay attention to the fruits being spoken on both sides and decide for themselves by whose spirit we are speaking
A bunch of nothing....but reviling another member
 
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pottersclay

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You think no one wants to be prophet? Sorry, but check again. It is one of the most chosen professions of charismatics these days...you can find them all over the net.

I'm sorry but you have chosen several verses out of context and are seemingly applying to the op of this thread.

It's not really working. An actual prophet (according to the NT now since we are no longer Israelites being led by a class of priests and have but one High Priest, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is sacrificed once and for all and whose blood is on the mercy seat heaven (I disagree with those that say that is only figurative but I digress) would not be in conflict with scripture.

How do you apply the verse I have highlighted above? In what context?

Yes to the word of knowledge...sadly though, many have taken this to the next level where it becomes something tantamount to fortune-telling. The gifts have been (pardon the word here) prostituted and we need more than ever the actual gifting of God through His Spirit. Does not come with shivers and jello and sparkly whizzers for the most part though.
I think you misunderstood what I ment in pursuing a prophet office. It is not something we persue like GOD give me a prophets office. I agree many people think they are some sort of prophet as in the old testament accounts. But we must agree it was not persued. God was the first to establish who he would choose.

As far as 1 tim 5:22 it speaks to the leadership of the church. Just because one does or says this we are not to just except his testimony but to pray and observe.
 

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I think you misunderstood what I ment in pursuing a prophet office. It is not something we persue like GOD give me a prophets office.
Earnestly pursue love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 1 Corinthians 14:1 .:)
 

Blain

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I agree Blain. Here is a part of a prophecy many years ago.

In Christ Alone.

The Lord says -

`It is not the towering ability of individual men that will bring the close of this dispensation to an end, but it will be the ripening, the moulding, the perfecting of a Body of People that will be peculiarly Mine.

There will be no possibility for `flesh` to glory, for all will be interwoven one into the other, and in the centre of them will be the fires of Divine Affection, in the centre of them will be the seeds of Divine Love, in the centre of them will be the deposit of the eternal Purpose of God;

And when that time will come, it will be far greater! - drawing from the earth a people (who have been Mine) in the sense of rapture; it will be the carrying away from the earth of that functional Organ from the realm of Time into its Eternal Setting.`

Prophetic Word (part of) from the Apostolic Convention in Penygroes, 1943.
Prophetic Ministry through Pastor J.D. Eynon.
This is astounding and mind blowing I will have to try to find them again but I have a thread that has all the poems God lead me to write and several of them speak of this exact thing and not mention the vision he gave me a few weeks or so ago where I saw me but it was like I was in hd I looked more realistic than I do now in reality and sudenly as if God and I became one in unity my eyes gowed an intense blue color and I saw a barren land whas this city but it was polluyed and filthy covered in trash even the people there were filthy and covered in trash but they had no idea when suddenly it started softly as if coming from a distance but they all started hearing singing and slowly it became louder and louder until it was so loud everyone instantly turned towards it and there was a army of people envoloped in a gold light walking and singing praise and worship to God every step they took turned the ground into holy ground life sprouted streams flowed of living water consuming the barren land



I would like to again stress how I recieved this prophecy in this thread I stated it was given to me when I was worshipping God
 

Blain

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I think you misunderstood what I ment in pursuing a prophet office. It is not something we persue like GOD give me a prophets office. I agree many people think they are some sort of prophet as in the old testament accounts. But we must agree it was not persued. God was the first to establish who he would choose.

As far as 1 tim 5:22 it speaks to the leadership of the church. Just because one does or says this we are not to just except his testimony but to pray and observe.
My friend I am always impressed with the wisdom you show
 

Blain

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Earnestly pursue love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 1 Corinthians 14:1 .:)
I just wanted to explain something in your responce to potters clay. There is a difference between the gift of prophecy and the office of a prophet prophet. We are to seek the gift of prophecy as it is after all the testimony of Jesus Christ but a prophet is chosen by God beforehand whether they want the position or not it isn't something you get choose or not choose.

There are so many false prophets now wa days that I don't blame people of being skeptical I was for years as I was personally damaged by such so called prophets.

The funny thing is I refused to accept it for so long and yet it didn't matter as I was prophesying even then and didn't realize it. To be honest the discussion of a prophet is a thouchy one but I think it is something worth discussing because it has to be something that is understood.
 
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a new generation of what?
the next phase in this current AGE?
the increasingly noticeable laboring pangs stage before the birth of Wrath?

i highly doubt it will be new incoming members to the Flock of God.
more likely to be older Saints who remember the good ole Revival Days and finally get tired of what's happening in this world and go back to spending HOURS on their knees praying for the Movement of God.
 

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I just wanted to explain something in your responce to potters clay. There is a difference between the gift of prophecy and the office of a prophet prophet. We are to seek the gift of prophecy as it is after all the testimony of Jesus Christ but a prophet is chosen by God beforehand whether they want the position or not it isn't something you get choose or not choose.
Where in the New Testament are the scriptures that teach on the "office" of Prophet? I'm just curious if you get this from the Bible or from some other book or person.
 

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Joseph Smith's chief complaint was also that all of the churches that existed in his day were false. His Mormon religion was founded on that idea. Actually, every cult that has come into existence starts with a charismatic leader who is convinced that he or she has the true keys. The more things change the more they stay the same.
All tho you seem to have something nice about you, I don't think its nice to suggest John the Baptist was a Mormon. All tho it's hard to know what your suggesting.
 

ResidentAlien

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All tho you seem to have something nice about you, I don't think its nice to suggest John the Baptist was a Mormon. All tho it's hard to know what your suggesting.
Why do you think I said John the Baptist was a Mormon? I'm just curious what I said that would give you that idea.