The new generation

[Fundaamental]

I found some more relevance to @Blain prophecy

 

[Angela53510]

you know you are one of the few who has recognized what has been going on and what God has been saying or rather the holy spirit revealed it to you. Yes my purpose isn't about me or anything it is for the church it is for a wake up call a rise to be the body that we once were.

My resolve is absolute even the church itself complains about the state of the itself many believers often say how churches have become watered down how there is no real passion or zeal for God anymore we have all these different denominations different sects and doctrines all claiming to be the truth and from the holy spirit your told to study study study yet no one sees what is wrong here the mere fact that the word of God is divided by perspective even without us realizing it means we arent seeing or understanding the truth.

We look at who Jesus said we are in him what is actually possible we say anything is possible yet lack the proof of it leaving these promises as something that faded in history. we have so many people out there hidden in plain site ignored by the world and the church alike and we don't try to reach them the lost are called the lost for a reason they aren't going to ind or come to us that is why they are lost and I have been considering all this or a while now and much more and inally I was just sick of it and told God if no one else is going to step up to the plate then I will I am going to actually do something about it not complain about it I am not goping to study the word until I am actually ready for it if I am not able to see the truth the real truth then I see no point in recieving a half truth or a truth based on interpretation and I have personally seen the level in which he intends to bring me just a few nights ago I had a dream where his presence flooded a room I was in and he overtook me so strongly that I almost didn't let him it was intense but I said to myself no I wanted to go deeper with him and when I let him overtake me an intense loud and strong winds was blowing all I could hear wass this rushing wind and I actually began to glow in a white and blue light and actually began floating in midair all the while this powerful wind blew and it even was still so strong and loud when I first woke up to.

It was a unison with him as if it was no longer me and him no longer two seperate persons but a closeness a unison as if we were somehow so deeply intertwined that we were one person.

There is a depth and level to him that goes beyond what we know a mystery and wonder of God that is not seen or known by the average believer it is a level with him that literally can alter reality as we know it but it is a position with him not a mere level of faith a position where we leave our old selves our old way of doing things our old way of understanding him and his word going to the heavenly realm the kingdom itself and he has been calling us to this life with him over and over and over again I mean I felt the anger and frustration he had for his stubborn children so while I am still growing in this I am trying to get people to tune into his frequency to listen to what he is saying I mean if people actually looked at the context of what I am saying they would know it isn't me speaking I mean did anyone even take into consideration how I said I recieved this prophetic word? I recieved while being in wirship with him the absolute joy and life that comes from worshipping him just looking insanse bouncing in your chair while singing to him with you heart and soul it is the most amazing thing a beauty and wonder that is the key to unlocking all the promises and secrets of heaven it is the state heart and mind of worship that does it this is what it means to worship in spirit and in truth

I am curious as to whether you are fellowshipping regularly with a "church?" With COVID, our church stopped meeting, except on Zoom. When it restarted, I had to stop going to church, because if king COVID and my RA meds not working! although I watch my church's services online. Some days I can make it to church, other weeks, not! We are in a small group that meets once a month, but we've had some conflicts with the days the last couple of months & missed that. I literally never missed a service for years! I was involved in many ministries, too! But I am not prophesying about churches. And now that my health prevents me from regular attendance, I make no claim to understand where my church is going, let alone their passion& zeal for God! Or my part in that. My hands have become very deformed from meds not working for many years, and I can't even claim to be on a worship team, anymore, to play my flute & sing. How are you involved in your local church, during COVID and after, and with your health issues?

My past memories of you, Blain, were that you rarely attended church, for some very acceptable reasons. So, are you attending a body of Christ, serving in ministry, that you are confident you can speak to "the churches?"

"Yes my purpose isn't about me or anything it is for the church it is for a wake up call a rise to be the body that we once were."

This is a quote from you above. You claim directly to have a purpose to call the church to be the body that it once "was!"

When was this mythical time when the church "was" once ?! Was what? How is the church different? How do you know this if you don't attend church? Or if you attend church, that is only one local church in one place. How can you speak for all these churches you know nothing about?

"My resolve is absolute even the church itself complains about the state of the itself many believers often say how churches have become watered down how there is no real passion or zeal for God"

Ok, I cut into this incredibly long run-on sentence. Paul wrote a lot of long sentences in Greek. But you can get away with it in Koine Greek because of the cases & the use of many clauses! You can't get away with a run-on sentence that long in English!

Now, you are claiming the church ITSELF is saying no one has no real passion or zeal for God! How do you know this? I know of many churches with a deep passion for God. I have a friend from seminary, he's a Cuban pastor and being persecuted by the state for his faith. He says the church is growing by leaps & bounds in his country. He and his fellow pastors are planting churches weekly, that grow wonderfully. People are hungry to know Jesus Christ, after 80 years of an atheistic, communist government! Every time he sends in a paper he has written for a class, the special police interrogate him! He knows everything going on in all the evangelical churches in Cuba, because he is a pastor, works with pastors, and is almost finished his credentials which validate his work. He is highly respected by his colleagues and congregation!

You are limited yourself to some American churches where you live. If you attend at all. God is not without witnesses. He is in control. His church will prevail.

I'm not saying it's a bad or wrong idea to encourage and help the churches in North America! But I do wonder how you can do that, unless you are not only established in a church, but working in intercity church councils, reading and researching methods, techniques that the Holy Spirit can use to start what must be a revival. I don't think there is another word that would imply stirring up God's people than a revival!

One of my professors, a missionary to Indonesia on a furlough, joined the council of churches in my local city. He was the only evangelical churchman there, except the imam from the local mosque. (This, according to the imam!) It was all mainline & apostate churches. But he felt it was worthwhile to connect with this radically lost community. Have you been involved in something like this? If not, how do you know where the churches in your area are at? Are you in contact with many Evangelical pastors, or do you think you will be a one man show?

How can you have a mission to churches you know nothing about? Do you think the Holy Spirit is going to intervene, tell you everything about all churches, so you can fulfill your purpose? Seriously, you would have utterly no credibility. People harass me for my education, but part of the reason God had pushed me to get a biblical & theological education, is to have the bona fide credibility of having studied to show myself approved. (2 Tim 2:15) Plus, the working experience to show you have paid your dues.

You want to have some unverifiable experiences as the foundation for being a prophet to the churches? Blain, this is the definition of grandiosity. It is mental illness, pure & simple. Delusional, in fact!

Sigh! It is heart breaking to hear you speak, when you don't realize that because your revelations do conflict with the word of God, it means you are a false prophet. As much as you deny the mantle of prophecy, you still are claiming you are a prophet.

Please, read your Bible daily. Every page, every word. Stop this automatic writing! Repent of your vanity in thinking God has chosen you for a purpose you have not prepared for. And if God has called you, why have you not prepared yourself? I'm sorry, but it breaks my heart reading your confusion and delusions! I will pray that the Holy Spirit will deal with these dangerous delusions you have. And I don't mean this as an insult. I truly care about you, and I am stunned to see how far you have fallen from God, while claiming to be a modern day prophet!

 

[Angela53510]

Its quite common by the sound of it people speak of it all the time, they feel a strong presence of the spirit right after a gentle Gust of wind. I've often questioned whether it's coincidence, but I here it more often, your not alone, I believe that hope is the very essence of faith, in believing in the unseen, and if the hope is to please God, miracles can happen with brothers and sisters sharing In strong faith, all acting in faith to please God first,
Anything is possible with God, if your faith is of good solid belief then maybe this is the door to open the frequency you talked about,
Where by revalations come, or the presence becomes stronger than ever.

This is one of the hopes and beliefs that kept me clinging on to my faith, after I lost my mum, but the shock was to much for me bare, and I lost my way, I've always wondered like you if I still had my mum here, would my faith have grown more, because my mum's faith was strong, I only ever had my mum to share my faith with,
I feel it's was my mum's hope and faith of always being around a true believer on a positive level never doubting hope that Lord will give, maybe this helped me get on this frequency you talked about,

But I've never pursued it as after I lost my mum I haven't had anyone to share my faith with that much as a mature Christian, besides popping into the odd concert, or watching a Christian channel, but it's not the same as being face to face with some one strong in faith.

I'm glad your mom had a strong faith. But as Christians, we are to rely on the leading of the Holy Spirit, not even the strongest Christians! True they can mentor us for a time, but we have to grow into our own mature faith. No one can do it for you!

My parents were not Christians, although my grandmother was. She insisted all her grandchildren be sent to church. So, from
Grade 1-3, every Sunday, with a dime for the offering in my hand, my parents would send me to the Baptist Church across the alley! It seemed like all the other kids had their parents there. But I loved the singing, the Sunday School lessons, and the stars for memorizing the weekly Scripture verse. Plus, I got more stars for memorizing longer passages like the 23rd Psalm, the Beatitudes, the books of the OT & NT, and the Lord's Prayer. I was never saved, never had a teacher who took an interest in my spiritual life, nor was I chosen to sing a solo in the Junior Choir, when I knew my voice was better (I eventually became a professional musician & music educator!) because the girl who was chosen for the solo had a father who ran the elder board. Nepotism at its worst!

But I did walk away with many Bible verses hidden in my heart, which God used 20 years later to bring me to him! God just saved me, no altar call, just an amazing awareness of the presence of God, and his mercy & forgiveness, in saving a wretched sinner like me! No mentor, no mother, just the leading of the Holy Spirit. I picked up
my Bible, which I could now understand, because I met the author of the book- Jesus! I have read daily for 43 years. A total of around 60 times, because I read it in multiple languages, including the NT in Koine Greek, and numerous books in Hebrew in the OT.

I went to church the very next Sunday. I joined the church orchestra or worship team, taught Sunday school, led youth groups. God called me to seminary, and then to a theological University to work on a PhD in theology.

I did meet my husband who was a Christian, and was the final link in explaining the gospel and my need to repent. But he became lukewarm, while I clung to God.

Don't blame your mom for not being there. Take responsibility for your own walk with Christ. We will all stand before Christ one day, and answer as to whether we followed him or not. Are you going to say you couldn't help it, it wasn't possible to follow Christ because your mom was not around! What do you think Jesus will say? You will stand there, by yourself. Don't make excuses for yourself! Now is the day of salvation! Starting this day, you can repent and give your life to Christ. You need to obey him and follow him! It is never to late to know and serve the King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

 

[Fundaamental]

I'm glad your mom had a strong faith. But as Christians, we are to rely on the leading of the Holy Spirit, not even the strongest Christians! True they can mentor us for a time, but we have to grow into our own mature faith. No one can do it for you!

My parents were not Christians, although my grandmother was. She insisted all her grandchildren be sent to church. So, from
Grade 1-3, every Sunday, with a dime for the offering in my hand, my parents would send me to the Baptist Church across the alley! It seemed like all the other kids had their parents there. But I loved the singing, the Sunday School lessons, and the stars for memorizing the weekly Scripture verse. Plus, I got more stars for memorizing longer passages like the 23rd Psalm, the Beatitudes, the books of the OT & NT, and the Lord's Prayer. I was never saved, never had a teacher who took an interest in my spiritual life, nor was I chosen to sing a solo in the Junior Choir, when I knew my voice was better (I eventually became a professional musician & music educator!) because the girl who was chosen for the solo had a father who ran the elder board. Nepotism at its worst!

But I did walk away with many Bible verses hidden in my heart, which God used 20 years later to bring me to him! God just saved me, no altar call, just an amazing awareness of the presence of God, and his mercy & forgiveness, in saving a wretched sinner like me! No mentor, no mother, just the leading of the Holy Spirit. I picked up
my Bible, which I could now understand, because I met the author of the book- Jesus! I have read daily for 43 years. A total of around 60 times, because I read it in multiple languages, including the NT in Koine Greek, and numerous books in Hebrew in the OT.

I went to church the very next Sunday. I joined the church orchestra or worship team, taught Sunday school, led youth groups. God called me to seminary, and then to a theological University to work on a PhD in theology.

I did meet my husband who was a Christian, and was the final link in explaining the gospel and my need to repent. But he became lukewarm, while I clung to God.

Don't blame your mom for not being there. Take responsibility for your own walk with Christ. We will all stand before Christ one day, and answer as to whether we followed him or not. Are you going to say you couldn't help it, it wasn't possible to follow Christ because your mom was not around! What do you think Jesus will say? You will stand there, by yourself. Don't make excuses for yourself! Now is the day of salvation! Starting this day, you can repent and give your life to Christ. You need to obey him and follow him! It is never to late to know and serve the King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

It was more of a case of my mum's passion for Christ to help me understand the spiritual side of faith, that I feel was such a positive influence in my life, and also it was my mum's passion to prevent me from not being saved in future.
more often than not most of the time my mum spoke to me about Jesus as a youngster it would be centred around something preventing me from believing in the future, because my Mum I now feel knew that her days where numbers because of a neurological condition, all tho she never told me that,. But I feel that was here driving ambition as to why she wanted to help me believe how she did.

This is the positivity I was talking about, not so much me blaming my mum but me not being around that positive passion my mum that always put Jesus first.

I was only 17 when she passed, all tho i did start to express my faith after being persuaded by mum to be a Christian, it was never Quite the same passion as my mum had or understanding, because quite often my mum would say your not seeing it,

This is me blaming myself that I never truly listened or took it in, to immature and impulsive or to busy thinking about other things to pay my mum's concerns as much appreciation as they merited.

But like you pointed out we have to live it befor we truly express it.

Your passion is evident to with your devotion, and I'm happy be in your presence to, you could persuade many with the knowledge you have, and I thank God for people like you,

I'm a bit concerned for Blain's well being as you are, and I'm hoping it's not Blain's last words, but I want to listen on the basis it could be, I don't want to make the same mistake I did with my mum

 

[Fundaamental]

Some more relevance to blains prophecy.

 

[soberxp]

The funny thing is everyone told everyone that All are led by the Holy Spirit，But there always a different argument,
My advice is not to overinterpret the biblical prophecy,

The Book of Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

My understanding is that people overinterpret the biblical prophecy,like having a different dream, will dream dreams never be the real thing.

My advice may not be correct, but it's just advice, and I won't say I'm completely right, but that's how I read it.

 

[pottersclay]

I could never be disappointed with you. Whether we disagree is not the point. You have always loved the Lord, and sought him with all your heart. I pray God will continue to lead you on this journey. And I have always cared for you, and I hope maybe I have given you a tiny bit of spiritual perspective and hope, regardless of our theological differences.

But, my problem is that I don't think you know enough theology to truly look at the different theologies. My PhD studies are in theology, with a special interest in disability theology. But first, I undertook a massive study of doctrine after doctrine. That included reading 50-100 books on each topics, by many authors with differing viewpoints & beliefs, and I synthesized them and discovered the direction God was leading me. I examined many viewpoints & learned from so many amazing, Spirit-led scholars! My supervisor always made me read books from scholars of every persuasion & denomination. We are a product of our religious upbringing to a certain extent! But she cut down all those boundaries.

Scholarly research doesn't just take a position, then try to prove it right. That is folk theology. The real goal of Theological study is to read many viewpoints, capture their unique ideas, compare & contrast them, in order to come up with some Spirit led doctrines of your own. Some people do get stuck on one theologian or other, but my supervisor would never allow that. She made me find commonalities as well as differences, and come to conclusions after deep prayer.

Quite simply, you have not paid that price. I haven't fully either. My degree is on hold, because my health would not allow me to continue. But, I certainly grew and learned more about God, his nature and purposes, which come from a place of relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And I hope I can return again, and finish examining disability theology, maybe writing a book about what I have discovered, but even more important, how to help people with that knowledge.

Once again. You are claiming special personal revelation of dreams & guidance from God. But it is the Bible itself that leads us. The Word of God is God's love letter to us. We need to not only read it, read it more, but feed on it, tear it apart, digest it, reflect upon what others have written, who also have spent years studying the source of our knowledge of God, and that means getting help from others - from your pastor to devotionals and scholars with brilliant minds who have also focused on the Word, not experiential knowledge. You have returned to valuing personal experience over the word of God. Yet, you cannot distinguish between truth and falsehood in your own writing.

My husband and I have a long time friend, we've known for over 40 years. He reads & knows his Bible well. He uses KJV, because he is from Jamaica, and he literally learned to speak a much older form or English than we do. But he decided God was dictating directly to him. He began to type it all out. Then he began to teach people about what God had shown him. He had me edit one chapter "God" dictated to him. It was rife with error! Everything from basic spelling & grammar, to misquotes, out context Bible verses, and false teachings. I showed him his errors, in the Bible, and he refused to hear! That is exactly where you are headed! A false prophet. God doesn't do automatic writing! That is occult, whether you understand it or not! And you have become so convinced of your experiences, you have gone off track!

Centring on experience and special revelation has always been your downfall. Your concept of the Kingdom of God is immature, lacking in all the things already written about it. I know it is difficult for you to study that intensively, with your health issues, but even reading the Bible daily, with a commentary or notes, and sometimes without them, would put you farther down that road to using the Bible for revelation, instead of dreams & visions, signs & wonders!

Do I mean God isn't or won't speak to you in the small, still voice? Of course not. But when you have a deeper understanding of what God has written to us, you will know when the words you hear fall in line with the Word of God, or not! Quite simply, when you state something is true, because God told you, and it conflicts with the Word, I will take the Word of God each and every time!

The prophets of old, both OT & NT knew the Word better than most of us ever will. God used them, because he knew they would not "lean to their own understanding!" Prov 3:5. New Testament prophets were specially picked by God to record events, to teach God's people, and most important, to reveal Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world. Those prophets are not necessary anymore, no matter what charismatics would tell you. We have all we need in the Holy Word. We don't need extra-Biblical revelation!

But we do need a touch from God. God has touched your heart and soul Blain, there is no doubt about it! But he wants to touch your mind, through the Word of God!

And so our discussion continues. Please read about the kingdom of God being the "already & the not yet!" I can think of no better introduction to understanding doctrine.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/g...t-yet-what-else-does-the-bible-say.html?amp=1

Better to be rebuked by a friend than kissed by a enemy...

 

[Fundaamental]

The funny thing is everyone told everyone that All are led by the Holy Spirit，But there always a different argument,
My advice is not to overinterpret the biblical prophecy,

The Book of Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

My understanding is that people overinterpret the biblical prophecy,like having a different dream, will dream dreams never be the real thing.

My advice may not be correct, but it's just advice, and I won't say I'm completely right, but that's how I read it.

Let's assume where not in the last days yet for now and base my next thought of reasoning on such, how about applying this scripture to the last days of a person.

Ok so now let's go the other way,
Let's assume where in the last days now, people will start pouring out prophecies, and in turn people will be persuaded to believe in Christ.

But in both cases surely you could call this the gift of prophecy.

Would it be a sin to call your self a prophet for God in both cases,

If However the prophets where not testifying to the spirit of prophecy that Jesus Had in the form of true spirit of prophecy, then maybe you could assume it was a false testimony.

How ever the true church is just a building where true believers go.

The true church is in the heart of every individual, I feal this is where Blain's prophecy is directed.

 

[Niki7]

I could never be disappointed with you. Whether we disagree is not the point. You have always loved the Lord, and sought him with all your heart. I pray God will continue to lead you on this journey. And I have always cared for you, and I hope maybe I have given you a tiny bit of spiritual perspective and hope, regardless of our theological differences.

But, my problem is that I don't think you know enough theology to truly look at the different theologies. My PhD studies are in theology, with a special interest in disability theology. But first, I undertook a massive study of doctrine after doctrine. That included reading 50-100 books on each topics, by many authors with differing viewpoints & beliefs, and I synthesized them and discovered the direction God was leading me. I examined many viewpoints & learned from so many amazing, Spirit-led scholars! My supervisor always made me read books from scholars of every persuasion & denomination. We are a product of our religious upbringing to a certain extent! But she cut down all those boundaries.

Scholarly research doesn't just take a position, then try to prove it right. That is folk theology. The real goal of Theological study is to read many viewpoints, capture their unique ideas, compare & contrast them, in order to come up with some Spirit led doctrines of your own. Some people do get stuck on one theologian or other, but my supervisor would never allow that. She made me find commonalities as well as differences, and come to conclusions after deep prayer.

Quite simply, you have not paid that price. I haven't fully either. My degree is on hold, because my health would not allow me to continue. But, I certainly grew and learned more about God, his nature and purposes, which come from a place of relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And I hope I can return again, and finish examining disability theology, maybe writing a book about what I have discovered, but even more important, how to help people with that knowledge.

Once again. You are claiming special personal revelation of dreams & guidance from God. But it is the Bible itself that leads us. The Word of God is God's love letter to us. We need to not only read it, read it more, but feed on it, tear it apart, digest it, reflect upon what others have written, who also have spent years studying the source of our knowledge of God, and that means getting help from others - from your pastor to devotionals and scholars with brilliant minds who have also focused on the Word, not experiential knowledge. You have returned to valuing personal experience over the word of God. Yet, you cannot distinguish between truth and falsehood in your own writing.

My husband and I have a long time friend, we've known for over 40 years. He reads & knows his Bible well. He uses KJV, because he is from Jamaica, and he literally learned to speak a much older form or English than we do. But he decided God was dictating directly to him. He began to type it all out. Then he began to teach people about what God had shown him. He had me edit one chapter "God" dictated to him. It was rife with error! Everything from basic spelling & grammar, to misquotes, out context Bible verses, and false teachings. I showed him his errors, in the Bible, and he refused to hear! That is exactly where you are headed! A false prophet. God doesn't do automatic writing! That is occult, whether you understand it or not! And you have become so convinced of your experiences, you have gone off track!

Centring on experience and special revelation has always been your downfall. Your concept of the Kingdom of God is immature, lacking in all the things already written about it. I know it is difficult for you to study that intensively, with your health issues, but even reading the Bible daily, with a commentary or notes, and sometimes without them, would put you farther down that road to using the Bible for revelation, instead of dreams & visions, signs & wonders!

Do I mean God isn't or won't speak to you in the small, still voice? Of course not. But when you have a deeper understanding of what God has written to us, you will know when the words you hear fall in line with the Word of God, or not! Quite simply, when you state something is true, because God told you, and it conflicts with the Word, I will take the Word of God each and every time!

The prophets of old, both OT & NT knew the Word better than most of us ever will. God used them, because he knew they would not "lean to their own understanding!" Prov 3:5. New Testament prophets were specially picked by God to record events, to teach God's people, and most important, to reveal Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world. Those prophets are not necessary anymore, no matter what charismatics would tell you. We have all we need in the Holy Word. We don't need extra-Biblical revelation!

But we do need a touch from God. God has touched your heart and soul Blain, there is no doubt about it! But he wants to touch your mind, through the Word of God!

And so our discussion continues. Please read about the kingdom of God being the "already & the not yet!" I can think of no better introduction to understanding doctrine.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/g...t-yet-what-else-does-the-bible-say.html?amp=1

What a great post Angela. God has led me to study pretty much the way you describe and it seems I have hardly touched the surface even though it has been some years. I think you have pretty much covered all there is to say here and I appreciate it.

 

[ResidentAlien]

The scriptures clearly teach that in the last days false teachers and false prophets will proliferate.

 

[Fundaamental]

The last days apply for every living person also should it not ?.

As we live we start to decay in body, it's an automatic process every individual goes through

 

[Beckie]

counted about 40 references to your self and about 15 to God.

 

[Niki7]

Let's assume where not in the last days yet for now and base my next thought of reasoning on such, how about applying this scripture to the last days of a person.

Ok so now let's go the other way,
Let's assume where in the last days now, people will start pouring out prophecies, and in turn people will be persuaded to believe in Christ.

But in both cases surely you could call this the gift of prophecy.

Would it be a sin to call your self a prophet for God in both cases,

If However the prophets where not testifying to the spirit of prophecy that Jesus Had in the form of true spirit of prophecy, then maybe you could assume it was a false testimony.

How ever the true church is just a building where true believers go.

The true church is in the heart of every individual, I feal this is where Blain's prophecy is directed.

Feelings are not the criteria by which we ascertain if something is actually from God or not. We do not guide our lives by feelings or visions or dreams. I do believe God can sometimes give a dream or even a vision but in most cases, probably personal as an answer to something we are struggling with or a warning (such as Paul got from the prophet) and not for new revelation for the entire body of Christ.

This is so important...really people's lives can depend on whether or not they understand what the order of our understanding should be and it is always always always the Bible as our foundation, the building and the roof over our heads.

Let me give you an example of a dream I had that truly helped me as I know it was from God but personal to me.

Some years back when my grandfather died, I was so broken up over it that I would just lie in bed and shiver uncontrollably. I was given a dream in which my grandfather was walking me through his home and talking to me and we came to the garage where he kept his car. He opened the door and had me walk into the garage with him. He walked around his car, looked at me and said that it didn't matter anymore who took the car (there was considerable money involved but that was not the reason I was upset. I was upset because it seemed like people couldn't wait to grab things including one person in particular who had always been at odds with my grandfather)

Anyway, he looked at me and said it didn't matter to him who took the car because he did not need it anymore. He smiled at me and then I woke up. I was at peace after that. I cared about him, not all the 'stuff'.

God cares for us in personal ways. He does not lead us astray and He does not give us all kinds of extra-biblical revelations when we do not even know the Bible to measure these things against.

There is a dire and very sad lack of study of the word and people are going astray by the thousands. Did you see where Blain made the extraordinary comment that we might not be ready to study the word? Do you realize how anti-Bible that is? Please pray for discernment and understand that Blain's words do not agree with scripture and therefore cannot possibly be from the Holy Spirit!

I don't know Blain. I only know what he posted and it is alarmingly in disagreement with the Bible.

 

[soberxp]

Let's assume where not in the last days yet for now and base my next thought of reasoning on such, how about applying this scripture to the last days of a person.

Ok so now let's go the other way,
Let's assume where in the last days now, people will start pouring out prophecies, and in turn people will be persuaded to believe in Christ.

But in both cases surely you could call this the gift of prophecy.

Would it be a sin to call your self a prophet for God in both cases,

If However the prophets where not testifying to the spirit of prophecy that Jesus Had in the form of true spirit of prophecy, then maybe you could assume it was a false testimony.

How ever the true church is just a building where true believers go.

The true church is in the heart of every individual, I feal this is where Blain's prophecy is directed.

I'm not disagreeing with Blain.
I agree with him.

What I am saying is, The Gospel of Matthew 24:39
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The Gospel of Luke
6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Believers base their beliefs on illusions, or dreams, Believers fantasize that Jesus will immediately take them to heaven, or that Jesus will immediately take over any problems in the world When Jesus come. This is completely unrealistic.

Even the Bible says a thousand years, this process will take a whole thousand years to complete since the day Jesus came, October 10, 2008, I don't even know if tomorrow will be World War III and then the human race will perish.

So it was in the joy and life of lifting my heart and soul to him in praise and worship that suddenly he said this is the key and this is the generation that will come forth.
The generation that is coming is going to be one of worship they will bring the kingdom through worship in spirit and in truth mountains and giants who would oppose them will fall to ashes before them not by power or might but by worship

 

[Niki7]

I'm not disagreeing with Blain.
I agree with him.

What I am saying is, The Gospel of Matthew 24:39
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The Gospel of Luke
6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Believers base their beliefs on illusions, or dreams, Believers fantasize that Jesus will immediately take them to heaven, or that Jesus will immediately take over any problems in the world When Jesus come. This is completely unrealistic.

Even the Bible says a thousand years, this process will take a whole thousand years to complete since the day Jesus came, October 10, 2008, I don't even know if tomorrow will be World War III and then the human race will perish.

So it was in the joy and life of lifting my heart and soul to him in praise and worship that suddenly he said this is the key and this is the generation that will come forth.
The generation that is coming is going to be one of worship they will bring the kingdom through worship in spirit and in truth mountains and giants who would oppose them will fall to ashes before them not by power or might but by worship

Do you agree with him stating that we may not be ready to study the Bible?

The further we go in this present day, the more I am reminded of the book of Judges.

There is no excuse for agreeing with anti-biblical words. God does not have to come and live among us again. Be wise.

 

[soberxp]

Do you agree with him stating that we may not be ready to study the Bible?

The further we go in this present day, the more I am reminded of the book of Judges.

There is no excuse for agreeing with anti-biblical words. God does not have to come and live among us again. Be wise.

God comes and dwells among us, and that is when His Word dwells in us.

 

[Niki7]

So it was in the joy and life of lifting my heart and soul to him in praise and worship that suddenly he said this is the key and this is the generation that will come forth.
The generation that is coming is going to be one of worship they will bring the kingdom through worship in spirit and in truth mountains and giants who would oppose them will fall to ashes before them not by power or might but by worship

EVERY new generation thinks that they are 'the ONE.' Worship? When many if not most worship the songs and the song leaders because the music is so nice or catchy or whatever, that is not worship. Read revelation and see what worship is. I think most so called worship today is merely singing AT God.

Worship is NOT working as the agent to bring down some kind of kingdom on this earth. Not words many care to hear I am sure.

 

[Niki7]

God comes and dwells among us, and that is when His Word dwells in us.

What is with the laughing head there?

Something off in what you are posting and I am done with it.

You cannot agree with what I said and the op.

 

[Fundaamental]

Feelings are not the criteria by which we ascertain if something is actually from God or not. We do not guide our lives by feelings or visions or dreams. I do believe God can sometimes give a dream or even a vision but in most cases, probably personal as an answer to something we are struggling with or a warning (such as Paul got from the prophet) and not for new revelation for the entire body of Christ.

This is so important...really people's lives can depend on whether or not they understand what the order of our understanding should be and it is always always always the Bible as our foundation, the building and the roof over our heads.

Let me give you an example of a dream I had that truly helped me as I know it was from God but personal to me.

Some years back when my grandfather died, I was so broken up over it that I would just lie in bed and shiver uncontrollably. I was given a dream in which my grandfather was walking me through his home and talking to me and we came to the garage where he kept his car. He opened the door and had me walk into the garage with him. He walked around his car, looked at me and said that it didn't matter anymore who took the car (there was considerable money involved but that was not the reason I was upset. I was upset because it seemed like people couldn't wait to grab things including one person in particular who had always been at odds with my grandfather)

Anyway, he looked at me and said it didn't matter to him who took the car because he did not need it anymore. He smiled at me and then I woke up. I was at peace after that. I cared about him, not all the 'stuff'.

God cares for us in personal ways. He does not lead us astray and He does not give us all kinds of extra-biblical revelations when we do not even know the Bible to measure these things against.

There is a dire and very sad lack of study of the word and people are going astray by the thousands. Did you see where Blain made the extraordinary comment that we might not be ready to study the word? Do you realize how anti-Bible that is? Please pray for discernment and understand that Blain's words do not agree with scripture and therefore cannot possibly be from the Holy Spirit!

I don't know Blain. I only know what he posted and it is alarmingly in disagreement with the Bible.

I'm sorry to hear about that with your grandad, I had a similar experience with my mum, where by people didn't truly appreciate here until after she was Gone, so I share your pain in that truly I do and I hope God can help with that, I suffered terribly because if it, I even did not speak to people for years afterwards,

You used the word that Blain was refering to people who may not be ready to study the word, because of xyc, ask yourself was this refering to you specifically, it could have been a prophecy for somebody else,

 

[soberxp]

EVERY new generation thinks that they are 'the ONE.' Worship? When many if not most worship the songs and the song leaders because the music is so nice or catchy or whatever, that is not worship. Read revelation and see what worship is. I think most so called worship today is merely singing AT God.

Worship is NOT working as the agent to bring down some kind of kingdom on this earth. Not words many care to hear I am sure.

I agree with you on the second part.

First of all, praising God is part of worship.

Second, Revelation explicitly says endure to the end,That's what You mean the kingdom of God doesn't exist in the secular world,but the kingdom of God up/come on believers.

We are the temple of God, and when the word of God lives in us, His kingdom has come to us, and this kingdom may have borders between Believers and non-believers，between Believers and anti Christ.

I think most Believers are indoctrinated by mainstream beliefs to not be able to think for themselves and read the Bible for themselves.

Mainstream belief is based on the saying that God will come down for a thousand years and then not think or prepare.People don't even think about how believers are supposed to prepare if God's kingdom does come into the world. So starting with John the Baptist,
The Gospel of Matthew 3:3
For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.