Preparation for the tribulation.

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All you Post-tribulation believe in Christians, keep your fingers crossed I've just started a conversation with, Robert Furrow, About the tribulation. Pray for him that the Holy Spirit opens his eyes.
Show him this:
Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Explain it as it reads.
No additives
No postrib rapture special glasses.
Just read it and agree postribbers are 100% in conflict with the bible
 
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I showed you in the scripture the dead rising in the clouds at the last trumpet. what more do you want. what have you shown us, thats a pretrib rapture, what scripture are you building your house/Belief on?

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

revelation 11 has the dead rising in the clouds at the last trumpet at the end of the tribulation. I think the Lord would be very happy with me that I'm building my house on Bible verses and a natural story from the Bible instead of scraps and circumstantial evidence at best.
It's not my fault if you can't see it the Lord hasn't opened your eyes yet for some reason but he will.
Nope
Nope Nope
Only the 2 witnesses are resurrected.

Way off my friend
 

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The last Trumpet is still blown every year at the feast of trumpets.
.....but let's say you have one verse against our 10 verses .
Pssssst... that is how false doctrine flourishes
You're just making that up, that's the last trumpet one of the Plagues of God not the feast of a trumpet
 

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Yeah
Let's just say you believe she is not ready until she is purified.
Or chastised.
That makes it more plausible for those wanting that to happen to the bride.
That is what the Jews and Romans called their beatings.(chastizement)
So your doctrine really means "beat the bride into purity"
Got it.
That's aggressive.
 

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Show him this:
Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Explain it as it reads.
No additives
No postrib rapture special glasses.
Just read it and agree postribbers are 100% in conflict with the bible
Nothing to do with a pretrib Rapture nothing to do with Jesus coming in the clouds before the tribulation, nothing to do with a dead rising before the tribulation, what are you talking about.
 

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You can twist it if you like but it says. them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

iThey aren't raptured because they will come with Jesus DOWN to the clouds.
Matt 27 :And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection,
 

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Lol
Read what I said. Not what you have a habit of adding.
I never said what you claim.
"the Bible says he kills every human being on the planet that refuses to mark."
That's a false statement as I said before but I'm glad you've changed your statement and LOL to you
 

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Matt 25.
Some are ready and some are not.
If you want to plan on being here during the tribulation, simply do as the Foolish virgins. they end up being martyred by the Antichrist. the Bible says he kills every human being on the planet that refuses to mark.
So there is no such thing as a post tribulation rapture.
?
 

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Give me a postrib rapture verse.
Should be very easy.
That is your investment of faith ..not the written word.
The written word completely destroys all your supposition.
But maybe you will be the first postibber on the internet to find that nonexistent verse.
Just one verse will do.
I will give it you.
I'd like to show you how I come to the conclusion that we were going to go through the Tribulation

The last Trumpet that sounds as the two end time Witnesses are raised from the dead in the clouds in revelation11 ?

Rev11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And we all know Jesus comes in the clouds at the last Trumpet

1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Cori15:51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation11 has everything it's got the right time period, the last 42 months, as the Holy City is given to the Gentiles. it's got the Resurrection/Rapture, the dead rising first. it's got them raised in the clouds. it's got the last trumpet. What more could you ask for? It's got everything you need to build a strong foundation, a firm foundation. It's got more than enough to build your house upon a rock.

And if that's right then Matthew 24 is right.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days

shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, THEN the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the CLOUDS of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And here is another one.

2 Thess2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That day cannot come except that man of sin be revealed, and sits in the Temple of God. and He cannot sit in the Temple of God and till the temple is built, and he doesn't sit in the temple until middle of the seven years


Daniel 11:36 and 37. Daniel 9:27.


Build your house upon a rock not on circumstantial evidence.


now show me what you built your house on. show me the pre tribulation foundation and stones that you built your house upon on this belief if you can.
 

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Matt 27 :And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection,

Thats a dif event than the resurrection of the dead in Christ spoken about after Christ ascended.
 

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You can twist it if you like but it says. them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

They aren't raptured because they will come with Jesus DOWN to the clouds.
  1. [13] But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
    [14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    [15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    [18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words
It's you that's twisted (look) it's in the same group of verses it explains what he's talking about, and we're caught up together in the clouds. Your chlorine at straws, trying to get blood from a stone, making it sound like something it's not. when you read the very next versions, it explains exactly what he was talking about. it's you my friend twisting it, the Holy Ghost will not be happy, Especially after you've been shown you've been twisting it.
 

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it's you my friend twisting it, the Holy Ghost will not be happy, Especially after you've been shown you've been twisting it.

It still says, "them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. "

Only the dead are resurrected.

Only the living are raptured.
 

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It still says, "them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. "

Only the dead are resurrected.

Only the living are raptured.
You don't care about the rest of the verses I can see that. just a bit that you like, just a bit that justifies to you a pretrb rupture.
 
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You don't care about the rest of the verses I can see that.
All pertinent scriptures must be involved to understand something properly. Ignoring the verse I posted is clear error.

No scripture ever says the dead are raptured. They are already with Christ and require no rapture. Abandon any idea of a pre-trib rapture or a rapture for the dead. Both are unscriptural.