Concerning the gift of tongues

[ocean]

My post 165 in which I clearly deny having 'power' as lamar states I did and yet he continues to make statements that satisfy his own nonsense and have nothing to do with my actual words. So I'm done bothering to try and discuss with him. He is obviously not interested in having an honest discussion.

I suppose he will come back and say he has 'conquered' tongues because I don't respond but the actual reason is for his own behavior and sad way of communicating.

Oh I see. You are confused and seem to think I claimed supernatural power because I testify of having the gift of tongues (along with quite a few others here but for some reason (no worries I get it) you decide to attack because I speak the truth)

I don't have supernatural power. The Holy Spirit is the One with power and He does use people to speak through both with tongues, with interpretation and or whatever language someone needs to hear it in. I have never said where or when I might practice this gift though.

I have never stated I control anything. It is obvious you have had more than one conversation with those who attest to speaking in tongues and just jump claim that I am fair game.

What do you think of the gift of teaching? or prophecy? or the ability to have a word of wisdom? or a word of knowledge? or any of the other gifts? Do you hate them all or just tongues in particular?

 

[TrustandObey]

My post 165 in which I clearly deny having 'power' as lamar states I did and yet he continues to make statements that satisfy his own nonsense and have nothing to do with my actual words. So I'm done bothering to try and discuss with him. He is obviously not interested in having an honest discussion.

I suppose he will come back and say he has 'conquered' tongues because I don't respond but the actual reason is for his own behavior and sad way of communicating.

These are your words: " I was 19 when I asked God for the gift of speaking in tongues (which I received immediately)"
Then you refer to this gift as "power" which it certainly is.
These are your words: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” Acts 1:8 The power is for the glory of God and to witness"

Speaking in tongues is described in Acts as power and this power is subject to the person who it has been given to. (1st Cor, 14:32)

Stop the deceit and clearly state if you have the power/gift/capacity/talent/ability or whatever slick word you can come up with and admit that you perform or control this physical supernatural manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

Presenting scriptures that reveal the existence of tongues in the 1st Century does not prove that you or any other person is actually in possession of these God given powers.

So again do you posses and control the God given power of Biblical tongues? Yes or No?

 

[DJT_47]

When I was younger I spoke in tongues a few times & interpreted a few times, but now that I'm older it's mostly prophesying. The feeling within though is the same...i feel the intensity of the Spirit come upon me & I have to respond.

What was said when you "spoke in tongues", and what was the tongue in which you spoke? And what was prophesied by you in specific terms?

 

[TrustandObey]

What was said when you "spoke in tongues", and what was the tongue in which you spoke? And what was prophesied by you in specific terms?

I am sure he remembers it all. It's not everyday that a person hears from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

 

[ocean]

These are your words: " I was 19 when I asked God for the gift of speaking in tongues (which I received immediately)"
Then you refer to this gift as "power" which it certainly is.
These are your words: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” Acts 1:8 The power is for the glory of God and to witness"

Speaking in tongues is described in Acts as power and this power is subject to the person who it has been given to. (1st Cor, 14:32)

Stop the deceit and clearly state if you have the power/gift/capacity/talent/ability or whatever slick word you can come up with and admit that you perform or control this physical supernatural manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

Presenting scriptures that reveal the existence of tongues in the 1st Century does not prove that you or any other person is actually in possession of these God given powers.

So again do you posses and control the God given power of Biblical tongues? Yes or No?

Actually Jesus said power would be given by the Holy Spirit. BUT what kind of power? Power to witness for Him.

But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” Acts 1:8

What kind of power do you think is being received here? I don't think you understand the scripture regarding the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
I don't know what you think happens when a person receives a spiritual gift. You think it is all about tongues but it is actually as Jesus said. Tongues are for the church and for the individual.

Again, I don't have 'the' power. If people received power to witness for Christ through receiving the Holy Spirit, then, if you were not so angry in your desire to 'prove' what you cannot prove (that this is or any other gift has ceased) you would maybe understand that fact in the first place.

As salvation is still ongoing, so are the gifts and you cannot prove they do not continue anymore than the atheist can prove God does not exist. Now for the atheist God does not exist and for you, tongues do not exist. Frankly, I see no difference. One says their word is the one that counts and you are doing the same.

You do not understand the context of the word 'power'. As another indication of your ongoing battle against the invisible, you state I said I could stop and start at will. I never said that. You, like your buddy, have obviously had arguments with other people who speak in tongues and you have built up an obsession with arguing with people who believe scripture and have experienced certain spiritual gifts just as they believed God for salvation through His Son.

 

[ocean]

These are your words: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” Acts 1:8 The power is for the glory of God and to witness"

No I did not write that scripture. They are not my words; they are the words of Christ. But again, the power is to witness for Him and spread the gospel. There is no self contained power as you seem to think and I made no claim to have any power to do anything.

Stop the deceit and clearly state if you have the power/gift/capacity/talent/ability or whatever slick word you can come up with and admit that you perform or control this physical supernatural manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

You twist what I have said and make a case for things I did not say. Sounds more like the deception is your own.

Clearly, you have nothing to offer other than words with no substance. Relax. You are not going to prove tongues do not exist and for those of us who do have that gift, we can do nothing but point you to scripture which you do not seem to quite understand. Take it up with the Person who said power would be received after the Holy Spirit came upon believers but try to understand what it was for.

There are many charlatans parading around and abusing the gifts or saying they have gifts they do not have. There are people who believe they are saved but live like they are not. Those things are not an indication of truth so to point at them and try to make a case that tongues have stopped, is like killing Jesus (although He gave up His life) and thinking the problem is solved. It was actually going to just begin.