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Arrows of the evil one? or arrows of the mighty one.? Psalm 127:4-5
The father of lies loves to confuse "kinds" . Which teaching master or how do we hear in order to beleive God, not seen after. Shadows (ceremonial) substance faith that comes from hearing God .the substance maker. and vice versa . The signature of the counterfeiter (venom of Asps
You relied, shooting verses of scripture taken out of context proves something. Do you mean like the ones in Mark16 parable that follows after the new substance (faith believing God ) . ..you could say as an example like the sign that reads. . . . ."You have just left the Chicago city limits thank you for coming, no coming again as born again .One experience was plenty to view all the sight seeing signs . .
Removing the metaphors and transforming them into things that edify flesh defines. . . Transubstantiation, a Catholic doctrine .Metaphors are shadows of what is hoped not the substance of what is hoped for.
As always it seems he leaves in advance a safeguard (deadly) He has left one metaphor to prove the spiritual understanding of the language Mark 16 is signified (using that seen to represent the unseen eternal .. . . . . . of the poison of lying spirits, the Serpent's (false doctrine) .
The whole congregation testing to see if it was literal or metaphorical interpretation in Georgetown. The death of a cult are still in the grave. And also all of the metaphors in Mark 16 are together as one represent and point to one un seen substance called faith.
Its not today I will seek after confirming fulfiling of making a noise. And tomorrow I will walk into hospital and heal by the human divine/ touch .
I would ask in regard to Mark 16. Are they metaphors used in a parable or not?[/QUOTE]
The father of lies loves to confuse "kinds" . Which teaching master or how do we hear in order to beleive God, not seen after. Shadows (ceremonial) substance faith that comes from hearing God .the substance maker. and vice versa . The signature of the counterfeiter (venom of Asps
You relied, shooting verses of scripture taken out of context proves something. Do you mean like the ones in Mark16 parable that follows after the new substance (faith believing God ) . ..you could say as an example like the sign that reads. . . . ."You have just left the Chicago city limits thank you for coming, no coming again as born again .One experience was plenty to view all the sight seeing signs . .
Removing the metaphors and transforming them into things that edify flesh defines. . . Transubstantiation, a Catholic doctrine .Metaphors are shadows of what is hoped not the substance of what is hoped for.
As always it seems he leaves in advance a safeguard (deadly) He has left one metaphor to prove the spiritual understanding of the language Mark 16 is signified (using that seen to represent the unseen eternal .. . . . . . of the poison of lying spirits, the Serpent's (false doctrine) .
The whole congregation testing to see if it was literal or metaphorical interpretation in Georgetown. The death of a cult are still in the grave. And also all of the metaphors in Mark 16 are together as one represent and point to one un seen substance called faith.
Its not today I will seek after confirming fulfiling of making a noise. And tomorrow I will walk into hospital and heal by the human divine/ touch .
I would ask in regard to Mark 16. Are they metaphors used in a parable or not?[/QUOTE]
Not sure about the word “must” Dan. But, I don’t read every post on threads. Just don’t have the time.
I believe that salvation includes all those things you put in your post as truth. But, we have to accept all believers as one Spirit, one body; one in Jesus Christ, Lord of all. Not all see baptism in water the same way.
I think you know that I disagree with the word must. That makes doctrine law.
But, Jesus has set the pattern for us by His own life. He began with water baptism, received Holy Spirit after coming up from the waters of death, and being full of God, all the power of Father within Himself, began His ministry.
He desires we walk the same.
The baptism of Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of the greater One, Father, is what we all need. For if Jesus depended on Holy Spirit to move through Him, then we do even more. He only did and said what He saw and heard. How? This is what we are discussing.
I believe that salvation includes all those things you put in your post as truth. But, we have to accept all believers as one Spirit, one body; one in Jesus Christ, Lord of all. Not all see baptism in water the same way.
I think you know that I disagree with the word must. That makes doctrine law.
But, Jesus has set the pattern for us by His own life. He began with water baptism, received Holy Spirit after coming up from the waters of death, and being full of God, all the power of Father within Himself, began His ministry.
He desires we walk the same.
The baptism of Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of the greater One, Father, is what we all need. For if Jesus depended on Holy Spirit to move through Him, then we do even more. He only did and said what He saw and heard. How? This is what we are discussing.
Memra or Imrah is actually the Hebrew for the expression in some verses that says and the “Word of the Lord”. The manifested preincarnate Son of God.
He manifested in some way.
How prophets wrote the scriptures is by what they heard in their spirit, or by the action of God where He says open your mouth and I will fill it. My paraphrase.
Prophecy to a fellowship or individual is in the same manner, open your mouth, He fills. I will hear a few words, then begin to speak.
The gift of wisdom and knowledge may work the same way. I’ve never really asked anyone how these things start in others, but haven’t heard anything different.
He manifested in some way.
How prophets wrote the scriptures is by what they heard in their spirit, or by the action of God where He says open your mouth and I will fill it. My paraphrase.
Prophecy to a fellowship or individual is in the same manner, open your mouth, He fills. I will hear a few words, then begin to speak.
The gift of wisdom and knowledge may work the same way. I’ve never really asked anyone how these things start in others, but haven’t heard anything different.
I do not see anywhere in the Book of Acts where those who received the Holy Spirit empowerment were not saved first.
they were all saved first not all had hands laid on them either Peter stated that in Acts when he said in Acts 10: 44
Paul hand hands laid on him by a disciple, not an apostle But all were saved before
they were all saved first not all had hands laid on them either Peter stated that in Acts when he said in Acts 10: 44
Paul hand hands laid on him by a disciple, not an apostle But all were saved before
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Are you claiming that the gospel "is" those who believe and are baptized and all these signs above will follow or else you won't be saved? 
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Thanks. It seem to represent "the word was God", as the "I Am" in respect to the father and the Son or both a point emphasized over and over through the bible . The unbelieving Jews made the father in heaven not seen without effect. They like the first king were looking for a son of their own design politically correct... Saul the necromancer . They would in affect say to Jesus acting in the place of the father in heaven whose will Christ did obey. Do us a trick show us a miracle so that we can see and them and then believe.
They express no need of our Holy Father not seen Just as the Catholics. Just stand in the place of abomination the unseen place of the glory of God.
2 John 1:9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Still not sure why that word is used Memra or Imrah. Seems there was more to come out of it? Does it replace something .Does it speak of another kind of manissfitation . . like private revelation ?
What do you say jesus is saying. What does he say the sigh confirms as it is written in 1 Corinthians 14:21-22
Will you fil in the colors? I can start out. orange as to what the sign points to.
In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.1 corothians14:21-22
To seek after a sign or not.. . that is the question You can do it just believe prophecy the tongue of God. .
NO that is a false accusation
mailmandan quoted the scriptures I posted and challenged these as to being the gospel.
Jesus spoke quite succinctly about preaching the gospel to all and the gospel to be believed would have these signs following
to give credence and power to the one and only gospel.
that is what you and other unbelievers have a problem with - scripture
mailmandan quoted the scriptures I posted and challenged these as to being the gospel.
Jesus spoke quite succinctly about preaching the gospel to all and the gospel to be believed would have these signs following
to give credence and power to the one and only gospel.
that is what you and other unbelievers have a problem with - scripture
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You have added works to the gospel. The gospel as defined in the scripture is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. You add signs and tongues to the gospel corrupting the gospel of the bible.
You rely on one passage of scripture and use it to create a false doctrine. The gospel does not include tongues. You replace the true gospel with a tongues gospel that is not the gospel.
Pentecost is not the gospel. The long ending of Mark is not a stand alone representation of the words of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You rely on one passage of scripture and use it to create a false doctrine. The gospel does not include tongues. You replace the true gospel with a tongues gospel that is not the gospel.
Pentecost is not the gospel. The long ending of Mark is not a stand alone representation of the words of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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@mailmandan dislikes the very words spoken by Jesus.[/QUOTE] Not at all. I just dislike your misinterpretation of the very words spoken by Jesus.
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