Applying God's Word to Politics
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I don't. But a covenant is instituted and can be referred to in language such as "The Institution of the New Covenant". Also, as far as I think we're concerned as Christians, didn't God institute covenants?
God established Divine Institutions which men attempt to modify.
The Divine Institution of marriage between the man and the woman was established in the beginning by God. So, Christians have fought to protect the Divine Institution of Marriage as God instituted it and have fought politically to protect it.
You're describing the altered institution of man and included is the contractual/covenantal agreement for the institution of man.
Men are copying God in forming institutions and covenants. This can't make an institution an Institution (note the capitalization and keep it in mind - my intended meaning is Divine Institution).
We can apply your light and eisegete your point or we can see how your light is not Light and find you wrong.
I assume you're speaking of the KOG vs. terrestrial rule in the sense of godly vs. ungodly or Christian vs. non-Christian. Is all non-Christian art ungodly? Same question for business, commerce, education. Every non-Christian institution entraps people who work in them or makes them function in ungodly ways?
Question: Do you hold citizenship in the US? If yes, do you vote?
Which again reveals you know very little about institutions and Christians who both work in many and head many of them which have been instituted to do godly work.
God established Divine Institutions which men attempt to modify.
The Divine Institution of marriage between the man and the woman was established in the beginning by God. So, Christians have fought to protect the Divine Institution of Marriage as God instituted it and have fought politically to protect it.
You're describing the altered institution of man and included is the contractual/covenantal agreement for the institution of man.
Men are copying God in forming institutions and covenants. This can't make an institution an Institution (note the capitalization and keep it in mind - my intended meaning is Divine Institution).
We can apply your light and eisegete your point or we can see how your light is not Light and find you wrong.
I assume you're speaking of the KOG vs. terrestrial rule in the sense of godly vs. ungodly or Christian vs. non-Christian. Is all non-Christian art ungodly? Same question for business, commerce, education. Every non-Christian institution entraps people who work in them or makes them function in ungodly ways?
Question: Do you hold citizenship in the US? If yes, do you vote?
Which again reveals you know very little about institutions and Christians who both work in many and head many of them which have been instituted to do godly work.
Sailor, you're the best at this unawareness syndrome. 
As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
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As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
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Sailor, you're the best at this unawareness syndrome.
As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
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As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
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I also have in mind whether the person needs help through no fault of their own. We see an example of this playing out in California, where Trump is demanding that citizens begin directing water from the north to fill reservoirs in the south for resources to put out fires before he thinks they will deserve federal aid.
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We are living BOTH in the KOG AND in this fallen world, and just as putting on "the new self" (EPH 4:24) or living as "children of light" (EPH 5:8) is a process involving spiritual growth as we learn God's Word (EPH 4:11-15), so also salting and enlightening fallen society (MT 5:13-16) is a life-long process, but just because "our citizenship is in heaven" and perfection will not be attained on earth does not mean that it should not be our goal (PHP 3:12-20).
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Sailor, you're the best at this unawareness syndrome.
As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
🍻
As i explained to our friend Studier a few pages ago, if we even try to come close to what Jesus taught and try to establish some sort of government or nation based on His teachings and the life that He lived, we need to have open borders and show our other cheek to the enemy. This is the equivalent of communism especially in American culture!
The reason we don't do this, or we can't do this, is because we are not gods to bend the laws of the universe and feed 9 billion people with a loaf of bread and a fish.
So, it's a matter of resources too while we live in this sinful state in this fallen world.
This is why, again, we don't mix politics with God but have it your way. Burger King.
🍻
One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying at its foundations. - Joseph Story, SC Justice, Congressman, Father of American jurisprudence.
Civil Liberty = Christianity?
The quote above equates civil liberty with Christianity.
It says civil liberty EQUALS Christianity.
Provably Untrue:
This is provably untrue.
You can have civil liberty and not even be saved... so civil liberty does not equal Christianity.
Webster & Error:
Noah Webster did a lot of great things, and I appreciate him.
But no amount of appreciation can turn theological errors into facts.
Webster's quote above is lovely, and speaks highly of civil liberty - but it's conclusion is just a very obvious error in theology, mistaking virtues for Christianity.
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The quote above equates civil liberty with Christianity.
It says civil liberty EQUALS Christianity.
Provably Untrue:
This is provably untrue.
You can have civil liberty and not even be saved... so civil liberty does not equal Christianity.
Webster & Error:
Noah Webster did a lot of great things, and I appreciate him.
But no amount of appreciation can turn theological errors into facts.
Webster's quote above is lovely, and speaks highly of civil liberty - but it's conclusion is just a very obvious error in theology, mistaking virtues for Christianity.
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