I don’t ignore that, I know the second death will have pain involved and I’ve never denied that:
Revelation 2:11
11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be
hurt of the second death.
Do you know how long the pain would last if you were thrown into a literal “lake of fire?” it would be nearly instant death.
Again, you are missing the key. It is the body that will be destroyed, leaving the soul to experience the SAME FATE as:
1. beast #1
2. FP
3. Satan plus all fallen angels.
You are going to HAVE TO show Scripture that those from the GWT judgment WON'T have the SAME FATE as the 3+ above. And you don't have that evidence, do you.
Since the first death involves death of the body and soul then the second death is the same.
You are making no sense here. You have pushed the idea that "death" means "cease to exist".
So, explain how anyone who "ceases to exist" can come before the GWT judgment in their resurrected body.
You've cornered yourself and can't get out.
There’s no other way to dance around it.
Said the dancer.
according to you the devil, not anyone else, will not be tormented day and night forever. He’ll just be relaxing in the fire feeling no pain at all.
So that's "according to" me, huh? Where in the world did you get that from? Certainly NOT any of my posts.
Rev 20:10 plainly says he, along with the beast and FP will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
And since I have quoted that verse so often, your ridiculous comment just shows how LOW you will go to misrepresent me. How is that a Christian behavior? It isn't. So stop making stuff up. It's basically LYING.
Maybe they’ll even start playing word games and making the best of it. Hardly any weeping, wailing, or gnashing or literal teeth involved.
Your comments just get weirder and weirder.
You forgot about the “no more pain, no more tears” bit in Revelation 21 when all things have been made new.
Why would you think such a stupid thing? That verse refers ONLY to the believers. There will be no more tears or pain for them, and them alone.
Why in the world would anyone think that verse would apply to anyone who was cast into the LOF?
Explain how you fixation on eternal pain and suffering meshes with Revelation 21 if you can.
It is YOUR OWN GROSS misunderstanding of my position that can't be "meshed" with reality. Sheesh.
I said:
It is LITERAL. All humans are destined to die ONCE, and then the judgment. For believers, that judgment is the Bema, where they will be rewarded or not. And they won't die again.
And then... (Unspecified amount of time passes) … the judgement.
Huh? Believers will physically die ONCE. Then the Bema. No more death.
According to Matthew 10:28 the other option is being destroyed body and soul in hell; the first death.
There are no choices, so NO options. You should know that. Jesus was simply making the point that God IS ABLE to destroy the soul in hell. But we know that He DOESN'T do that, otherwise, there would be no unbelievers at the GWT judgment, and no souls to receive their physical bodies in the unbelievers' resurrection.
You should think through your thoughts and views BEFORE you post such nonsense.
The second death will be like the first death.
Your comments are really getting strange. The "first death" is physical death only. Or prove that the unbeliever's soul dies too when the body dies the first time.
Not to flex, but my biblical knowledge is clearly more refined than yours which is stunning because I think you’re much older than me.
What is really stunning is your complete lack of reality here. You have cornered yourself by your comments and you don't even realize it.
Unfortunately you had the disadvantage of being indoctrinated into a denomination.
What denomination was that? I never ever said anything about a denomination. So you are just making up stuff again and again.
I had the advantage of just being a student of the Bible and taught by the Holy Spirit.
Well, He gives you an F for rejection of the truth that you've been given.
I said:
Are you denying that unbelievers will receive their physical bodies by by resurrection??
Your questions are becoming increasingly absurd.
Your comment confirms my suspicion about your lack of biblical knowledge. Obviously you don't want to (or can't) answer my very simple and straightforward question. Nothing hard about it.
Dan 12:2 - Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake:
some to everlasting life,
others to shame and everlasting contempt.
John 5:28,29
28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice
29 and come out—
those who have done what is good will rise to live, and
those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
Acts 24:15 - and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be
a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.
3 passages: the blue words refer to the resurrection of believers and the red words refer to the resurrection of unbelievers.
And yet, you can't answer a simple question, based on 3 passages that are quite clear.
[QUORE]You just drone on and on. [/QUOTE]
That's what "students" say when they are bored and aren't paying attention. Maybe that explains why you get an F from the Holy Spirit.
Quite frankly it isn’t interesting. I’m solid in my beliefs, no thanks I don’t want to join your cult of eternal torment.
"cult of ECT". That says everything. You are really dug in to your false doctrine.
