everyone who wishes to rule over others is a wolf - you're mistaken if you think there is a 'good choice' in worldly politics: there are only bad ones.
Would Christ Vote?
- Thread starter Publican
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
everyone who wishes to rule over others is a wolf - you're mistaken if you think there is a 'good choice' in worldly politics: there are only bad ones.
No there are leaders and there could be more good leaders if Christians followed what Jesus told them to be in the world.
And no I am not mistaken.
Maybe Jesus wears a MAGA hat? The fact is God appointed Trump to be the 45th president and the 47th president.If Christ voted, He would do a write-in and vote for Himself.
(Somehow, I just cannot see Him voting for anyone else.)
I doubt sitting in a synagogue included name calling, mud slinging, personal attacks, calling people heretics, calling them unsaved, divisiveness, constant arguing, etc...
I don't see Christ sitting behind a computer, on one forum site, for hours and hours a day.
He seemed to be out among people and trying to bring people to God, performing miracles, etc...
As far as your last paragraph, what you said was entirely my point. We could look at a lot of things and say "Jesus never did that, so neither should we", and I've seen it on here numerous times on a variety of topics. But obviously there needs to be realistic limits to this notion.
My point was you could take many things and say Christ didn't do them, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to do them or that the comparison doesn't work.
As far as why I'm here, typically less than an hour a day, is I'm disabled. Have been for 15 years now. I don't leave my house except for doctor/hospital visits or to see my 91 year old father who is in a long term care facility.
After I moved here I didn't have a chance to make friends because I was looking for work and before I could find any I fell sick. So the only friends I have are online.
Yet I still try to make use of my time on here trying to help others when I'm able.
He did not tell us to seek to be leaders of governments, but instead specifically to desire to live quiet, simple lives, working with our hands.
so, what kind of men and women seek worldly power? either those ignorant of scripture or those who reject it.
hence: no good choices. only wolves.
how many synagogues have you been to?
lol, no none is claiming we do a good job at what we try to do.
OK at least i am not
cool.
agreed
Thank you for the clarification. I live alone in the woods far from town. So if I had any friends they would be online as well.
Jesus never went bowling, I get your point, I shouldn't quit bowling because Christ never did.
But this is a bit different, and I think we have enough information from scripture to conclude that Christ did not involve Himself in politics, and that was my point.
I commend your self control. Were I disabled I might not be as judicious with my time. Give your dad a hug from one of your online friends.
He might vote, I really don't know. But one thing I do know is He wouldn't vote for either candidate who ran in this past election. The whole idea of Jesus voting is ridiculous though.
um.... sort of a moot point, is it not?
The people of Jesus' time did not have the right to vote. They were ruled by the Romans. I'm pretty sure the concept of "elections" was non-existent, which is probably why it was not addressed by Jesus.
He simply said to follow what your RULERS said... we need to decide for ourselves what that principle means to us, individually, when deciding to vote, or not vote. It's a matter of conscience.
Core Biblical Issues All Christians Must Vote On - Harvest
(excerpt)
In a world where secular values often clash with biblical truth, it's crucial that Christians understand their responsibility to engage in the electoral process and to vote. This engagement is not just a civic duty, but a biblical imperative.
Many will rightly remind you that we should not place our eternal hope in political parties or candidates. However, this theological truth doesn't absolve us from the responsibility to be good stewards of our citizenship and to vote.
(here)
Why voting for Christians is a biblical issue
In a representative democracy citizens are the rulers who invest their authority in representatives to act on their behalf. Defaulting on that responsibility is really no different that failing to rule ourselves, which enables sin to rule by default
The question isn't what would Jesus do. The question is what would Jesus do if He is living in you?
Not concerned with politics!?
If the Jews would have accepted Him He would have set up a POLITICAL Throne on Earth at that time, instead of when He comes back.
Whether He would have voted or not, is moot since there was no elections in His day.
But if there were, he would have written in Himself.
Christ had a different purpose and mission from the Father than we do. When his was finished he was taken from this earth while he prayed that we be left here. So while I am in full agreement that we are to follow Christ and he be our example. This is not exactly a apples to apples comparison.
Paul would be however, Paul said follow me as I follow Christ. Paul was a citizen of Rome so he would have had the right to vote. We have no clue if he ever did or not vote on any issues that Roman citizens would have voted on. However, citizenship does have rights. Paul used them and had no problem using his rights under the political system.
When he was jailed with no trial he had no problem letting them know he was a Roman and they had no right to jail him. He then embarrassed the rulers that locked him up by demanding they come and release him.
He also appealed to Caesar as was his right and we can in Acts see how he using this right, it put him before kings and authorities to declare Christ.
So I would say getting involved or not getting involved as Christians would be a matter of conscience. So I would say for Christians to violate their conscience would be wrong. I would also think that the ones who do involve themselves see themselves as the stronger brother. I would also say that those who don't involve themselves see themselves as the stronger brother.
So with both sides seeing themselves as the stronger brother the bible lets us know that we then should not give offense to the weaker and let them be to serve God as their conscience dictates.