Walking In the Fear of God

[ForestGreenCook]

And what does it mean to repent?

A godly sorrow, and a contrite heart.

 

[UnderGrace]

A godly sorrow, and a contrite heart.

Well that will follow repentance but that is not repentance.
Repentance is "metanoia" which is a word found outside of scripture in ancient Greek writings as well and is well understood from a etymological linguistic point of view.

It might be helpful to know that,

Both Luther and Calvin desired to remove the concept of penance from the meaning of repentance.

They very accurately looked at the root of the meaning of the word repentance: meta=after; noeo=to think. Put the two together and the effect of meta was “after the fact” or “afterwards.”

Essentially, it means to think about something later on and have a reversal of opinion about it. Thus, repentance meant “to change the mind.” Specifically in the context of scripture—to change the mind about Christ.

 

[Noblemen]

Remember, Judas Iscariot believed in Jesus as well.

Judas was under law, as well as the others.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I didn't get your point seed.

I mean,what If a person doesn’t sin outwardly but they had a desire In their mind to sin.

To man as long as he didn’t actually commit the sin they say that I thought about It but I didn’t do It so then I didn’t sin but that would only be ok If the person was under grace and In the process of renewing their mind but nevertheless they ARE still sinning,so then I’m saying that we still sin In thoughts and anyone saying that they don’t sin In thought Is deceiving themselves.

 

[justpassinthrough]

Soo..youre another one that only l8ves by the OT law...ahhhh...explains it..

I see, so Paul, the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ is explaining about love, and that's the old testament law? LOL .


No wonder you don't understand the new testament writings.


8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10


And John -


2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

• this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.

again


4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:4-5

• He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If you believe you can live your life in violation of His commandments and think you are saved, you will be in for a major shock on the Day of Judgement.


Are you by any chance a liberal democrat?




JPT

 

[justpassinthrough]

Judas was under law, as well as the others.

Judas preached the Gospel to the lost.


How does that make Him under the law?


“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
Luke 16:16




JPT

 

[posthuman]

If I steal from a person, that is not love.

If I murder a person, that is not loving him.

without having a written commandment, but having love, is it possible to arrive at keeping sabbath?
how?
it is easy to see how much of the Law is arrived at from love - apart from any written commandment. what about the things in the law like food, tzitzit, sacrifices, feasts and signs, that apart from being specifically commanded to do, are not obviously stemming from love?

am I just not seeing it...?

 

[Jewel5712]

I see, so Paul, the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ is explaining about love, and that's the old testament law? LOL .


No wonder you don't understand the new testament writings.


8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10


And John -


2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

• this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.

again


4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:4-5

• He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If you believe you can live your life in violation of His commandments and think you are saved, you will be in for a major shock on the Day of Judgement.


Are you by any chance a liberal democrat?




JPT

No one is disputing bout love but thats not what the OP is trying to address...

And no..republican..

 

[Jimbone]

“Therefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: for our God is a consuming fire” – Hebrews 12:28-29.

The above scripture tells us that godly fear is a work of grace. Nowadays, there are very few teachings about the fear of God. And most of the few teachers that teach about the fear of God, define the fear of God to mean the same thing as the love of God. Others interpret it to mean reverence. But the above opening text clearly differentiates reverence from godly fear with the word “And”.

The fear of God is distinct from the love of God and reverence for God. We can clearly see this distinction by checking through the original words which they were translated from.

The love of God is from the Greek word “Agape”, meaning affection. Reverence for God, as used in our opening text, is from the Greek word “entrepo” meaning, to respect. While the fear of God which we are now discussing, is from the Greek word “eulabeia” meaning caution or dread.

Hence, we are to walk in the fear or dread of God for our own good. The Lord doesn’t want us to fear anyone or anything, but he does want us to fear and tremble before him. Hence, in the new covenant, he says he will put his fear in our hearts, so we shouldn’t depart from him (Jeremiah 32:40).

Then the Lord Jesus tells us again, that we should not fear those that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather we should fear him (God) who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Matthew 10:28).

So Why Should We Fear God?

Sometime back, while I shared this message of the fear of God with a young man, he asked me; “can you love and fear your father at the same time?” I replied, “Yes, I loved my parents for whom they were to me, but at the same time, I feared them, because if I messed up, I would be rebuked or punished”

When John talks about perfect love casting away fear, he meant condemnational fear (1John 4:18). And this condemnational (bond) fear, that John says perfect love casts away, is different from the godly fear we are talking about here.

I have felt both of them. Condemnational fear, like John says, has torment. It leads to self and people condemnation. It also leads to struggle with sin. It kills faith. As I struggled with this kind of fear some years ago, like John says, my encounter with the divine love of God by revelation, gave me eternal victory from the clutches of condemantional fear.

While godly fear on the other hand, is a gift of the Spirit of Grace. It confers mastery over sin. Godly fear helps you depart from sin and perfect holiness (2 Corinthians 7:1). Godly fear stabilises love and faith in the heart of a believer.

As a matter of fact, many Christian who confess righteousness with no practical evidence of righteousness in their characters and words, are actually suffering from the missing link of the fear of God. They get carried away with God’s love, goodness and faith. But pay absolutely no attention to the fear of God, divine severity and eternal judgement…

Because they have been wrongly taught or wrongly believe that the fear of God is the same thing as the Love of God or mere reverence or awe.

Now let’s see the scriptural reasons why we need to fear God...

Securing Our Eternal Salvation: “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”—Phil 2:12. From scriptures, we see that a saved soul can be cut off if he doesn’t work out his salvation with caution and trembling (Romans 11:20-22). Judas Iscariot lost his bishopric because he didn’t work out his salvation with fear and trembling.



Mastery in Holiness: From scriptures we see that the fear of God is the master or perfect key for Holy or godly living. Here is exactly what the word of God says concerning this:

“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God” 2Corinthians 7:1.

Enjoying Divine Wisdom: The bible tells us that the fear of God gives us access to divine wisdom, which is uncanny wisdom. As a matter of fact, the bible defines wisdom to mean the fear of God. Here is the exact scripture: “And unto man he said, behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding”—Job 28:28. Hence, to be walking in the fear of God, is to be walking in divine wisdom.

To Enjoy Divine Blessings: “Praise you the Lord, blessed is the man that fears the Lord that delights greatly in his commandments. His descendants shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endures forever”—Psalm 112:1-3. So the man or woman that walks in the fear of God enjoys divine blessings amongst which is wealth and riches.

So the list above, are the major biblical reasons we must have to walk in the fear of God. God does not want us to be afraid of anyone or anything. Neither does he want us to have condemnational or tormenting fear. But he does desire and instructs us to fear him for our ultimate and eternal good.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili

I agree with you, anyone who has been crushed by the presents of our Holy and righteous God understands the fear of God. You can not stand in front of God, He is good, He is the light, our true wickedness is exposed fully in His light and we cannot hide it. The fear of God is literally the best experience of my life so far. When I was first born again I was listening to the message of the true price paid on the cross, and I was overcome by the Spirit, I was on my face (face pressed into the ground), my eyes squeezed as tight as I possibly could, weeping uncontrollably, feeling like His presents was in the room standing over me but not even thinking about looking up. LOL, Woe was I, completely crushed by His glory. Again the best feeling of my whole life, still can't comprehend it fully the fear of God it glorious and I LOVE it.

 

[Jewel5712]

I agree with you, anyone who has been crushed by the presents of our Holy and righteous God understands the fear of God. You can not stand in front of God, He is good, He is the light, our true wickedness is exposed fully in His light and we cannot hide it. The fear of God is literally the best experience of my life so far. When I was first born again I was listening to the message of the true price paid on the cross, and I was overcome by the Spirit, I was on my face (face pressed into the ground), my eyes squeezed as tight as I possibly could, weeping uncontrollably, feeling like His presents was in the room standing over me but not even thinking about looking up. LOL, Woe was I, completely crushed by His glory. Again the best feeling of my whole life, still can't comprehend it fully the fear of God it glorious and I LOVE it.

Im not sure with our human natural minds we'll EVER be able to comprehend while on earth..

 

[Jewel5712]

I see, so Paul, the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ is explaining about love, and that's the old testament law? LOL .


No wonder you don't understand the new testament writings.


8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10


And John -


2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

• this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.

again


4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:4-5

• He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If you believe you can live your life in violation of His commandments and think you are saved, you will be in for a major shock on the Day of Judgement.


Are you by any chance a liberal democrat?




JPT

Btw..JESUS IS THE NEW LAW so we arent BOUND by the OT laws..not saying to EXCLUDE them but there was a specific reason those commands were given at that time...but..now move on to the NT....dont get stuck in just keeping the 10 commandments ..in doing so youre totally discounting Jesus death and resurrection..HIS LOVE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KEEPING COMMANDMENTS..we arent "works=salvation"...

 

[Jewel5712]

@justpassinthrough

Here...

"In the gospels. Many Christians believe that the Sermon on the Mount is a form of commentary on the Ten Commandments. It portrays Christ as the true interpreter of the Mosaic Law. In the Expounding of the Law, Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets, but to fulfill them (Matthew 5:17)."

Jesus didnt come to ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO FUFILL IT! ...

So in talking all about your love tangent how does connect in YOUR mind of the OP "WALKING IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD?" Remember..i said YOUR MIND so i dont want you to sling a buch of Bible verses at me..people can do tgat all day but its not the Bible being disputed here its people INTERPRETATION of the Bible thats in question...

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I agree with you, anyone who has been crushed by the presents of our Holy and righteous God understands the fear of God. You can not stand in front of God, He is good, He is the light, our true wickedness is exposed fully in His light and we cannot hide it. The fear of God is literally the best experience of my life so far. When I was first born again I was listening to the message of the true price paid on the cross, and I was overcome by the Spirit, I was on my face (face pressed into the ground), my eyes squeezed as tight as I possibly could, weeping uncontrollably, feeling like His presents was in the room standing over me but not even thinking about looking up. LOL, Woe was I, completely crushed by His glory. Again the best feeling of my whole life, still can't comprehend it fully the fear of God it glorious and I LOVE it.

Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)

28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

29.)For our God is a consuming fire.

 

[Jewel5712]

Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)

28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

29.)For our God is a consuming fire.

I love that part..OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE...amen!

 

[Jimbone]

Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)

28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

29.)For our God is a consuming fire.

I just read all of 12 and what I think it is saying, is that anything not pure in the presents of the LORD will be consumed. Much like it says in 1 Cor 3:10-15
10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

I believe that is the sense God is being described as a consuming fire at the end of Hebrews 12.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Judas preached the Gospel to the lost.


How does that make Him under the law?


“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
Luke 16:16




JPT

In the KJV it says "every man" instead of "everyone." Of course, it does not mean every man on earth. It means every elect man. This is a prime example of many other scriptures being interpreted falsely that use the words, all men, any, etc. The Kingdom of God in this verse has reference to Christ's church. not heaven.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Im not sure with our human natural minds we'll EVER be able to comprehend while on earth..

1/3 of us (the spirit of a born again man made perfect) knows right now here on earth.

 

[pottersclay]

This is getting pretty interesting

 

[Jewel5712]

1/3 of us (the spirit of a born again man made perfect) knows right now here on earth.

Sorry dont agree..theres things that God purposely witholds

Heres scriptures guys....

"Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable. (Ps. 145:3)

"Behold, these are but the outskirts of his ways, and how small a whisper do we hear of him! But the thunder of his power who can understand? (Job 26:14)

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa. 55:8–9)

"Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" (Rom. 11:33–34; cf. Job 42:1–6; Ps. 139:6, 17–18; 147:5; Isa. 57:15; 1 Cor. 2:10–11; 1 Tim. 6:13–16)

These verses teach that not only is God’s whole being incomprehensible but each of his attributes—his greatness, power, thoughts, ways, wisdom, and judgments—are well beyond human ability to fathom fully. Not only can we never know everything there is to know about God, we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.

...we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.

 

[pjharrison]

I mean,what If a person doesn’t sin outwardly but they had a desire In their mind to sin.

To man as long as he didn’t actually commit the sin they say that I thought about It but I didn’t do It so then I didn’t sin but that would only be ok If the person was under grace and In the process of renewing their mind but nevertheless they ARE still sinning,so then I’m saying that we still sin In thoughts and anyone saying that they don’t sin In thought Is deceiving themselves.

Right that's why we need grace. That is what Paul was explaining about the sin nature. That I don't want to do I do, because in your thoughts it is as if you did it anyway.