Walking In the Fear of God
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Well that will follow repentance but that is not repentance.
Repentance is "metanoia" which is a word found outside of scripture in ancient Greek writings as well and is well understood from a etymological linguistic point of view.
It might be helpful to know that,
Both Luther and Calvin desired to remove the concept of penance from the meaning of repentance.
They very accurately looked at the root of the meaning of the word repentance: meta=after; noeo=to think. Put the two together and the effect of meta was “after the fact” or “afterwards.”
Essentially, it means to think about something later on and have a reversal of opinion about it. Thus, repentance meant “to change the mind.” Specifically in the context of scripture—to change the mind about Christ.
Repentance is "metanoia" which is a word found outside of scripture in ancient Greek writings as well and is well understood from a etymological linguistic point of view.
It might be helpful to know that,
Both Luther and Calvin desired to remove the concept of penance from the meaning of repentance.
They very accurately looked at the root of the meaning of the word repentance: meta=after; noeo=to think. Put the two together and the effect of meta was “after the fact” or “afterwards.”
Essentially, it means to think about something later on and have a reversal of opinion about it. Thus, repentance meant “to change the mind.” Specifically in the context of scripture—to change the mind about Christ.
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I mean,what If a person doesn’t sin outwardly but they had a desire In their mind to sin.
To man as long as he didn’t actually commit the sin they say that I thought about It but I didn’t do It so then I didn’t sin but that would only be ok If the person was under grace and In the process of renewing their mind but nevertheless they ARE still sinning,so then I’m saying that we still sin In thoughts and anyone saying that they don’t sin In thought Is deceiving themselves.
To man as long as he didn’t actually commit the sin they say that I thought about It but I didn’t do It so then I didn’t sin but that would only be ok If the person was under grace and In the process of renewing their mind but nevertheless they ARE still sinning,so then I’m saying that we still sin In thoughts and anyone saying that they don’t sin In thought Is deceiving themselves.
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I see, so Paul, the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ is explaining about love, and that's the old testament law? LOL .
No wonder you don't understand the new testament writings.
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10
And John -
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3
- this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.
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4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:4-5
- He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
If you believe you can live your life in violation of His commandments and think you are saved, you will be in for a major shock on the Day of Judgement.
Are you by any chance a liberal democrat?
JPT
without having a written commandment, but having love, is it possible to arrive at keeping sabbath?
how?
it is easy to see how much of the Law is arrived at from love - apart from any written commandment. what about the things in the law like food, tzitzit, sacrifices, feasts and signs, that apart from being specifically commanded to do, are not obviously stemming from love?
am I just not seeing it...?
how?
it is easy to see how much of the Law is arrived at from love - apart from any written commandment. what about the things in the law like food, tzitzit, sacrifices, feasts and signs, that apart from being specifically commanded to do, are not obviously stemming from love?
am I just not seeing it...?
I agree with you, anyone who has been crushed by the presents of our Holy and righteous God understands the fear of God. You can not stand in front of God, He is good, He is the light, our true wickedness is exposed fully in His light and we cannot hide it. The fear of God is literally the best experience of my life so far. When I was first born again I was listening to the message of the true price paid on the cross, and I was overcome by the Spirit, I was on my face (face pressed into the ground), my eyes squeezed as tight as I possibly could, weeping uncontrollably, feeling like His presents was in the room standing over me but not even thinking about looking up. LOL, Woe was I, completely crushed by His glory. Again the best feeling of my whole life, still can't comprehend it fully the fear of God it glorious and I LOVE it.
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Btw..JESUS IS THE NEW LAW so we arent BOUND by the OT laws..not saying to EXCLUDE them but there was a specific reason those commands were given at that time...but..now move on to the NT....dont get stuck in just keeping the 10 commandments ..in doing so youre totally discounting Jesus death and resurrection..HIS LOVE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KEEPING COMMANDMENTS..we arent "works=salvation"...
@justpassinthrough
Here...
"In the gospels. Many Christians believe that the Sermon on the Mount is a form of commentary on the Ten Commandments. It portrays Christ as the true interpreter of the Mosaic Law. In the Expounding of the Law, Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets, but to fulfill them (Matthew 5:17)."
Jesus didnt come to ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO FUFILL IT! ...
So in talking all about your love tangent how does connect in YOUR mind of the OP "WALKING IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD?" Remember..i said YOUR MIND so i dont want you to sling a buch of Bible verses at me..people can do tgat all day but its not the Bible being disputed here its people INTERPRETATION of the Bible thats in question...
Here...
"In the gospels. Many Christians believe that the Sermon on the Mount is a form of commentary on the Ten Commandments. It portrays Christ as the true interpreter of the Mosaic Law. In the Expounding of the Law, Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets, but to fulfill them (Matthew 5:17)."
Jesus didnt come to ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO FUFILL IT! ...
So in talking all about your love tangent how does connect in YOUR mind of the OP "WALKING IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD?" Remember..i said YOUR MIND so i dont want you to sling a buch of Bible verses at me..people can do tgat all day but its not the Bible being disputed here its people INTERPRETATION of the Bible thats in question...
Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
Hi JimboneI was curious about how you would Interpret the scripture located In Hebrews 12:28-29,where It says that our GOD Is a consuming fire?
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
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Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version(KJV)
28.)Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29.)For our God is a consuming fire.
10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
I believe that is the sense God is being described as a consuming fire at the end of Hebrews 12.
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In the KJV it says "every man" instead of "everyone." Of course, it does not mean every man on earth. It means every elect man. This is a prime example of many other scriptures being interpreted falsely that use the words, all men, any, etc. The Kingdom of God in this verse has reference to Christ's church. not heaven.
Sorry dont agree..theres things that God purposely witholds
Heres scriptures guys....
"Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable. (Ps. 145:3)
"Behold, these are but the outskirts of his ways, and how small a whisper do we hear of him! But the thunder of his power who can understand? (Job 26:14)
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa. 55:8–9)
"Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" (Rom. 11:33–34; cf. Job 42:1–6; Ps. 139:6, 17–18; 147:5; Isa. 57:15; 1 Cor. 2:10–11; 1 Tim. 6:13–16)
These verses teach that not only is God’s whole being incomprehensible but each of his attributes—his greatness, power, thoughts, ways, wisdom, and judgments—are well beyond human ability to fathom fully. Not only can we never know everything there is to know about God, we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.
...we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.
Heres scriptures guys....
"Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable. (Ps. 145:3)
"Behold, these are but the outskirts of his ways, and how small a whisper do we hear of him! But the thunder of his power who can understand? (Job 26:14)
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa. 55:8–9)
"Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" (Rom. 11:33–34; cf. Job 42:1–6; Ps. 139:6, 17–18; 147:5; Isa. 57:15; 1 Cor. 2:10–11; 1 Tim. 6:13–16)
These verses teach that not only is God’s whole being incomprehensible but each of his attributes—his greatness, power, thoughts, ways, wisdom, and judgments—are well beyond human ability to fathom fully. Not only can we never know everything there is to know about God, we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.
...we can never know everything there is to know about even one aspect of God’s character or work.
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