Walking In the Fear of God
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Taking every thought captive under the new testament grace would be In line with renewing the mind after GOD has equipped us and this would not be the perfect talked about In the bible that says be perfect the way our father In heaven Is perfect but this would be talking about:
Romans 12:1-2
King James Version(kJV)
1.)I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2.)And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:1-2
King James Version(kJV)
1.)I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2.)And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
It is based on this same theory that someone once wrote; "forgive, if you don't forgive, you go to hell-- false doctrine". Thereby falsifying this great Jesus teaching before going to the cross...
So you believe Judas as well as every other person that believed in Jesus Christ before he went to the cross were not born again...
My question is; on what biblical ground do you draw this your faith?
Cos the last time I checked the bible, the only condition for salvation is believing in the Lord Jesus (The Abrahamic Faith, not the devilish Faith). And of course it didn't matter if he had gone to the cross or not...
Remember, Judas Iscariot believed in Jesus as well. He was amongst the team that Jesus sent out and he also did signs and wonders in Jesus' name. So he believed in Jesus.
The word of God tells us that whosoever believes in his name would be saved. It didn't say whosoever believes in Jesus Christ after the cross shall be saved.
So please can you explain to me the basis on which the notion that everyone that believed in Jesus were not saved before the cross?
And could you also explain why people believe that everything Jesus commanded before the cross is not for us under the new covenant (grace)?
Please I just need a straight forward answer...
So you believe Judas as well as every other person that believed in Jesus Christ before he went to the cross were not born again...
My question is; on what biblical ground do you draw this your faith?
Cos the last time I checked the bible, the only condition for salvation is believing in the Lord Jesus (The Abrahamic Faith, not the devilish Faith). And of course it didn't matter if he had gone to the cross or not...
Remember, Judas Iscariot believed in Jesus as well. He was amongst the team that Jesus sent out and he also did signs and wonders in Jesus' name. So he believed in Jesus.
The word of God tells us that whosoever believes in his name would be saved. It didn't say whosoever believes in Jesus Christ after the cross shall be saved.
So please can you explain to me the basis on which the notion that everyone that believed in Jesus were not saved before the cross?
And could you also explain why people believe that everything Jesus commanded before the cross is not for us under the new covenant (grace)?
Please I just need a straight forward answer...
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Well, my dear sister Jewel,
If I am to toe the line of philosophy and logic I would easily accept your rationale...
Only that when it comes to the word of God, I don't like basing my faith on logic and philosophy because I see them not safe at all.
It isn't safe for anyone, cos God's ways are not our ways.
Now based on your position I wanted to know your take on these scriptures:
1) From Our Lord Jesus Himself:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matt 10:28
2) From the beloved Apostle Paul:
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Romans 11:20-22
My dear Sister, Could you please tell me your take on these scriptures?
If I am to toe the line of philosophy and logic I would easily accept your rationale...
Only that when it comes to the word of God, I don't like basing my faith on logic and philosophy because I see them not safe at all.
It isn't safe for anyone, cos God's ways are not our ways.
Now based on your position I wanted to know your take on these scriptures:
1) From Our Lord Jesus Himself:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matt 10:28
2) From the beloved Apostle Paul:
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Romans 11:20-22
My dear Sister, Could you please tell me your take on these scriptures?
I am not a sinner. A sinner is someone who practices sin: practice the works of the flesh.
I keep His commandments. If I should sin, I immediately repent and confess my sin, and are forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness.
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
A doctor practices medicine.
If I put a bandage on a person, it doesn't mean I practice medicine.
I practice righteousness, yielding to the righteous Life within me, so I walk according to the Spirit, setting my mind on things above, I invest myself in the things of the Spirit, rather than sowing to the flesh.
Practicing righteousness, is about practicing Love, Loving God by loving His children.
That is what His commandments are about. Loving God, by keeping His commandment to love people.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3
If I steal from a person, that is not love.
If I murder a person, that is not loving him.
Christians who claim to "know Him" [have eternal life] and do not keep His commandments, are liars.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:4-5
- A sinner is separated from God.
For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; Hebrews 7:25
I am joined to the Lord and one Spirit with Him.
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17
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"Sinner' in definition refers to anyone that commits a sin..and theres NO WAY we can confess every little sin ..if you over eat at a meal..isnt that gluttony..if erc..if you talk about someone at work in a negative way. Even if its factual..isnt that gossip..Exaggerating a truth is a lie etc..if we tried and confessed every little sin daily we'd ALWAYS be on our knees..lol..we can TRY not to sin but like i said..if we were sinless we would be God..
And yes..sin seperates us from God but even more so the IMPORTANCE of forgiveness and repentance that we can be RECONCILED back to God...
And yes..sin seperates us from God but even more so the IMPORTANCE of forgiveness and repentance that we can be RECONCILED back to God...
So don't sin then, just keep His commandments.
Start today.
Breaking His commandments is hating Him and hating His people.
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3
- this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.
Make a commitment today, to Love God and love people.
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10
- Love does no harm to a neighbor;
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8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. 2:1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous (1 John 1:8-2:1, NASB).
The sin youre talking about is repetative self aware sin..but none of us have not sinned.
The sin youre talking about is repetative self aware sin..but none of us have not sinned.
No, they were not, there were no born again until Jesus dealt with "the sin of the world" (singular sin-nature) at the cross.
As long as the sin nature exsisted there were no born again. There were no born again in OT, the OT lasted until a new Testiment could be made (the cross).
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
As long as the sin nature exsisted there were no born again. There were no born again in OT, the OT lasted until a new Testiment could be made (the cross).
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.