Three Days and Three Nights

[rstrats]

Endoscopy,
re: "The fact that the start of the day starts at sunset in Israel."


What????? What have I written that makes you think I am ignorant of that?

 

[Endoscopy]

I thought we were defining as the subject three days and three nights? The crucifixion part of that three day three nights metaphor began on Friday . The garden part where the suffering began when the father poured out his wrath of the Son of man unto death (not dying) and the Son of man suffered crying out for relief and the father sent angels to strengthen him to finish the work of the two . The metaphor 3 days and 3 nights began on Thursday .

Incorrect. What is known:
He was crucified during Passover week. It begins and ends with an annual Sabbath. Those fall most of the time during the week.
Second he was placed in the tomb the afternoon just before a Sabbath, the second Sabbath of Passover.
Third the tomb was empty on Sunday morning.

From this he rose the afternoon of the weekly Sabbath. Counting backwards 3 days and nights the crucifixion was on Wednesday. Thus the High Day of the Unleavened Bread was a Thursday. Thursday, Friday and the Sabbath make the 3 days and nights with the tomb empty Sunday morning. Too many people ignore the fact of annual Sabbaths.

 

[cv5]

Incorrect. What is known:
He was crucified during Passover week. It begins and ends with an annual Sabbath. Those fall most of the time during the week.
Second he was placed in the tomb the afternoon just before a Sabbath, the second Sabbath of Passover.
Third the tomb was empty on Sunday morning.

From this he rose the afternoon of the weekly Sabbath. Counting backwards 3 days and nights the crucifixion was on Wednesday. Thus the High Day of the Unleavened Bread was a Thursday. Thursday, Friday and the Sabbath make the 3 days and nights with the tomb empty Sunday morning. Too many people ignore the fact of annual Sabbaths.

Christ Jesus was undoubtedly died on the precise day and specified time of the paschal lamb. This is Nisan 14 at twilight (anytime between 3pm and 6pm). This accords with Scripture. He must have been hastily buried before 6 pm Nisan 14. Therefore, the tiny portion of the Nisan 14 "day" accounts for day one. The term "three days and three nights" was a common Hebraism and an idiom.

Realistically, this model is the one and only fit. Furthermore, Galilee historically had an "early" Passover therefore resolving the early Last Supper.

 

[Endoscopy]

Christ Jesus was undoubtedly died on the precise day and specified time of the paschal lamb. This is Nisan 14 at twilight (anytime between 3pm and 6pm). This accords with Scripture. He must have been hastily buried before 6 pm Nisan 14. Therefore, the tiny portion of the Nisan 14 "day" accounts for day one. The term "three days and three nights" was a common Hebraism and an idiom.

Realistically, this model is the one and only fit. Furthermore, Galilee historically had an "early" Passover therefore resolving the early Last Supper.

I get bored by people like you using a calander and terms only a relatively few understand. Mayby I should go into the specialized lingo I used in my work. How about the concept of proper design of an electronic circuit taking into account the heat dissipation considerations when creating a layout of the circuit.
Also you ignore what Jesus stated. As Jonah was in the belly of the big fish so the son of man will be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights. He never stated partial days counted but 3 days and 3 nights means full days and nights.

 

[cv5]

I get bored by people like you using a calander and terms only a relatively few understand. Mayby I should go into the specialized lingo I used in my work. How about the concept of proper design of an electronic circuit taking into account the heat dissipation considerations when creating a layout of the circuit.
Also you ignore what Jesus stated. As Jonah was in the belly of the big fish so the son of man will be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights. He never stated partial days counted but 3 days and 3 nights means full days and nights.

Excuse me?
What we have here is the following:
Nisan 14 Friday
Saturday Sabbath
Day after the Sabbath

The death burial and resurrection unquestionably fit into this uninterrupted chronological sequence and framework. Nothing more, nothing less.

And IMO demanding precisely 259,200 seconds for this sequence is patently absurd on many levels.

I rest my case.

 

[JaumeJ]

I do not think any man is able to tell our Father how His creation is made, especially in view of the truth that He simply speaks things into existence. As for as the nature of His cration is concerned it is destined to the fire next time since all is allied to corruption only to be one day replaced by a living and eternal existence for us all…..

 

[rstrats]

cv5,
re: "The term 'three days and three nights' was a common Hebraism and an idiom."

A common idiom meaning what?

 

[cv5]

cv5,
re: "The term 'three days and three nights' was a common Hebraism and an idiom."

A common idiom meaning what?

id·i·om
[ˈidēəm]

NOUN

1. a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light).

 

[Endoscopy]

Excuse me?
What we have here is the following:
Nisan 14 Friday
Saturday Sabbath
Day after the Sabbath

The death burial and resurrection unquestionably fit into this uninterrupted chronological sequence and framework. Nothing more, nothing less.

And IMO demanding precisely 259,200 seconds for this sequence is patently absurd on many levels.

I rest my case.

My point is how many on this site know what Nisan 14 is? Why use the Jewish calander? It means nothing to most people on this site. Do you understand IRIG106? How about a telemetry commutator? I can bury you with technical jargon. As an electronics, computer hardware and software expert I am a great believer in KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Jargon like using the Jewish calender only causes confusion for most. Since I traveled to Israel several times for work I knew where Nisan comes from but most people don't!!

 

[cv5]

My point is how many on this site know what Nisan 14 is? Why use the Jewish calander? It means nothing to most people on this site. Do you understand IRIG106? How about a telemetry commutator? I can bury you with technical jargon. As an electronics, computer hardware and software expert I am a great believer in KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Jargon like using the Jewish calender only causes confusion for most. Since I traveled to Israel several times for work I knew where Nisan comes from but most people don't!!

My friend, Nisan 14 is a peculiar date that was and will be known for all eternity.
To ignore this date and day is folly and near to blasphemy IMO.

 

[Endoscopy]

I know the specific year can be calculated since someone in a previous discussion gave it. My question is what need is it for the discussion of the 3 day sequence? The fact of 2 Sabbaths is all that is required.

 

[rstrats]

cv5,

I wasn't asking what the word "idiom" means. I was asking what it meant with regard to "three days and three nights".

 

[Endoscopy]

My friend, Nisan 14 is a peculiar date that was and will be known for all eternity.
To ignore this date and day is folly and near to blasphemy IMO.

Then put it in our calander rather than the Jewish calander that only a few understand!!!

I refer back to KISS!!

With the Jewish calander have fun doing that with a month that at times is there.

 

[Endoscopy]

cv5,

I wasn't asking what the word "idiom" means. I was asking what it meant with regard to "three days and three nights".

He was being foolish with his attempt at humor.

 

[cv5]

Then put it in our calander rather than the Jewish calander that only a few understand!!!

I refer back to KISS!!

With the Jewish calander have fun doing that with a month that at times is there.

The Jewish calendar is....convoluted.
Despite this, the crucifixion Nisan 14 is of course pivotal.

 

[JaumeJ]

Pesach….Nissan 15

 

[Endoscopy]

The Jewish calendar is....convoluted.
Despite this, the crucifixion Nisan 14 is of course pivotal.

The Jewish calender is a lunar calender and about every 3 years they insert a month to make it align with the seasons. I found that fact interesting. How do they handle that with anything significant happening in that month. For instance a birth. What is that person's birthday when that month isn't there?

Still fixated on the Jewish calender!! You love to sow confusion!!

 

[garee]

garee,
re: "I would ask what does the metaphor 'heart of the earth' represent?"

For the purpose of this specific topic it represents the tomb. Is that what the Messiah meant it to mean? Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't matter because this topic is directed to anyone who thinks it is referring to the tomb. If you want to disagree with that thinking, then you should start a new topic.

Heart of the earth is reckoned as a three day work of suffering the pangs of hell as the tribulation or wrath of God using three to represent the end of the matter." Belly of the whale" is another idiom meaning the same .

Tomb or buried I am sure that is not what he meant. Three days and nights in the heart of the earth is not three days in the grave or the tomb. It is compared to Jonas 3 days and three nights alive in the belly of the whale. Suffering the pang of hell , as a living work of Christ. it is reckoned as is the "living sacrifice". No dead sacrifices .Dead works as work that do not provide spirit life have no spirit life needed.

He began the work of suffering in the garden on Thursday as the father and son worked together to bring the peace of God that surpasses all human understanding.

Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. Luke 22:42- 44

 

[rstrats]

Endoscopy,

Your have a question directed to you in post #761.

 

[Endoscopy]

Pesach….Nissan 15

Yeshua

The Jewish calendar is....convoluted.
Despite this, the crucifixion Nisan 14 is of course pivotal.

You keep on using that date that means absolutely nothing to almost all of the readers of the forum. Why?? Do you love to sow confusion? Or are you just showing off using a date that is meaningless to most on the forum?