Three Days and Three Nights
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Not really. Why would this have to be defined. Isn’t it understood? Even by a carnal man to mean into the earth?
However, calculating three days/three nights is not when the physical shell of. His body went into the “heart of the earth” but when The Spirit left His body
The heart of the earth means inside, inwardly, into the earth.
Here’s the definition:
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
It’s literally the place where the mountains originate, It’s where the earths bars held captives, it’s a place of corruption.
If you die today and it is 3 PM you died on that day at 3pm. You are just as dead if you would have died at 2:59Pm two days later if you rose at 6am you would have been dead three days and three nights.
The words in the heart and the earth are used together to indicate the suffering of hell(not dead)
He was not buried underground but in a tomb
Seeing Christ cannot die and the body of the Son man, Jesus was kept from corruption similar to Lazarus it would seem to be more the living hell as suffering unto death, not dead. The place of the wickedness of men suffering was great in the earth. In the earth does not mean buried
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
His suffering was compared to that of the parable with Jonas. Three days of a living hell or suffering . Christ did not offer a dead sacrifice but a living work.
Genesis 6:5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
It was the kind of suffering that Cain the marked man was given to bear as a restless wanderer, no sabbath rest from his suffering. No thoughts of God only the imagination of his evil heart
The three day demonstration began in the garden when the father began pouring the cup of wrath. Heart of the earth must be the place of evil
Mark 14:34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Again unto death not a dead sacrifice.
Christ died. His body lay in the tomb 3 days - his tomb and his body have nothing to do with three days in the heart of the earth. His spirit went to the heart of the earth where His spirit ministered to spirits in prison for three days and three nights.
I would say the heart of the earth speaks of the place of evil as a living suffering, a living hell . Men cannot breath without oxygen. So then its unto death not a dead sacrifice.
The Holy Spirit visited the old testament saints in a temporal place called the Bosom of Abraham in respect the invisible Holy place of God .
Genesis 6:5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
The work of a living suffering began in the garden as the Father poured out the wrath intened for us on the Son of man Jesus. As a living suffering he cried out to the Father just as did Jonas . Just as he delivered Jonas strengthening him to finish the work the same applies to the Son of man Jesus .
Matthew 26:37-39 King James Version (KJV) And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Heart of the earth defines a living sacrifice suffering called hell in the flesh .
Jonah 2:1-2 King James Version (KJV)Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the "belly of hell" cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Belly of hell must equals three days in the heart of the earth, as a living sacrifice.
I would offer it seems to be place that the translators had trouble with . Possibly because of the idea or a new area of Sabbaths on the Sunday was opposed by the Judaizers. The way I understand is that the Greek did not have and therefore did use the word week .They would use days like seven day.
Sabbaths meaning rest is not a time sensitive word it was translated the first day of the week rather than the first of the sabbath in respect to the new era. Young's Literal Translates it properly.
Mark 16:9 Young's Literal Translation (YLT) And the sabbath having past, Mary the Magdalene, and Mary of James, and Salome, bought spices, that having come, they may anoint him, and early in the morning of the first of the sabbaths, they come unto the sepulchre, at the rising of the sun,
Matthew 28 Young's Literal Translation (YLT) And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulcher,
A man worked out exactly when he believed Jesus died. It would pretty much tally with a bible trivia question, that gave Jesus being born around 4AD(cannot remember exactly) Every so often there was a 'special' sabbath, that started one day earlier than the normal sabbath(Saturday) It would tally with 33 years after many believe Jesus was born. The point being, Jesus would then have died on the Thursady, not Friday, allowing for the three days and three nights
God and the Jews count the start of a day at sunset. Gen. 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
You traverse all these forums looking for something you can't even properly define. You are looking for idioms referring partial days to full days. That does exist, but it is not always used. I think when Christ said "Three days and three nights" it precludes those idioms. Why waste our time with you unclear probes?
Same topic different understandings as private interpretations (personal commentaries) .
How do you define three days in the heart of the earth if not according to Jonas. Three day in the belly of the Whale. Jonas suffered a living hell for three days as a direct parable with Christ. I think the real problem is defining hell as to suffering. Dead men cannot suffer let alone breath without spirit life .
Jonas describes the living sufferings of hell perfectly. It began on Thusday for Christ. Christ suffering unto death not dead (Christ cannot die) this began when entered the garden Gethsemane the work of His faith began to please the father in who Christ called out and was heard and delivered just as Jonas was heard and delivered . Again as the sign of Jonas
Jonah 2 King James Version (KJV)Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
The bible defines the word within.
God and the Jews count the start of a day at sunset. Gen. 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
You traverse all these forums looking for something you can't even properly define. You are looking for idioms referring partial days to full days. That does exist, but it is not always used. I think when Christ said "Three days and three nights" it precludes those idioms. Why waste our time with you unclear probes?
Seem clear to me. Heart of the earth... belly of the whale .Six of one a half a dozen of the another
Obviously you are ignorant about Israel today.
Today in Israel they hold to the day starting at sunset! I visited there several times for work. The hotel I stayed at was run by religious Jews. On Friday afternoon they would set up a big table with food for the Sabbath starting at sunset. When sunset arrives all food and other nonessential services were shut down until the next sunset.
Deade,
re: "God and the Jews count the start of a day at sunset."
Yes, that is one of the conditions for this topic.
re: "You traverse all these forums looking for something you can't even properly define."
I've defined it just fine. Why do you say I haven't?
re: " You are looking for idioms referring partial days to full days."
I'm not.
1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".
2. There are some who believe that a calendar day began and ended at sunset.
3. Of those there are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.
4. Of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).
5. A 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.
6. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, some of those mentioned above say that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language.
7. I simply asking for anyone who falls in that above group of believers to provide examples to support that belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.
re: "Why waste our time with you unclear probes?"
What is unclear about it? And how am I wasting your time? You're the one that decided to weigh in with your off topic comments.
re: "God and the Jews count the start of a day at sunset."
Yes, that is one of the conditions for this topic.
re: "You traverse all these forums looking for something you can't even properly define."
I've defined it just fine. Why do you say I haven't?
re: " You are looking for idioms referring partial days to full days."
I'm not.
1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".
2. There are some who believe that a calendar day began and ended at sunset.
3. Of those there are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.
4. Of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).
5. A 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.
6. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, some of those mentioned above say that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language.
7. I simply asking for anyone who falls in that above group of believers to provide examples to support that belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.
re: "Why waste our time with you unclear probes?"
What is unclear about it? And how am I wasting your time? You're the one that decided to weigh in with your off topic comments.