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sundown Saturday which was the start of the first day of the week.
Who is the unleavened bread? What did the feast represent and why did they feast?
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It's crucial to avoid the pitfall of confusing calendar days with actual days.
In the beginning, God defined Day as when the sun is up, and Night as
when the sun is down. (Gen 1:3-5, Gen 1:14-18)
In accordance with God, Jesus defined Day as no more than twelve hours
of sunlight. (John 11:9)
If you'll follow God and Jesus as fully qualified experts when it comes to
defining Day and Night, you will fare much better in your attempt to configure
a chronology of the Lord's burial and resurrection.
FYI: Days divided into twelve equal periods of sunlight were regulated by
what's known as temporal hours; which vary in length in accordance with
the time of year. There are times of the year at Jerusalem's latitude when
days on earth consist of less than 12 normal hours of daylight, and
sometimes more; but when Jesus was here; the official number of hours was
always 12 regardless.
I don't exactly know why the Jews of that era divided their days into twelve
equal periods of sunlight regardless of the seasons, but I suspect it was just
a convenient way to operate the government and conduct civil affairs;
including the Temple's activities (e.g. the daily morning and evening
sacrifices)
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I was the 7 day period during which the Hebrews had to eat unleavened bread when they where fleeing Egypt..
Someone new looking in may know of examples.
I presented the word of God. I presented the fact that the Jews of the day ADDED laws to God's laws that God never said. I presented scriptures where the God of the world says there are 12 hours in a day. I presented, based on what that same God said, that it is impossible for ANYONE to get a Fri. burial, and a Sun. morning raising, using what God tells us; "...Are there not twelve hours in the day?...".
I now present this....
Deut.8
[3] And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Matt.4
[4] But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
2 Tim.3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
God's word tells us that ALL of our doctrine is to come from one place; "...ALL scripture...", and that would be from Gen. thru Rev.
With that being said AND knowing God's word I also presented the question,
"Does it really matter how the Jews of Jesus day counted a day?"
Do we use the Jewish idiom of the day, or do we use, "... every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..." and "...All scripture..." for our doctrine?
Do you have any information asked for in the OP?
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Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase "x" days and "x"nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn’t include at least parts of the "x" days and at least parts of the "x" nights?
Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase "x" days and "x"nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn’t include at least parts of the "x" days and at least parts of the "x" nights?
Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase "x" days and "x"nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn’t include at least parts of the "x" days and at least parts of the "x" nights?
|Again.....do we go with what the Romans did...or do we go with what the one that will judge all of mankind says?
How many hours did Christ say there are in a day?
A reference for you all. Please let me know what you determine from this, thank you....
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (Was it a special Sabbath or the regular Sabbath?)
As far as I have learned, the weekly day of preparation would be Yom Sheshi, Friday until sundown.........please give me your counting, thanks again....
Simply mentioning that Wednesday evening was Thursday (you're right of course) solves so many problems, it's unbelievable. First, I have been trying to locate the year forever But there is no Thursday with a full moon anywhere in the range between 25 and 34 AD, the only possible years for Jesus to have been age 30 and dying 2-3 years later, even counting 7BC as a possible birthdate. But when I looked again, based on Wednesday night being Thursday, there it was, right at 27AD. (This uses the astro-calendar in the Online Bible Program. This fixes Jesus' birthdate at 7 or 6 BC, depending on whether the ministry was 2 or 3 years, in exact agreement with whether your 490 days is right. Finally a chronology that matches the astronomy that explains what could have been the star!
If one goes by Zechariah's temple service (based on the Chronicles order of service), Jesus was born at Tabernacles, give or take a few days. There are those who feel the Temple calendar is wrong, and the Dead Sea Scrolls calendar scroll is the one God intends. Their system places His birth at Passover. If your 490 days is correct, then suddenly Jesus was about 30 yr. old when He started, because, just after He celebrated Tabernacles 25AD for the last time as a "carpenter", He celebrated His birthday, got baptized by John, and spent 40 days in the desert. That starts His ministry on almost exactly the first of Kislev, and that's (if there was no intercalary month) 490 days. That chronology proves their whole system wrong, as I have suspected for quite some time. That just feels like the Jesus I know. He fulfilled every prophecy, so there could be no doubt about who He was.
Paul was martyred in 64, that's now 37 years after Jesus died. And now we can account for Paul's life better, as it took several years for him to get to the point where he would be known as a persecutor of Jews. I've always felt we needed about 5 more years than the traditions gave us.
But that means that every church tradition is wrong. Actually. I'm not surprised.
The trick with unleavened bread is rolling it out flat and punching holes in it.
My understanding (and I'm sure some will quickly make an attempt to correct me) is this:
The word "day" can mean only part of a day, Its context will usually make it clear if that's the case. However, when a number is used in conjunction with the word day, it means an actual 24 hr day.
Guess I'll have to correct you.
The Hebrew reckoning was very specific as to periods of the night and day.
The day was simply from dawn to sunset. And the night was from sunset to the next dawn.