The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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Gal 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

We are all one in Christ.

One law and one faith..

We are told we are grafted into the Jewish nation.. seeds of Abraham..
The new covenant is made with the house of Israel.. does the new covenant apply to you?
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

The law does not save us from sin in any way.. the law can not save.

But it can reveal the difference between sin and not sinning.
Not Murdering and not stealing are recognized as good laws to obey. Why not follow all the laws God Himself personally gave. All 10.
Why do you restrict the law to 10 commandments? There are 613. Not all apply to all people, but mostly they do. The problem with law is that they do nothing for relationship. You also end up with the same dilemma as the Israelites. Who decides what work is? Should hospitals close on Saturdays? Or Sundays if you do not observe the Saturday sabbath? Can you drive a car to church? What if you live miles away?

There are two laws that matter. Love God and love your neighbour. If you love your neighbour, you won't sleep with his wife, you won't steal from him, you will not slander him, you won't covet what he has and you do not. You won't make a false claim about him to the police.

If you love God, you will appreciate what He does for you, do as He asks without complaining.

Those who are born again have a new spirit where Jesus lives in the Person of His Holy Spirit. We need to learn to walk in the Spirit and follow the leading of the Spirit. God is happy with that.

As for me, my Bible says that the Law was put in charge of me to lead me to Christ. I came to Christ over 50 years ago. I now live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ. That takes all the pressure off me. I never think to myself, "Have I broken God's law today?" I know that sin is far more subtle than that. I can be perfect outwardly and still sin inwardly. Acts 15 lays out the place of the law for Gentiles.

Because I am born again, I don't want to sin because it goes against my new nature. I have not memorised the 10 commandments. My focus is on grace and truth that came through Lord Jesus.
 
Yes, Christ is seated in the heaven sanctuary, it still has God's law. Gods Testimony, what man will be judged by regardless if we accept this or not. James2:11 Rev11:18-19

The 10 commandments in the ark were a type of the righteousness within Christ. Once we have his righteousness and the spirit to walk in it, there is no need for the 10 commandments.
 
this will explain why there are 45,000
You ignore God's word. Denominations are not the church. Perfect doctrine is not the qualification to enter heaven. And for sure you are not qualified to judge who is born again and who is not. 45,000 denominations is 44,999 too many. But that is because Christians are governed by intellect and opinions instead of the Spirit. God knows that. Lord Jesus is building His church in spite of the many flaws and imperfections of His people. All who are born again are precious to Lord Jesus. That is true even when there are doctrinal disagreements. You don't have to like it. it is the way it is.
 
If you had to choose between resting on Sunday or resting on the 7th day Saturday, which day would you keep as the day of rest.

I know many believe that every day and no day is to be kept..

But God said REMEMBER THE SABBATH day.

The 10 commandments are God's commandments today and you are forgetting the sabbath,

forgetting the 4th commandment is transgressing the law.

No place in the bible does God say forgett the 4th commandment or that the sabbath day Is no longer holy.

Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Blessed and sanctified. God can remove His blessing but no word is spoken of this in the whole Bible.
Read Acts 15. I could not be more blessed and never have I kept the Saturday sabbath. Nearly 54 years now. The true sabbath rest is when believers cease from striving in their own, natural powers. For sure everyone needs a day off a week to be refreshed. That day is up to the individual, between him and the Lord.

I worked 16 hours a day for 3 weeks straight. When it was over, I slept for almost a day. Not a good idea but I had no choice. Did God condemn me? No. That's the difference between law and grace.
 
The 10 commandments in the ark were a type of the righteousness within Christ. Once we have his righteousness and the spirit to walk in it, there is no need for the 10 commandments.
So no need to practice righteousness, no need to only worship God, no need to not keep His name holy, no need to not steal from our neighbor or lie to them, so break the least of these commandments instead of keeping them, the opposite of what Jesus taught Mat5:19-30. I guess we shall see how that works out.


1 John 2:29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.


1 John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
 
So no need to practice righteousness, no need to only worship God, no need to not keep His name holy, no need to not steal from our neighbor or lie to them, so break the least of these commandments instead of keeping them, the opposite of what Jesus taught Mat5:19-30. I guess we shall see how that works out.

We practice righteousness when we believe God and love others. There is no higher law than these 2 commandments that is able to condemn us
 
We practice righteousness when we believe God and love others. There is no higher law than these 2 commandments that is able to condemn us when we do them

So loving God with all our heart will lead someone to breaking what God asked us to keep.

Guess we have different ideas of what it means to love God with all our heart 1John5:3 John14:15 Exo20:6
 
Sadly this teaching of 9 commandments when God wrote Ten Commandments Deut4:13, forgetting the one commandment God said Remember, All Ten are under His mercy seat Exo25:21 because this is God's standard of righteousness Psa119:172 Isa 56:1-2 which is everlasting Isa 119:142. This idea of man trying to correct God as if God made a mistake on one of His commandments the one that comes with God's blessings Exo20:11 and sanctification Gen2:3 Eze20:12 I believe is really sending a wrong message to God, just as it did for the Isralites and why many could not cross over to their promise land.

Eze 20:15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.

We are told not to follow in their same path of disobedience and rebellion Heb4:11 Heb3:7-19 as we also have to enter into ours

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
God did write the 10 commandments on stone and gave them to Moses for the Israelites under the old covenant of law. (Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 5:1-21) You need to stop conflating the old covenant with the new covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Colossians 2:16-17; Hebrews 8:13)

Your implication from your relentless broken record message is that YOU have sufficiently kept ALL 10 commandments (and not simply 9) so you will surely be saved yet believers who find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Christ (Hebrews 4:9) in contrast with keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law have only kept 9 of the 10 commandments and will not be saved.

Keeping the sabbath day (instead of believing the gospel by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation) seems to be where your line in the sand is drawn on who will and won't be saved. :cautious:
 
dino, to be able to prove what you believe is incorrect would require many pages. I have learned over the years
to change a person mind even with sound facts and impeccable logic is almost impossible.

After Christ returns there will no longer be 40,000 Churches - only ONE.
then you will learn Truth.
What's the name over the door of your church?
 
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God claimed the Ten Commandments as His commandments Exo20:6 Deut4:13 not Moses. Moses did not even take credit for them in anyway way and he was there Exo32:16. It has God’s name not Moses in the first 4 commandments on how we are to love God. Moses name is not found in the Ten Commandments, this is a deception that God’s laws is Moses when its under God’s mercy seat, not Moses, its God personally written and spoken Testimony, Exo31:18 not Moses. When Jesus quoted from them,, He called them the commandment of God, not Moses Mat15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 not sure how many times it needs to be repeated for one to believe.
There are only two in the new covenant, not ten.
 
There are only two in the new covenant, not ten.
The summary does not delete the details.
This is the second greatest commencements- to love our neighbor all came from the Ten Commandments

Rom 13:9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” [a]“You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

The commandments to love God with all our heart, the greatest commandment comes from this same unit Deut6:5
 
God did write the 10 commandments on stone and gave them to Moses for the Israelites under the old covenant of law. (Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 5:1-21) You need to stop conflating the old covenant with the new covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Colossians 2:16-17; Hebrews 8:13)

Your implication from your relentless broken record message is that YOU have sufficiently kept ALL 10 commandments (and not simply 9) so you will surely be saved yet believers who find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Christ (Hebrews 4:9) in contrast with keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law have only kept 9 of the 10 commandments and will not be saved.

Keeping the sabbath day (instead of believing the gospel by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation) seems to be where your line in the sand is drawn on who will and won't be saved. :cautious:
Only God can define His laws and He did both written and spoken by God Himself Exo20:6 Deut4:13 Exo31:18 and while we are in the NC, the difference is the promises Heb8:6 and the location of God's laws, now written in the heart 2Cor3:3 Heb8:10 for those who don't rebel Rom8:7-8

Jesus in His own words said the Sabbath will not end Isa 56:6-7 Mat24:20-30 Isa66:22-23 my faith is in Him not what man changed Dan7:25 as if man can sanctify a day or sanctify themselves Isa66:17 instead of depending on God. Isa 56:2 Eze20:12
 
You ignore God's word. Denominations are not the church. Perfect doctrine is not the qualification to enter heaven. And for sure you are not qualified to judge who is born again and who is not. 45,000 denominations is 44,999 too many. But that is because Christians are governed by intellect and opinions instead of the Spirit. God knows that. Lord Jesus is building His church in spite of the many flaws and imperfections of His people. All who are born again are precious to Lord Jesus. That is true even when there are doctrinal disagreements. You don't have to like it. it is the way it is.



the Father is calling and bringing the Bride of Christ into perfection, into ONE with the Father and the Son,
There is ONE Body -- ONE Congregation -- in one accord, all speaking the same thing --- no division.

Being "Born From Above" occurs at the First Resurrection, That ONE Spirit is in me but I am not 'born' as yet.
 
Only God can define His laws and He did both written and spoken and while we are in the NC, the difference is the promises Heb8:6 and the location of God's laws, now written in the heart 2Cor3:3 Heb8:10 for those who don't rebel Rom8:7-8
For you the new covenant is the 10 commandments "repackaged" (minus everything else) from the old covenant of law.
 
For you the new covenant is the 10 commandments "repackaged" (minus everything else) from the old covenant of law.
There is nothing wrong with God's laws, what He does is forever Ecc3:14 He makes no mistakes, we do by not keeping them. They are perfect Psa19:7 and holy Rom7:12 the issue was the hardness of the heart, why the location changed of God's laws, written in the heart based on the promise of what He will do, we still have to cooperate with Him, not everyone does Heb8:7-8.