The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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Gideon, I was called by The Father in to the Body of Jesus Christ over 50 years ago, kicking and screaming, I despised "religion". My family was kind of "protestant. some relatives catholic, what little I knew I hated and I realized why -- it made no sense. Going to heaven, going to hell for eternal torture plus all the many many different churches all believing contrary doctrines, and How those that attended -- actually lived. I have seen more then most, the evil in what is called the "civilized world".
I knew zero of the Word, never opened a Bible, never attend any church except as a young child, by my teenage years, God never entered my mind.
I was call before I was 30, now after over 50 years and the tsunami of blessings My Father has poured upon me, not just health and healings not just family, not just the physical blessings, but most of all the deep understanding of HIS Perfect ONE Way of Righteousness and the understanding why and what The Family of God has planned for the over 100 billion that have lived and died to this point in time and for those to be born in the future.
I had little knowledge of what I came to view as 40,000 flavors, I came on this blog to observe, not to learn.
I have learned what the Word taught me is true, the human mind full of human nature can never come to under TRUTH, only the Father opening ones mind to HIS Truth, can Truth be known.
As I am old and have the time, I watch what is occurring around the globe. I have been told here on this blog and by others -- oh "they" have been saying Christ is coming for hundreds of years, it is years away.
I do not want my family to live into the unimaginable horror that is fast approaching, I ask my Father daily to sent Jesus Christ back as soon as possible to rule this evil world with His Rod of Iron, as that is what it will take to bring peace.
At the earliest that day is 3 1/2 years away.
If it could be sooner that would be wonderful, but I have been given to understand the Plan - 3 1/2 years is the earliest at this point in time.
If you had to choose between resting on Sunday or resting on the 7th day Saturday, which day would you keep as the day of rest.
I know many believe that every day and no day is to be kept..
But God said REMEMBER THE SABBATH day.
The 10 commandments are God's commandments today and you are forgetting the sabbath,
forgetting the 4th commandment is transgressing the law.
No place in the bible does God say forgett the 4th commandment or that the sabbath day Is no longer holy.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Blessed and sanctified. God can remove His blessing but no word is spoken of this in the whole Bible.
I know many believe that every day and no day is to be kept..
But God said REMEMBER THE SABBATH day.
The 10 commandments are God's commandments today and you are forgetting the sabbath,
forgetting the 4th commandment is transgressing the law.
No place in the bible does God say forgett the 4th commandment or that the sabbath day Is no longer holy.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Blessed and sanctified. God can remove His blessing but no word is spoken of this in the whole Bible.
You are mixing up the moral and cerimonial laws.
Mar 2:27-28
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
This is telling us to follow the sabbath law. It is made for mankind.
The pharisees had added many restrictions and burdens to the sabbath law and Jesus was revealing and keeping it the way God intended.
He is Lord of the sabbath.
The cerimonial laws were a type of the coming Messiah. They were nailed to the cross.. the sabbath is not a type of the coming Messiah.. the sabbath reminds us of creation and the power of God to save.
Amen!
That is what you strive for as we all should, but like you said, you will likely sin in the future just like the rest of us. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. We are not sinless and absolutely perfect, 100% of the time.
Jesus giving us rest from the guilt and slavery of sin does not mean that we will never sin again at all. We absolutely should have sin. Why would we not hate sin as children of God?
John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent (which is an intimate, experiential knowledge, found only in a relationship). The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him and not merely theoretical knowledge. Only genuine believers have this personal relationship with Jesus. Make believers do not. (Matthew 7:22-23)
What do you believe it means to "KEEP" the commandments? Perfectly obey them 100% of the time? How are Christians to keep the 4th commandment when it was given to the nation of Israel? (Exodus 31:12-17; 35:1-3; Leviticus 23:1-3; Deuteronomy 5:1-15) If sabbath day observances are still required today, then there is to be no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath day (Exodus 35:3) and every man must remain in his place on the sabbath day (Exodus 16:29) and there shall be no trading (Amos 8:5) and no marketing. (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19)
If keeping the sabbath day is still in effect today, then why don't Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the Lord has commanded? How can someone keep a certain law when they only keep part of it? If the sabbath day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people. Now who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church or perhaps the government? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the old covenant of law, no Sabbatarian today can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.
It's not like when we sin that we accidently fall into a pit called sin. We know sin is wrong, yet we still have our weak moments. As Christians we are all to aim to never sin again, just like an NFL football team aims to never have any penalties during the NFL season yet has that ever happened? Are any of us sinless and absolutely perfect, 100% of the time, exactly like Jesus? Let me know when you have arrived.
Zechariah 4:8 - Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.
Yet you already said you will likely sin in the future. That is not overcoming the power of sin and perfectly obeying. We are overcomers by faith and not by sinless perfection. 1 John 5:4 - For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
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Explaining away Colossians 2:16-17 to mean ceremonial sabbaths only does not prove your argument. An unbiased reading of Colossians 2:16 shows that Paul is not merely talking about "ceremonial sabbaths" here as SDA's try to argue.
Paul's reasoning here, "Let no one judge you regarding a,
festival - yearly sabbaths,
a new moon - monthly sabbaths,
or a sabbath day - weekly sabbath
When this passage is compared with Galatians 4:9 a connection in Paul's teaching is revealed: "But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years."
Verse 10 clearly states, "you observe...",
days (weekly sabbaths, corresponding to "sabbath days" in Colossians 2)
months (new moons, corresponding to "a new moon" in Colossians 2)
seasons (the 7 feasts, corresponding to "festivals" in Colossians 2)
and years (the sabbatical year and the 50th year of Jubilee)
Paul is clearing speaking about the observances of all Jewish holy days, including the weekly sabbath.
Paul refers to the yearly, monthly and weekly as representing the whole system. SDA's try to get around this, but yearly sabbaths were already referred to in Colossians 2:16 as "festivals". The "Year, Month, Week" pattern is well established in the Old Testament and Colossians 2:16 does not exclude the weekly sabbath.
Yearly, monthly, weekly pattern proves it includes the weekly sabbath
1 Chronicles 23:31 - Weekly sabbaths, monthly (new moons), yearly (fixed festivals)
2 Chronicles 2:4 - Weekly sabbaths, yearly (appointed feasts), monthly (new moons)
2 Chronicles 8:13 - Weekly sabbaths, yearly (annual feasts), monthly (new moons)
2 Chronicles 31:3 - Weekly sabbaths, yearly (fixed festivals), monthly (new moons)
Nehemiah 10:33 - Weekly sabbaths, yearly (appointed times), monthly (new moon)
Isaiah 1:13-14 - Weekly sabbaths, yearly (appointed feasts), monthly (new moon)
Ezekiel 45:17 - Monthly (new moons), weekly (sabbaths), yearly (appointed feasts)
Ezekiel 46:1-11 - Weekly (sabbaths), monthly (new moons), yearly (appointed feasts)
Hosea 2:11 - Yearly (festal assemblies), monthly (new moons), weekly (sabbaths)
Galatians 4:10 - Years, months, days
Colossians 2:16 - Festival, new moon, Sabbath day
These verses below based on your eisegesis do not show the opposite.
The Greek word for Sabbath in Colossians 2:16 is the same root word used in Exodus 20:8.
Jesus said this in rebuke to the Pharisees had turned the sabbath into a burden by adding restrictions beyond what God’s law said. The disciples had not broken God’s law, they merely violated the Pharisees’ own legalistic, interpretation of the law.
The Lord's Day - Revelation 1:10 ... The First Day!
Why is there no command in the New Testament for Christians to keep the weekly sabbath day holy? Breaking the sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), so why is it not condemned in the New Testament? Various passages in the New Testament list numerous types of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Revelation 21:8 & 22:15), but none of those lists ever mention Sabbath-breakers. Why is that?
Believers/Christians find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:9) in contrast with trying to find their rest in keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law. (Exodus 31:16-17; 35:1-3; Deuteronomy 5:15)[/QUOTE]
The four things the Jerusalem council mentioned in Acts 15 were not temporary synagogue rules. They match God’s eternal standards that never change. God calls these sins serious because they break His commandments and offend His holiness.
God never accepts idols. He said, “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:3). This is repeated many times because God is jealous for His people. He said, “For the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God” (Exodus 34:14). Jesus also confirmed this when He said we must worship only God and serve only Him (Matthew 4:10). Any form of idolatry — even being near it or eating food connected with it — pulls the heart away from the true God.
The eating of blood was also forbidden long before Moses. God said to Noah, “But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood” (Genesis 9:4). This was given to all nations. Later in the law, God repeated, “You shall not eat any blood” (Leviticus 17:10). The reason is that “the life of the flesh is in the blood.” Treating this lightly is a grave sin.
Meat offered to idols is also very serious because it turns the heart toward false gods. God told Israel never to mix His worship with the practices of the nations. The disciples confirmed this command again in Acts 21:25, showing it was not temporary or tied to synagogue life.
Sexual immorality is always condemned. Jesus said that evil things, including “adulteries” and “fornications,” come from the heart and defile a person (Mark 7:21–23). God said from the beginning that sexual sin destroys both the body and the soul. The Old Testament shows again and again how God judged this sin.
All four commands from the council match the commandments: loyalty to God, purity, respect for life, and holiness. These are not man-made customs. They reflect God’s own character. He does not change. What He calls sin remains sin forever. He cannot accept other gods because there are no other gods, only lies that lead people away from Him. He said, “I am the Lord, that is My name; and My glory I will not give to another” (Isaiah 42:8).
This is why God ended His words with a call to His people to match His character: “Be holy, for I am holy” (Leviticus 11:44).
No they do not. A person can break 3 of them without incurring guilt if he does so in faith. Jesus said so and Paul said so
The law on our heart and mind is the love of the Spirit, not the law of the letter. This is why Paul tells us that the new covenant is a covenant of the Spirit, and not of the letter.
2 Corinthians 3:6 -who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory.
Please explain to us exactly how you keep the 4th commandment from the old covenant of law. (Exodus 20:8) I see how the Israelites kept it (Exodus 16:23; 31:12-17; 35:1-3; Deuteronomy 5:1-15; Numbers 15:32-36) with all the rules and regulations, along with consequences for not keeping it, including death.
Before I would believe the 7th day Sabbath is no longer Holy time, I must read the Father or Jesus Christ stating clearly in the WORD, THEY have removed or changed that day as Their HOLY time.
and there is no record of the 4th Commandment being removed from the Ten.
It is fact, Rome changed the 7th day to sunday, they have admitted to it for centuries .
dino; explain, I have not one clue how your mind works -- and you are hardly ever clear. You want me to guess your point.
If the spirit of the law is greater than the letter, than how can the letter be broken. Jesus gave examples of what the spirit of the law looked like- lust in the heart but if one did not have that, the outcome would be thou shalt not commit adultery would be kept, not broken. Why Jesus said not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments. He never taught its okay to murder someone as long as you don't have anger in your heart. He taught He does not want us to even have thoughts that lead up to breaking these commandments and in doing so, one is sinning and will be in fear of Judgement Mat5:19-30
Sadly this teaching of 9 commandments when God wrote Ten Commandments Deut4:13, forgetting the one commandment God said Remember, All Ten are under His mercy seat Exo25:21 because this is God's standard of righteousness Psa119:172 Isa 56:1-2 which is everlasting Isa 119:142. This idea of man trying to correct God as if God made a mistake on one of His commandments the one that comes with God's blessings Exo20:11 and sanctification Gen2:3 Eze20:12 I believe is really sending a wrong message to God, just as it did for the Isralites and why many could not cross over to their promise land.
Eze 20:15 So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands, 16 because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols.
We are told not to follow in their same path of disobedience and rebellion Heb4:11 Heb3:7-19 as we also have to enter into ours
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who [a]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Because the spirit is lord over the letter. The law was put into place to designate and legally condemn unrighteousness. When people believe in Christ, then they are accounted as righteous and given the spirit of righteousness. So there is no need for the law anymore, apart from instruction and edification. Thus it is written:
Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Timothy 1:5-10
And now Christ is seated on the heavenly mercy seat, and we in him above that law.
I don't know why the significance of the blood applied on the mercy seat escapes them. It isn't there to give us superhuman sin fighting powers. It signifies forgiveness. It signifies judgment of the sinner, death, rendered and paid in full, applicable to all the law contained therein.
If we're given anything, it is the revelation(?) of real and lasting love of the Father, by the Son, through the Holy Spirit.