The Rapture

[heartofdavid]

I think you should be very carful who you yoke up with, not every denomination teaches sound biblical doctrine. Let me use my late friend as an example. For years I had tried to present to him the clear and simple teaching of the gospel of Christ and subsequently lead him to the Lord. Many times he would express interest and even at time approach me with questions concerning his salvation, but when the conversation got to the point of him believing and excepting Jesus Christ as his saviour, he just couldn't go through with it, he would say something like," well that's just not the way mommer-n-them done it, I need to speak in tongs and have the evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost before I can get save". For all those years the Charismatics had him believing in a works based salvation and he was on his way to a devils hell. July 4, 2017, I went see him around 7:00pm and found him lying on his carport in his underwear passed out.

After a few minutes I was able to get him up and into his house, where he wanted to talk about getting saved at which time I was finally and graciously able to lead to the Lord. The next day we took him to the hospital and after two day he passed away.
I believe he's in heaven now, however, I cant help think what blessings and a different life he could have experienced had he not been confused and miss-guided concerning salvation by false teachings. So yes, I think we should pick our associations carefully and expose false and demandable and deceitful teachings regardless of the denomination.

Yeah,most definitely watch who you hook up with.

Your post illustrates false deceit vividly.
falsely accusing charismatics of teaching the Baptism in/of the Holy Spirit as salvation.
We believe it as the second work of heaven,not salvation at all.
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH FRIEND. In fact,I believe that entire testimony is made up.
Too bizarre to be true.

Look up charismatic ministries (oral Roberts,James Robinson,Assembly of God,David Wilkerson,Pat Robertson,Etc.)
Take a look at STATEMENT OF FAITH.

Stop spreading lies.

 

[heartofdavid]

You ignore the simple fact that different Christians interpret sections of the Bible differently. They claim just like you it is written in Acts etc. There are those who believe charismatics are delusional and non Biblical because of their actions. What do you say to them? I personally believe God uses different methods to reach different people. We need to be accepting the different peripheral beliefs as long as they adhere to the Apostles Creed. That was created to define who was and wasn't a Christian. There were different beliefs that were being devisive and the Creed was created to be the test of Christianity and allowing peripheral beliefs to be issues we just agree to disagree on since they don't affect salvation. This happened in the early church and goes on today. As an adherent to Reformed Theology I have disagreements with most denominations including Catholic and Orthodox. But if they adhere to be Apostles Creed then they are my brothers and sisters in Christ.

You ignore the simple fact that different Christians interpret sections of the Bible differently. They claim just like you it is written in Acts etc. There are those who believe charismatics are delusional and non Biblical because of their actions. What do you say to them?

I will believe the bible. I will recieve the ENTIRE truth.
[FONT=&quot]13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke



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[FONT=&quot]Luke 11:13[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?


[FONT=&quot]John 1:33[/FONT]
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.


[FONT=&quot]John 7:39[/FONT]
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

[FONT=&quot]Acts 2:33[/FONT]
Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and heard


[FONT=&quot]Acts 4:31[/FONT]
And when they had prayed, the place where they had gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness.


[FONT=&quot]Acts 5:32[/FONT]
And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.”


[FONT=&quot]Acts 7:51[/FONT]
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.


[FONT=&quot]Acts 8:15[/FONT]
who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.


[FONT=&quot]Acts 8:17[/FONT]
Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the HolySpirit.


[FONT=&quot]Acts 8:19[/FONT]
saying, “Give this authority to me as well, so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”


[FONT=&quot]Acts 9:17[/FONT]
So Ananias departed and entered the house, and after laying his hands on him said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road by which you were coming, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”


[FONT=&quot]Acts 10:44[/FONT]
While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.45 All the [ah]circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, 47 “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.


[FONT=&quot]Acts 11:15[/FONT]
And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.




























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[vic1980]

I believe we see the tribulation judgments contained in Revelation's seals and trumpets, we do not see God's wrath contained in the bowls.

But that's just my understanding, which will now be endlessly attacked by others with different views.

If we all agreed in how thee event unfolds as Jesus taught them , there would be no endless quarrel , but standing on His Truth.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares,and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Shalom

 

[heartofdavid]

[video=youtube;sZq9wREI6NI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZq9wREI6NI[/video]

 

[heartofdavid]

If we all agreed in how thee event unfolds as Jesus taught them , there would be no endless quarrel , but standing on His Truth.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares,and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Shalom

That gathering is AFTER THE MILLINEUM.

You are on the wrong page friend.

The burning of non believers is at the GWT judgement.....lake of fire.


Mat 13;
[h=3]The Tares Explained[/h][FONT=&quot]36 Then He left the crowds and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the [t]tares of the field.” 37 And He said, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, 38 and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the [u]end of the age; and the reapers are angels. 40 So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the [v]end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom [w]all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, [x]let him hear.


IN THE RAPTURE,JESUS GATHERS. ( this is why we know there are several gatherings) [/FONT]

 

[vic1980]

Why would The Lord leave us a great testimony upon how the beast will arise after the 7th king , He prepared us in His word to stand in His truth , till the end.

When Rome gave it's authority to the Papacy , it continue to persecuted to death those who trusted Jesus Christ.

Why are you afraid of being persecuted for your faith in Jesus Christ ???

Christ come back only one more time , there is no hidden rapture. Every eye will see Him.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


Shalom

 

[heartofdavid]

Why would The Lord leave us a great testimony upon how the beast will arise after the 7th king , He prepared us in His word to stand in His truth , till the end.

When Rome gave it's authority to the Papacy , it continue to persecuted to death those who trusted Jesus Christ.

Why are you afraid of being persecuted for your faith in Jesus Christ ???

Christ come back only one more time , there is no hidden rapture. Every eye will see Him.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


Shalom

Rev 14 punches a huge hole in both the "no rapture" and the "nope,only one gathering" falseness.

But even Jesus used lot and noah concerning his return.
Both are pre judgement dynamics.

BTW, There is not one post trib rapture verse in the bible.

 

[WineRose]

Oooooo...did I just stumble across Not By Works 2.0?

 

[Donmech]

Yeah,most definitely watch who you hook up with.

Your post illustrates false deceit vividly.
falsely accusing charismatics of teaching the Baptism in/of the Holy Spirit as salvation.
We believe it as the second work of heaven,not salvation at all.
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH FRIEND. In fact,I believe that entire testimony is made up.
Too bizarre to be true.

Look up charismatic ministries (oral Roberts,James Robinson,Assembly of God,David Wilkerson,Pat Robertson,Etc.)
Take a look at STATEMENT OF FAITH.

Stop spreading lies.

Wow, Im sorry you believe that my story was made-up. To be honest I wish it was made up but I assure you it is true every word, I have no reason to lie. By the way the part about salvation was what my friend believed, and he spent his entire life as a Charismatic.

 

[Endoscopy]

I will believe the bible. I will recieve the ENTIRE truth.
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke




Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?


John 1:33
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.


John 7:39
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Acts 2:33
Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and heard


Acts 4:31
And when they had prayed, the place where they had gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness.


Acts 5:32
And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.”


Acts 7:51
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.


Acts 8:15
who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.


Acts 8:17
Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the HolySpirit.


Acts 8:19
saying, “Give this authority to me as well, so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”


Acts 9:17
So Ananias departed and entered the house, and after laying his hands on him said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road by which you were coming, has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”


Acts 10:44
While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.45 All the [ah]circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, 47 “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.


Acts 11:15
And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.

OK Dippidy Doo.
Why the large white space?

In the Bible those speaking in tongues were speaking in the language of the person's own language. However that isn't the case today. One person will speak in tongues and another will translate. The language is not a language spoken anywhere. So why is what is practiced today different? Why doesn't the Holy Spirit act the same for everybody for all times?

 

[OtherWay210]

2nicee I see you were banned for some reason ..

But to throw my two cents in, the rapture is not in the bible . Its just not something Christ taught concerning any aspect of the Tribulation of Satan .

 

[OtherWay210]

2 nicee I see you were banned for some reason ..

But to throw my two cents in, the rapture is not in the bible . Its just not something Christ taught concerning any aspect of the Tribulation of Satan .

 

[DiscipleDave]

Your ignorance of the word eschatology is amazing.

Are you saying that to offend, or are you saying it because you are amazed that people do not know what eschatology means?

You didn't bother to look it up.

If God has told me what is going to happen in the future, why would there be a need for me to look it up?

It is the study of the end times. Daniel, Revelation, and other scriptures in various books. It is a large field of study.

What then? if i have studied the major and minor prophets extensively, that it was all in vain because i did not know what it was called? Really? If God revealed to me things concerning Daniel, Revelation, Isaiah, and many other prophecies. What do i care what people of this generation CALL IT? Isn't having the knowledge better than what one is called because they are learning that knowledge?

A major problem is the symbolism in Daniel and Revelation.

Would it be a problem at all if God reveals to you what they are?

IF God tells me who the 144,000 actually are, and tells me all about them, why they are sealed, what their purpose is, tell me all about them. Why would i care about what people are Called who study about the 144,000 sealed. i know about the 144,000 and don't need to hear other peoples views, or theology, or ideas, or opinions on that matter, when God has told me about that matter.

God has told me what is going to happen in the future. Why then would i have a need to hear what others say is going to happen in the future, when God has already told me what is going to happen. Why would i need to understand or know what the word eschatology means?

There are sites dedicated to information about the subject.

i merely believe God and what He told me, why would i seek other information from people and not from God?

I pointed you to a site that has the four different end times views.

Oh, and your upset that i did not go and see each four different end time views? You are still not understanding what i am saying. If God has told me what is going to happen in the future, why on earth would i go to a site to see what they say is going to happen in the future? Now the only reason i can conceive doing such a thing, is to see what false doctrines they hold on to, which of the four different views lines up with what God told me. Other than that, i can't see going to that site to see the four different views of end times, when i already KNOW what is going to happen because it is what God told me.

You keep discussing the issue in ignorance that it is a large field of study with theologians for centuries creating the four different views.

No, i'm pretty sure i keep telling you that i KNOW the TRUTH concerning what is going to happen in the future, therefore it is not ignorance. For some reason though it seems important to you that i seek out the knowledge of the four different views of end time events given by people who are learned, scholars, and what have you. But you don't seem to understand what i have been saying. If i have knowledge from God about the end times, why would i have a need to go and learn about the four different views of end time events, Why?

That site explains the four different Biblical views about end times (eschatology). Go read that site and get educated on end times theology.

Again, you seem to not understand that i do not need to be educated on end time events, when i have been pretty clear that i know end time events because God told me. Is this one of those situations where Jesus says they have ears but do not hear?

You will find that you don't know as much as you think you do.

What i know is what God told me.

I did a lot of study on the subject and had classes in it.

i too have done a lot of study on end times event 30 years ago, all of dung compared to what God told me

Very murky due to the symbolism. Therefore the four different Biblical views.

Sorry, i really don't care what the views are of men. i only care what God told me. Now granted i will listen to the views of men and what they believe, when they present it to me. But for me to seek out the four different views of end times, i have no need. Because i know what is going to happen because God told me His view.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

DiscipleDave quote;

"Who do you think gathers the Church? So Jesus comes down from Heaven to Gather the Church then goes back to Heaven and comes back again, which is what YOU call the second coming. Is that what you are trying to teach? That Jesus coming back the THIRD time is actually the second coming? Seriously? The 2nd coming of Christ is when He comes to the Earth the second time, this second time is when He gathers up the Church. Where in all of Scriptures does it teach that Christ comes a third time? It doesn't, that is what YOU teach, based on your false interpretations of the Word of God, which interpretations does not belong to men, but is for God to reveal to whom God will reveal them to. lol. According to you the second coming of Jesus Christ is the third time He comes to Earth. Clearly you do not understand the TRUTH, and would rather rely on YOUR own interpretations then to believe someone who says God told them exactly what is going to happen. Sad indeed. Believe your own interpretation over what God told me is going to happen. Sad."

Well if you count rev 14,and 1 thes 4 you will have even more "comings"

There is absolutely nothing in Rev 14 or I Thes 4 that teaches, or even implies that there is a third coming. NONE.
Rev 14 is a description of His Second Coming.
I Thes 4 is also a description of His Second Coming.

Again, there are no Scriptures that teach a third coming. Nor is there any Scriptures that teach He goes back to Heaven after the Second Coming.

You have too much doctrine originating off of a cliche.

The doctrine i teach is what God told me.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

The 4 views on this site are nothing more that the opinions of men.
Non of them are correct. Like all commentaries, they only give the opinion of those writing them.
As we get closes to the end time, we can have a more complete understanding if we study the Scripture, current events, and pray for understanding. Commentaries are the last place to find the truth.

Amen, and so True.

Is it not written ask and you shall receive, believing you shall receive it? Yes
Is it not written that God reveals His secrets to His servants the prophets? Yes
Is it not written that they shall be sealed until the last days? Yes. This implies that someone in the last days will reveal what was sealed, yes?

God will reveal to whom God will reveal.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

I read and believe that at the last trump when Jesus appears on the clouds, those who sleep
in the dust will be taken up by His angels followed immediately by His angels taking up those
who are yet alive.

Is this the rapture? I do not find such a teaching named such in the Word..........thank you. God bless you.

That particular event that you are describing is what we call a Rapture.

The words Rapture, Trinity, Millionaire, Abortion, and Pizza are all not mentioned in the Bible. That does not mean they don't exist.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

I do not think awatukee believes what you are accusing him of.

If i accused him of this or that, it is because he said this or that, and i generally quote what is said that i am responding to.

I did not see any reference in your mapping of events to the marriage supper,or the bride,bridegroom dynamic.

That is because they are not on there. There are many things that are not on there. Now if you would like to have seen these events put on there, then you could ask me to include them.

So,you left out PURPOSE.

The Timeline is not about Purpose, but the mapping of events in relation to when they are going to happen, which indeed is the purpose of the Timeline.

I have to assume you do not know the purpose for the rapture.

Because i did not reveal the purpose of the flood, does that mean you will then assume i don't know the purpose of the flood?

You need to drop the "God showed me", and submit to the word.

Say to me that i need to submit to the Word, when you do not? What does that make you? i submit to the Word 100% Do you?

If i tell you the Truth that God showed me, if i were to say otherwise i would be a liar. If i say nothing then i deny giving Him the credit for that which i am teaching. Nay, i will give credit to where credit is deserved. If Gold tells me something, and i tell you what He told me, i will tell you Truthfully that it came from God and not from me, nor my own thinking, thoughts, studies, intellect, or what have you. If i would say otherwise then i will lie, and be found a liar, and according to Rev 21:8 NO Liar shall enter into Heaven. And i say to all as well, because many Christians seem to think they are above the Word of God, that if they lie, they are not a liar somehow. Anyone who continues to lie (Christian or no) will NOT enter into Heaven, because anyone who continues to lie, is going to be Judged a LIAR. And the Word of God is TRUE, NO LIAR will enter into Heaven, and it doesn't matter what you claim with your mouth "I'm Saved", "I'm covered by His Blood", "I have His righteousness", and many other such things they say. Anyone who continues to lie, will be found a LIAR and will not enter into Heaven. PERIOD!!! Therefore: Repent and stop lying.

You have SOME info . But you frame it as the whole picture,not knowing that rev 14 and 19 pretty much gut your mapping of events.

They do? How so? i have said over and over again, if anyone can show me any Scriptures which proves something in the Timeline as being unscriptural then show the verse. You say rev 14 and 19 does this. How so? How does anything in Rev 14 or Rev 19 shows something in the Timeline as being wrong?
More than likely it is your interpretations that is contrary to the Timeline, because you won't be able to find Scriptures that are.

Apparently you are also unaware that satan is loosed for the final battle after the 1000 k

It is apparent you did not look at the Timeline very good, because it plainly shows satan being released after the 1,000 years.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Dear brethren,

We have the bible,the word of GOD.

SO, if you claim ( " God showed me so' discussion over'), and the bible refutes it, you need more investigation into your theology

You say you have the Bible, but do you believe it?

Amo_3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto his servants the prophets.

Do you believe God reveals His secrets to prophets? yes or no?

Scriptures plainly teach if you ask for something of God, He WILL give it to you. So then if a person asks for God to show Him something, are you saying that He will not do so?

Are you saying that since we have the Bible, there is no need for God to speak to someone?

If Daniel was told to seal up the words, and seal up the book unto the time of the end (Dan 12:4). Does Scriptures reveal what they are, or are they revealed by God to us in the end. That being revealed not mentioned in the Bible.

If prophets no longer exist after John the Baptist, why then does the Apostle Paul teaching us how to set up the Church, tell us where the Prophets are to be set up. The Apostle Paul must not have gotten the memo that said there are no more Prophets after John the Baptist.

If God told me that the 144,000 that are sealed will be Children, should i disregard what God told me because that information is not in the Bible? lol. There are many things God told me conversation that are not found in the Bible. What is it to me, that you will not believe the Prophets in the last days if they do not prophesy about what is already in the Bible?

Is it not written that there is not enough books in the world that could contain all that Jesus said and done? What then? God can't tell anybody some of those things if they are not written in the Word of God?

God will reveal to whom He reveals.

God told me that one day the antichrist will be on TV saying "Where is your God now?" Which causes a great falling away from the Faith, and not just the Christian Faith but all faiths around the world. Now since what He told me is not found in the Word of God, does that make it not TRUE what God told me? Only to those who believe God does not speak to anybody any more. Strange Scriptures teach God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Strange that you think that God does not speak to people audibly today, when He audibly spoke to people yesterday. Is there somewhere in Scriptures that teach God stops speaking to people audibly? Or is that just what satan gets people to believe? Brilliant on satan's part. Get people to believe Prophets don't exist and God does not speak to people, so during the last days when God does reveal His secrets to His servants the Prophets by talking to them, who will believe them then? Yeah satan has prepared this generation pretty good, not to believe the Prophets when they do show up in the last days.

And God forbid if a Prophet today says he/she is prophet/ess. You see its OK to say your a preacher, or your a teacher, or your a healer, all gifts from the Holy Ghost, but get the gift of Prophesy from the Holy Ghost and say you are a prophet, watch the hypocrites pick up stones to stone you to death. It's OK to say your a Preacher, or a Teacher, or a Healer, but not ok to say your a Prophet. Yeah satan has conditioned this generation well, to NOT receive them when they do show up in the last days, which days we are in now.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[Ahwatukee]

Hello DiscipleDave,

If God told me that the 144,000 that are sealed will be Children, should i disregard what God told me because that information is not in the Bible? lol. There are many things God told me conversation that are not found in the Bible. What is it to me, that you will not believe the Prophets in the last days if they do not prophesy about what is already in the Bible?

The problem is that, what you are claiming is not stated in scripture. Therefore, it does not match up with the word of God and He is not going to contradict himself. That said, it would make no sense for it to be said of supposed children that "they did not defile themselves with women. It instead demonstrates that the 144,000 are adult males.

In regards to what you say God is telling you, it must be in agreement with his written word and that because we have no way of checking to see if what you are claiming is the truth. It would be by your word alone.

 

[Magenta]

Scriptures plainly teach if you ask for something of God, He WILL give it to you. So then if a person asks for God to show Him something, are you saying that He will not do so?

This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that
if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.​

1 John 5:14​

When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong
motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.​

James 4:3