The Lord had said to Abram

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GWH

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The context was and is about Abraham, yet I think it is for us all in belief, that do not take any of it for granted and misuse this amazing gift given
In other words, we that are Father's children given to us by Son's resurrection where the new life is at, We have the "Power"

Matthew 17:20
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Are we listening and thinking I can do anything?

Romans 15:17
I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.
Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

so, now we each see we have the Power, yet how shall we each use this power?

In Daddy's, PaPa's, Father's timing or our own thinking as we think we want or need?

Let's see, Moses in leaving Egypt and pharaoh chasing after them all.
Did Moses cause the fire to stop them or did God do that through Moses?
Did the Red Sea part by Moses or by Father through Moses, not known as Father yet then?
What I am saying is:
2 Peter 1:3
according as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Fear, anger, worry are distractions from the truth of God's love for us all to be new in these bodies presently lead by Father, the same as Jesus was during his entire ministry for us to see it, no fear, overcame death for us all, that is doe in son, Son said so in John 19:30. as, he went willing to die once for all flesh and blood (Heb. 10:10), then risen on the third day, where Daddy, gives new life in his risen Son for us to be willing to be led new by Daddy, Father, PaPa too, thank you (The Holy Spirit of truth)
Ready, willing go, this is between Father, Son and you personally above everything else first.
In God we are accepted, forgiven, Loved and sealed to see new, as we make mistakes along the way, we by God, remain forgiven by God, thanks to Son's done work first, so we can do new as agree to do, done by God through us at least me thank you
I no longer live Gal. 2:20, anyone else? Trust God, be new and not see it at first. Therefore continue as called to se it in Col 1 and 2, thank you
The immediate context was Abraham followed by Moses, but the eternal context was Christ and his church/spiritual Israel,
so those who bless Christians will be blessed, although political Israel may have a part to play in the end of world history.
 

Aaron56

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That's not what I meant. In God's opinion, what the people said was "good". You are saying it is "bad".
I never wrote that. Only that there were consequences for not coming near to Him as instructed. God can still use “good” especially when it preserves lives.

Good is one of those pesky words with many definitions like world, father, establish, etc. When I was in construction often a large piece of material would need to be handled by two or three guys. One guy would spot while the two others would work to put it in place. When the material met the line to gain, the spotter would say “That’s good” and the other two guys would stop moving it. Here, good meant “properly in place” not the opposite of evil. From that place we could continue to build.

The same was with God at Sinai.

“The law was added for transgressions”

Even so, God still continued to build with the Jews at Sinai. For their sake it was important to know that He could. So He called their starting position “good”. He never stopped building with the people of promise, though. That covenant, 430 years prior to Sinai, could not be replaced. From that covenant He established His House.
 
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I never wrote that. Only that there were consequences for not coming near to Him as instructed. God can still use “good” especially when it preserves lives.

Good is one of those pesky words with many definitions like world, father, establish, etc. When I was in construction often a large piece of material would need to be handled by two or three guys. One guy would spot while the two others would work to put it in place. When the material met the line to gain, the spotter would say “That’s good” and the other two guys would stop moving it. Here, good meant “properly in place” not the opposite of evil. From that place we could continue to build.

The same was with God at Sinai.

“The law was added for transgressions”

Even so, God still continued to build with the Jews at Sinai. For their sake it was important to know that He could. So He called their starting position “good”. He never stopped building with the people of promise, though. That covenant, 430 years prior to Sinai, could not be replaced. From that covenant He established His House.
You did not say that what the people said about only Moses speaking to God was "bad", but you that their refusal to come close to God was a "transgression", which I understand is something "bad".

The main part of the law, the Ten Commandments, was given before the people told Moses to speak to God by himself. So the law was not given because the people told Moses to speak to God by himself.

I understand Galatians 3:19 differently, that the transgressions refer to the sins in the world in general, and not specifically Israel's refusal to hear God directly. Also, that without the law, there would be no "transgression" of the law, but God wanted people to be able to know that their sins were "transgressions" of God's holy standard.

Romans 5:13 NKJV (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
 

Aaron56

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You did not say that what the people said about only Moses speaking to God was "bad", but you that their refusal to come close to God was a "transgression", which I understand is something "bad".

The main part of the law, the Ten Commandments, was given before the people told Moses to speak to God by himself. So the law was not given because the people told Moses to speak to God by himself.

I understand Galatians 3:19 differently, that the transgressions refer to the sins in the world in general, and not specifically Israel's refusal to hear God directly. Also, that without the law, there would be no "transgression" of the law, but God wanted people to be able to know that their sins were "transgressions" of God's holy standard.

Romans 5:13 NKJV (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
These are all accounts after the fact. It’s difficult to address these things when we deal with timelessness and time. What is true in eternity is always true but not seen until a set moment in time.

So even though God knew He would have to add the law, the reason for it was not seen until a certain time on Sinai. The law was added, not as a part of the original plan, but as a contingent.It aided the promise of the truth that the Son would come through the people of promise, so the law bounds and limits around the consequences of sin as well as a way to atone, moment by moment, for them.

The “holy standard” of the law was a pale substitute for Christ, who is the exclusive One accepted by God: there is no other way or half-measure to be counted acceptable by God’s judgement than by inclusion in Him. That’s why the promise at Sinai never vested in the Jews as a people: only by translocating into Him, by death, can anyone be considered “His own special people” or “a kingdom of priests”.