The Gun Thread

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Reliability is a big deal, revolvers are tops, just pull the trigger, it takes a positive, intentional action.

I agree on that if we are talking about our father's or grandfather's revolvers.
The previous generation of common purchases were high quality and some makes were known to take the best trigger jobs.

I taught firearms safety, basic use and marksmanship classes. I had to include the caution about decisions when buying handguns for self defense. In spite of cnc machines there's been an inconsistency in quality over recent years. We live in a time with more choices than any in history.

Example, a lady wanted to attend a gun show with a couple of her friends.
She was told by one guy to get an overpriced S&W .38 because it was Uber reliable. Another friend suggested a low use surplus German P6 that had extra mags a holster and acceptable trigger which could be improved considerably while maintaining reliability. She could rack the slide and pull the double action trigger without tremble or too much exertion. It cost less than the Smith. She was asked if she could get assistance talking down the over full retail tag.

She went with the S&W.
She went to the range and wanted to learn how it functions. She had no problem with others she tried, including the civilian version of the Sig. She enjoyed the ease of use, grip size, recoil impulse and trigger pull.
She was very accurate with it.

We spent a lot of time with her new Smith.
She had a lot of difficulty keeping the rounds on target and a number of reliability issues.
Those were probably issues that could be remedied with some work and practice. One thing of common note were the rough cylinders.
If she bought an older vintage of the exact same model, it would have been a joy for her to use.

Like a lot of things, vintage is sometimes better.
☕😊👍🏻

Tim Sundels on his 44 mag purchases.
 
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YES! Thank you for bringing this up, there are very easonabler prices out there, snubby Smith's for under $300.
38 Special can be loaded hotter than 357
blessings:)(y)
 
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YES! Thank you for bringing this up, there are very easonabler prices out there, snubby Smith's for under $300.
38 Special can be loaded hotter than 357
blessings:)(y)
Those are classics that I've pulled the trigger on some. They've been around for generations for a reason. I just was disappointed with that example that caused the lady extraction issues and hang ups you didn't previously see with the proven design. I'm no S&W armorer, but it seemed like it would take some polishing and perhaps a trigger job to get it up to the reliability and accuracy of what we are used to. I like those older Smiths and Colts. Even though I prefer classic SemiAutos, those classic DA revolvers bring a smile to my face.

Maybe I already said it, but Alex Jones had a gun collection and videos of him with Ted Nugent, 50 bmg, etc....choices.

On a show last spring he was getting death threats and one of his top staff was murdered. Do you remember that?
He said that with all his options, he drew his S&W 38 snub and publicly warned the bad guys that might be planning something. I was surprised, but that one you mentioned was his first choice.
 
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Charter Arms does ok, even make revolvers for rimless rounds without star clips, 380, 9mm, 45 ACP.
https://charterfirearms.com/
I had forgotten about Charter Arms.
I had no idea that they had such a big selection.
They have everything from 12 oz colored anodized aluminum Snubbies to skies the limit! Those with black nitride finish look great with the wood grips.
 
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The double spring design of the charter arms made for rimless ammo that eliminates moon clips is something I'm not familiar with. Sounds like a great idea.

I was just talking to another friend yesterday about this topic and Jerry's world record with a 9mm revolver.

 

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"Now Mr. Fancy Shooter, from the hip!:giggle::giggle:
Jerry is awesome, so was Bob Mundon.
 

shittim

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S&W had a 9mm revolvern that had a star wheel that held the rimless cartridges in, they gave up after a couple years as it was too expensive to produce, Charter Arms star wheel is available for just a few dollars if replacement is ever needed, they really figured it out.